MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[jdiaz891]

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He honestly doesn't have any value in that scenario. His defense has been deteriorating for the past few years and doesn't sound like anything has changed in your 'chise.

Add to the fact those are some pretty horrible offensive numbers his value is completely shot.

I guess your right no one wants to take a player like that especially if hes suppose to make 15 mill. So release i guess then. Thank you

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Thanks for the reply. Are you sure that the Yanks would need for me to take a contract to get Stanton? They have a lot of big money contracts coming off the book over the next 1-2 years. Plus, they're the New York Yankees and have a blank checkbook.

If Stanton's option doesn't gets picked up you are asking the Yankees to take on 11 years and $310 million dollars. So to get a good return you'll have to do something financially. Even if we are generous with Stanton and say he accumulates a 4 WAR average over the next 11 years, many of which will be in his decline, that's something like 44x$10 million - $310. (I'm using loose math. We have no idea what a win will be worth so far out.) So best case in the world he has $130 million in surplus value. But he was worth 27 wins over his first 7 seasons which averages out to just under 4 per season. So I think the most realistic scenario is that Stanton is worth his deal the first 6 years or so, but his last half of his contract he's an Albert Pujols level albatross.

Basically you're asking a lot to dump that much cash and to get a top-5 prospect in baseball and then some. That's a hard sell

[Mattchu12]

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It's that time of year ago, Yankees reacquiring Phil Hughes. His value has to be low right now with the injury and down year, but I'm still a homer. Would love to package him with John Ryan Murphy back to New York before the start of the season. Thoughts?

[MJDrocks]

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If Stanton's option doesn't gets picked up you are asking the Yankees to take on 11 years and $310 million dollars. So to get a good return you'll have to do something financially. Even if we are generous with Stanton and say he accumulates a 4 WAR average over the next 11 years, many of which will be in his decline, that's something like 44x$10 million - $310. (I'm using loose math. We have no idea what a win will be worth so far out.) So best case in the world he has $130 million in surplus value. But he was worth 27 wins over his first 7 seasons which averages out to just under 4 per season. So I think the most realistic scenario is that Stanton is worth his deal the first 6 years or so, but his last half of his contract he's an Albert Pujols level albatross.

Basically you're asking a lot to dump that much cash and to get a top-5 prospect in baseball and then some. That's a hard sell

Thanks for the insight on this. Don't you think with inflation that once we get to the back-end of his contract that it won't be nearly as bad as it looks right now though?

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Thanks for the insight on this. Don't you think with inflation that once we get to the back-end of his contract that it won't be nearly as bad as it looks right now though?

Id say inflation will help, but paying a guy around $30 million per year into his 30's will pretty much always look bad. Ben Zobrist is really good and got like $14 million per year for his mid to late 30's.

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[MrSerendipity]

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Here is what I'm looking at. Let me know how far off I am.

WAS Receives
Paul Goldschmidt
Ronnie Freeman

ARI Receives
Victor Robles
Erick Fedde
Carter Kieboom
Spencer Kieboom

CHC Receives
Zack Greinke
A.J. Pollock
Ivan Pineyro

ARI Receives
Jason Heyward
Ian Happ
Dylan Cease
Jeimer Candelario

Any thoughts on these? I'd like to push them through today. I think they're fair offers on both sides but if anyone disagrees I'd like to know. (only bumping this soon because the thread has been inactive for 12 hours)

[Qb]

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Pirates Franchise.

Looking to see what a trade moving Taillon would look like. Probably not the most realistic at the current time, but I find his pitching release to be glitchy, just can't used to it.

Very early in the season so selling/buying is not really in the equation i am open to all suggestions.

Thanks!

No, no, no, no, nooooooo, NO! Seriously though, no way the Bucs would move him, especially with G. Cole almost certain to move on as his arb years wind down.

I hear you on his windup being a little off, but the last patch said they adjusted arm actions for several pitchers -- didn't name Taillon, but worth checking out. If it's still wonky, maybe try another delivery. I haven't really looked for an alternate, but the other night I noticed Tom Milone's windup (not sure about stretch) looked similar to what JT does.

[milldaddy35]

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Rays Franchise here...

Out of contention in July, rest of division is just too good.


What would a fair haul for Evan Longoria?

And any idea of teams that would be willing to take him on?

[milldaddy35]

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It's that time of year ago, Yankees reacquiring Phil Hughes. His value has to be low right now with the injury and down year, but I'm still a homer. Would love to package him with John Ryan Murphy back to New York before the start of the season. Thoughts?

I think the Twins would be willing to move on from both for sure. JRM hasn't done anything of any value at either the MLB or AAA level with the Twins, although Hughes has been somewhat decent this year. I think the Twins would take 2 average prospects for Hughes, and a low ceiling prospect for JRM.

[jdiaz891]

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In my franchise I'm playing as the white soxs I'm currently leading my division by a few games but only because I've played bad teams lately . I'm looking to trade away the following players and would looking for fairness and if possible realism.

James shields 5-3 3.18 Era
Miguel Gonzalez 1-1 5.14 Era
David Robertson 17 saves 2.00 Era
Geovany Soto 10hrs 15 Rbis .252 avg
Jose Abreu 11 hrs 36 rbis .277 Avg
Todd Frazier 17 hrs 29 rbis .353 Avg


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[MrSerendipity]

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Rays Franchise here...

Out of contention in July, rest of division is just too good.


What would a fair haul for Evan Longoria?

And any idea of teams that would be willing to take him on?

We'll need a little more info. How is Longoria batting (avg, hr, rbi) and what does his WAR look like? Who is contending for a playoff at this point in the season? (Division Leaders, Wild Card Contenders) Of those teams, who isn't getting much production out of 3B?

Early thoughts on team who would be interested without any other information would be the Mets, Cardinals, Red Sox, Tigers and Giants.

With that said, there are a lot of caveats to consider. Boston is a difficult scenario as they're inner-division. The Tigers would have to be in serious contention and they're more likely looking to offload contracts than bring them on. The Giants situation depends on the production they're getting out of Nunez who is two years younger than Longoria and already a mid-tier 3rd baseman. That leaves you with the Cardinals, or more likely, the Mets. The Cardinals may not have the best pieces for that deal, although bringing in Longoria would help with their attempt to bring down the Cubs. Speaking of which, how does the NL Central look right now? Do they lead? Are they back by much?

That brings me to the Mets who I think are your best trade partner. They have a plethora of young prospects they could build a package around.

[jmcole33]

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Hey guys - so the Mets are approaching the all star break in 2018 and I'm currently 2.0 GB of the Marlins. Record is 47-28. I'm definitely "all in" this year after losing in the wildcard game last year. My bullpen is super shaky and I'm looking to add an arm.

I'm thinking Trevor Rosenthal of the Cardinals, who currently sit at 33-43 and 12.5 out of first and 9.5 out of the wildcard. They signed Kenley Jansen last offseason and Rosenthal is in their 8th inning role for a team that's not looking to make the playoffs.

His 2018 Stats - 30.0 IP | 2-0 | 12 BB | 35 SO | 2.70 ERA | 1.10 WHIP

In return, I'm thinking of giving up:

1B Dominic Smith: 72 ovr | B Potential | 22 Years old | AAA | ETA 2018
2017 MLB Stats: 247 AB | .275|.320|.462 | 12 HR | 40 RBI | 17 BB | 41 SO
2018 AAA Stats: 130 AB | .262|.359|.346 | 2 HR | 12 RBI | 20 BB | 26 SO

Dominic Smith is the #1 prospect within the Mets organization (according to me as objectively as possible. I'll admit I'm far from an expert). He was a big part of our wild card push during his September call up and earned himself a playoff spot. He was poised to be my starting first baseman this year, but we signed Eric Hosmer to a five year deal. With Hosmer blocking him, he's a prime candidate to be traded. Smith is a gap to gap hitter and has an excellent glove at first base. He projects as a gold glove winner and potential future all star.

3B/1B Jhoan Urena: 71 ovr | B Potential | 23 years old | AAA | ETA 2020
2018 AAA Stats: 288 AB | .253|.299|.427 | 11 HR | 34 RBI | 7 SB | 19 BB | 73 SO

Jhoan Urena is the #5 prospect within the Mets organization. He's a switch hitting third baseman, but can also play first in a bind. He bats better from the left side. He's got a good glove and a good arm from the hot corner. His ceiling is an every day third baseman who will get you 20 HR and bat .280, but I can see him turning into a utility infielder.

RF Steven Hendrickson: 67 ovr | B Potential | 20 Years old | AAA | 2021
2018 AAA Stats: 258 AB | .260|.332|.360 | 5 HR | 22 RBI | 19 SB | 26 BB | 60 SO

Steven Hendrickson is the #9 prospect within the Mets organization. He's got plus speed and has a gun for an arm, but needs to improve his ball tracking in the outfield. He lacks the ability to drive the ball but being only 20 he'll hopefully fill out with age. He projects as an every day leadoff hitter, but needs to see his defense and discipline at the plate improve before he gets to the majors.

What do you guys think? Do I need to throw something else in there to make the deal better? In my eyes, the Cardinals get back a potential future all star and two potential every day players, but again I'm not an expert so any thoughts are welcome

[PokerWarrior27]

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Hey guys - so the Mets are approaching the all star break in 2018 and I'm currently 2.0 GB of the Marlins. Record is 47-28. I'm definitely "all in" this year after losing in the wildcard game last year. My bullpen is super shaky and I'm looking to add an arm.

I'm thinking Trevor Rosenthal of the Cardinals, who currently sit at 33-43 and 12.5 out of first and 9.5 out of the wildcard. They signed Kelly Jansen last offseason and he's in their 8th inning role for a team that's not looking to make the playoffs.

His 2018 Stats - 30.0 IP | 2-0 | 12 BB | 35 SO | 2.70 ERA | 1.10 WHIP

In return, I'm thinking of giving up:

1B Dominic Smith: 72 ovr | B Potential | 22 Years old | AAA | ETA 2018
2017 MLB Stats: 247 AB | .275|.320|.462 | 12 HR | 40 RBI | 17 BB | 41 SO
2018 AAA Stats: 130 AB | .262|.359|.346 | 2 HR | 12 RBI | 20 BB | 26 SO

Dominic Smith is the #1 prospect within the Mets organization (according to me as objectively as possible. I'll admit I'm far from an expert). He was a big part of our wild card push during his September call up and earned himself a playoff spot. He was poised to be my starting first baseman this year, but we signed Eric Hosmer to a five year deal. With Hosmer blocking him, he's a prime candidate to be traded. Smith is a gap to gap hitter and has an excellent glove at first base. He projects as a gold glove winner and potential future all star.

3B/1B Jhoan Urena: 71 ovr | B Potential | 23 years old | AAA | ETA 2020
2018 AAA Stats: 288 AB | .253|.299|.427 | 11 HR | 34 RBI | 7 SB | 19 BB | 73 SO

Jhoan Urena is the #5 prospect within the Mets organization. He's a switch hitting third baseman, but can also play first in a bind. He bats better from the left side. He's got a good glove and a good arm from the hot corner. His ceiling is an every day third baseman who will get you 20 HR and bat .280, but I can see him turning into a utility infielder.

RF Steven Hendrickson: 67 ovr | B Potential | 20 Years old | AAA | 2021
2018 AAA Stats: 258 AB | .260|.332|.360 | 5 HR | 22 RBI | 19 SB | 26 BB | 60 SO

Steven Hendrickson is the #9 prospect within the Mets organization. He's got plus speed and has a gun for an arm, but needs to improve his ball tracking in the outfield. He lacks the ability to drive the ball but being only 20 he'll hopefully fill out with age. He projects as an every day leadoff hitter, but needs to see his defense and discipline at the plate improve before he gets to the majors.

What do you guys think? Do I need to throw something else in there to make the deal better? In my eyes, the Cardinals get back a potential future all star and two potential every day players, but again I'm not an expert so any thoughts are welcome

I honestly think this is a fair deal. Smith is a top notch prospect and Urena is not bad at all. And this is for a relief pitcher yeah I consider it to be fair for sure.

I am surprised you shelled out money on Hosmer when you had Smith.

[jmcole33]

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I honestly think this is a fair deal. Smith is a top notch prospect and Urena is not bad at all. And this is for a relief pitcher yeah I consider it to be fair for sure.

I am surprised you shelled out money on Hosmer when you had Smith.

I still go back and forth on if I made the right decision. Hosmer has been ripping the cover off the ball all year though, so that provides some solace. I just didn't feel that Smith put me over the top, and I'd rather win now with my rotation the way it is.

[redsox4evur]

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Thanks for the reply. Are you sure that the Yanks would need for me to take a contract to get Stanton? They have a lot of big money contracts coming off the book over the next 1-2 years. Plus, they're the New York Yankees and have a blank checkbook.

The Yankees don't have a blank checkbook anymore. For the last couple years they have been trying to work to get their contracts under the luxury tax. And I see them staying like that for awhile, especially with the new CBA that was approved.


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