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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42512

    #856
    Re: MLB The Show 17 Impressions

    Originally posted by citybythebay85
    I hope this has been posted already, but Harold Reynolds talks WAYYYYY too much. His rants go on FOR....EH....VER.

    SHUT UP HAROLD!!! Try ONE sentence at a time!!!
    There's a thread on commentary where I said the same thing. Not just Reynolds, and not just The Show. Every game needs smaller audio bits. If they can find better algorithms to merge these sentences together (including run-ons), then you can make for significantly less repetition, even if they largely have similar sentence frames that you hear a lot. I mean that's how real sports broadcasting works, anyway.
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    • FindingTim
      Rookie
      • Mar 2009
      • 386

      #857
      Re: MLB The Show 17 Impressions

      for the first year in many years, I didn't buy a baseball video game somewhere around Opening Day.

      So I'm a little late to The Show, if you will

      I've played about 15 games (mostly in franchise).

      A few things that stand out so far:


      -the graphics and lighting look exceptional (oddly, looks better on our Vizio than the more expensive LG TV in the living room)

      -hit types have expanded quite a bit. It's the biggest hit-type overhaul I can remember, aside from when MVP Baseball literally released an entire version of a game (before patches were around!) in which left-handed hitters could not hit home runs due to weird batted-ball physics- aside from an occasional liner to the first row

      -This year I am trying to exercise great discipline, and not repeatedly click 'x' to advance to each pitch. To my delight, I've been rewarded by a variety of displays or cut scenes that I wouldn't have known existed otherwise. It's like the baseball equivalent of not fast-traveling in Elder Scrolls.

      -Pitching with the 3-click meter is so darn sexy. I love taking some velo off, or saving the max velo for specific situations, I like how you can compensate on the final click if u had a rough first click, It just feels so good.

      -I want to make a shoutout to the creators of OS Realism Roster. No affiliation, just an incredibly ambitious roster set that, from what I can tell, is the best roster of the year (some of the 'overalls' seem off but the specific rankings are on point)

      -It seems like people have a love/hate relationship with Harold Reynolds. I lean more toward the love side. And so far I've enjoyed his comments, but it's way too soon to tell how limited/repetitive it all is. goofy note: In the early 2000's I met Harold and Orel Hershiser in a diner back east. If you can guess which city/town this happened, you win a virtual gold star. I was a kid and boldly asked for his autograph, though I'd never approach him now after seeing Sean Penn get harassed at a Brazilian food place in west LA. And now it just sounds like I'm bragging about people I've met which wasn't the original purpose of this at all.

      -I'm trying Dynamic difficulty this year, curious to see where the cpu places me. Hopefully it won't be like when I was 4th chair clarinet in middle school. Things seemed fine at the time, but years later, it became clear that they invented 4th chair just for me! and it was because I played clarinet like how a dog eats a muffin.

      -lastly, I am beyond grateful that re-starting a fantasy draft (if you hate the way it's going) is far quicker this year. I've spent hours of my life cancelling--> having it autosave--> exiting --> clicking 'new franchise' --> tweaking the settings for a new franchise--> choosing a team --> hoping to get a particular pick (it's a video game... I want my favorite guys!) --> not getting that pick --> advancing to autosave -->exiting-->clicking 'new franchise' again-->rinse and repeat... and don't get me started on all the time spent deleting those dozens of save files! where da 'group delete' option at!?
      ______________

      some issues that I'd hoped were fixed for this iteration, that weren't:

      -In fantasy draft, I'd say about 30% of teams select closers with their 1st or 2nd overall pick. This just seems unrealistic... though it's tough to complain since Trea Turner was still available after taking Arenado 3rd overall.

      -Could be my wifi, but the entire Diamond Dynasty interface is super laggy. Gameplay is fine, but the drop in quality (from single player) is enough to keep me playing franchise 90% of the time.

      -I still think swing followthroughs need work, and have for some time. There have been incremental improvements and mild increases in variety, but I'm still not seeing the gravity/force of a real followthrough, except on signature homer celebrations. Something about it still feels... mechanical. Same goes for some throws to first base, where arm slots and foot positioning go in some weird unnatural angles, not unlike how an inexperienced driver might overcorrect after clipping the lip on the outside edge of the road.

      -As you can see though, the praise far outweighs the complaints. To this point, this version has the feeling of one of those signature 'Shows' that works its way into your heart. And I haven't even played with Griffey yet!
      Last edited by FindingTim; 09-01-2017, 05:51 PM.

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      • JMD
        MVP
        • Feb 2008
        • 4456

        #858
        Re: MLB The Show 17 Impressions

        I'm still playing MLB 16 but I see that the 17 all star edition is on sale for $23.99 on the PS store. I might grab it.

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        • GoDucks1224
          MVP
          • Jul 2012
          • 2622

          #859
          Re: MLB The Show 17 Impressions

          Originally posted by JMD
          I'm still playing MLB 16 but I see that the 17 all star edition is on sale for $23.99 on the PS store. I might grab it.


          It's not my favorite Show, for sure. But it's absolutely worth that.

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          • half-fast
            Rookie
            • Sep 2011
            • 857

            #860
            Re: MLB The Show 17 Impressions

            Originally posted by JMD
            I'm still playing MLB 16 but I see that the 17 all star edition is on sale for $23.99 on the PS store. I might grab it.
            I did the same. Absolutely no regret on my part. Like the above poster, it's not my overall favourite Show, but it's moved forward in some good ways. This game actually makes me appreciate baseball even more.

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            • BucksInSix
              Banned
              • Apr 2016
              • 295

              #861
              Re: MLB The Show 17 Impressions

              It is September 24th and I am still seeing new hits, and ball flights. I love the organic feel. There are a few issues that I have no doubt SCEA will address for 18, but I am still in love with this iteration 6 months later. I also smile knowing 18 is going to be even better, and I can’t wait.

              I do hope they work on in game A.I. by giving managers tendency sliders, and players too. How epic would it be to have pitch tendency sliders, or chase tendency for a batter. Also, cleaning up uniforms, and possibly full scans ( a la 2K) since they have to adhere to the style guide.

              The future is bright, and I can’t wait for next year already! However, this game will most definitely hold me over all winter.


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              • actionhank
                MVP
                • Jan 2010
                • 1530

                #862
                Re: MLB The Show 17 Impressions

                Originally posted by Chunky_Cracker
                And this conversation is over as you've now proven yourself not worth wasting time on.
                His point was rudely made, but still a fair point.

                For something as relatively background as the PA announcer, there's not really any appreciable need to have multiple different ones with regards to the time it would take vs what it brings to the game.

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                • decga
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 2469

                  #863
                  Re: MLB The Show 17 Impressions

                  I must say this, I wish MLB would do the Intentional walk like MLBTS does it! Throw at least a pitch. It would at least 5% chance of not being automatic all depending on the situation.

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                  • actionhank
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1530

                    #864
                    Re: MLB The Show 17 Impressions

                    Originally posted by decga
                    I must say this, I wish MLB would do the Intentional walk like MLBTS does it! Throw at least a pitch. It would at least 5% chance of not being automatic all depending on the situation.
                    I may be in the minority, but I kinda like it the way it is. Why waste time on tossing the ball for a minuscule chance of something happening, when you could just say "Take your base" and get the game moving?

                    I know faster isn't always better, but for someone that likes to try and watch sporting events while still studying for certification at night, it's tough to make time to watch my favorite teams while still accomplishing anything away from the couch.

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                    • Blzer
                      Resident film pundit
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 42512

                      #865
                      Re: MLB The Show 17 Impressions

                      Originally posted by actionhank
                      I may be in the minority, but I kinda like it the way it is. Why waste time on tossing the ball for a minuscule chance of something happening, when you could just say "Take your base" and get the game moving?

                      I know faster isn't always better, but for someone that likes to try and watch sporting events while still studying for certification at night, it's tough to make time to watch my favorite teams while still accomplishing anything away from the couch.
                      1) Because they removed a legal action from the game. Might as well not have to touch all four bases on a home run.

                      2) Because that miniscule thing is still possible. Who said it had to be a wild pitch? There are so many other things that can (and have) happened on them, including balls in play, stolen bases, changed minds, dekes, pickoffs... and the occasional wild pitch or passed ball. Don't make rarity determine whether the play should be there.

                      3) Because it takes 35 seconds, and post-Bonds happens once or twice a game at most. Probably averages less than 1.0 a game. Sorry that you couldn't get that extra 35 seconds of studying.

                      4) Because it trickled down to high school softball for the upcoming season, where all of the problems in #2 happen so much more and it was very important that they didn't do that.

                      5) Because it didn't need to be ****ing changed. There are many other pace-of-play issues in the game, starting with replay, continuing with defensive conferences, and followed by between batter/between pitches time taken. This was not one of the issues.
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                      • RoyceDa59
                        Chillin
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 3830

                        #866
                        Re: MLB The Show 17 Impressions

                        Did they ever add any DLC to this game? Specifically for RttS, I remember it being mentioned before the release.

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                        • GoDucks1224
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 2622

                          #867
                          Re: MLB The Show 17 Impressions

                          Originally posted by Blzer
                          1) Because they removed a legal action from the game. Might as well not have to touch all four bases on a home run.

                          2) Because that miniscule thing is still possible. Who said it had to be a wild pitch? There are so many other things that can (and have) happened on them, including balls in play, stolen bases, changed minds, dekes, pickoffs... and the occasional wild pitch or passed ball. Don't make rarity determine whether the play should be there.

                          3) Because it takes 35 seconds, and post-Bonds happens once or twice a game at most. Probably averages less than 1.0 a game. Sorry that you couldn't get that extra 35 seconds of studying.

                          4) Because it trickled down to high school softball for the upcoming season, where all of the problems in #2 happen so much more and it was very important that they didn't do that.

                          5) Because it didn't need to be ****ing changed. There are many other pace-of-play issues in the game, starting with replay, continuing with defensive conferences, and followed by between batter/between pitches time taken. This was not one of the issues.


                          Just to follow up on this: There is an average of .67 intentional walks per game.

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                          • GoDucks1224
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 2622

                            #868
                            MLB The Show 17 Impressions

                            Oh wait, I just double checked. I was wrong. Last season there were 932 intentional walks in 2428 games. Which averages out to about .38 intentional walks per game. My bad, it’s significantly lower than I first posted. I must have gotten my numbers mixed.

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                            • NYJin2011tm
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 2760

                              #869
                              Re: MLB The Show 17 Impressions

                              A writer in the NY Post said the auto intentional walk saves 30 secs over 6 seasons lol.

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                              • DamnYanks2
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 20794

                                #870
                                Re: MLB The Show 17 Impressions

                                Originally posted by BucksInSix
                                It is September 24th and I am still seeing new hits, and ball flights. I love the organic feel. There are a few issues that I have no doubt SCEA will address for 18, but I am still in love with this iteration 6 months later. I also smile knowing 18 is going to be even better, and I can’t wait.

                                I do hope they work on in game A.I. by giving managers tendency sliders, and players too. How epic would it be to have pitch tendency sliders, or chase tendency for a batter. Also, cleaning up uniforms, and possibly full scans ( a la 2K) since they have to adhere to the style guide.

                                The future is bright, and I can’t wait for next year already! However, this game will most definitely hold me over all winter.


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                                Same, This is the one game I come back to over and over again. For me this game is about perfect.

                                I usually just play with the daily rosters. So maybe I dont notice any bugs. But I've had literally no issues.

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