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  • Powertoyourhead
    Banned
    • Apr 2016
    • 39

    #151
    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
    It's hard to suggest moves like this because there's so many moving pieces. You have to find a competing team that wants Tanaka for only 17 since he will opt out after the season. You probably need to just bite the bullet and use the farm the Yankees have. It's one of the 3 best in baseball, you already have the pieces.
    Or couldnt I just trade Tanaka and Gardner to the Indians like the Yankees did to the cubs last year for Bradley Zimmer, Mejia and Aiken?

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    • BigOscar
      MVP
      • May 2016
      • 2971

      #152
      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by brandonholmes
      Jays fan here, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Colby had a bit of a silly cult of personality here, but he's better than Melvin and likely wouldn't need a platoon with how right dominant we are. Even if he did, we could platoon him with Pearce, with Pearce shifting to 1st against RHP.
      Cheers, that's what I figured. I'm really bringing Upton back for sentimental value, looking at all the righties at Toronto it looked like a trade that would suit them

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      • GamecocksLaw17
        MVP
        • Jun 2015
        • 1503

        #153
        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Powertoyourhead
        Or couldnt I just trade Tanaka and Gardner to the Indians like the Yankees did to the cubs last year for Bradley Zimmer, Mejia and Aiken?
        You're asking a team with a $120 million dollar payroll to take on $35 million more for 2017 and part with 3 of their best prospects when you aren't willing to trade any of your own for Yelich?

        I mean maybe you could do that package but I don't really think it's something the Indians would want to do. I'm sure they'd rather take that $35 million and apply it to an extension for Lindor

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        • sink4ever
          MVP
          • Dec 2004
          • 1153

          #154
          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by kenp86
          Would Jose Iglesias to STL for Luke Weaver work? Or is that to much or to NYY for Bird and/or Dillon Tate
          Pretty much no way NYY gives that up for a guy to fill in for a month. Especially because they're not in win-now mode anyway.

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          • bobbyb9827
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            • Jun 2011
            • 96

            #155
            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

            Does a group of Mateo, Rutherford Williams and Albert Abreu work out for Sonny Gray?
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            • brandonholmes
              Rookie
              • May 2011
              • 105

              #156
              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by Powertoyourhead
              Or couldnt I just trade Tanaka and Gardner to the Indians like the Yankees did to the cubs last year for Bradley Zimmer, Mejia and Aiken?
              The Indians aren't the Cubs, for one. $35M is a third of their payroll. Add in the fact they already have Kluber, Carrasco etc and their need for Tanaka, said $35M dollar pitcher with half an elbow and an opt-out, just isn't there. I mean, it's your franchise, do what you want, but nobody in this thread is going to advocate you pushing out mediocte/average pieces for entire farm systems just so you don't have to trade your own excellent Prospects for all-stars.

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              • KSUowls
                All Star
                • Jul 2009
                • 5884

                #157
                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                I usually try to amass the best team possible in my offline franchise (finding whatever deal the cpu will accept, I don't play 30 team control) , but I want to be a little more realistic this year.

                With that said, I will have a braves franchise, and I kind of want to pull the trigger on one of the trade possibilities that was mentioned this off-season for Chris Archer. So the question is, what is a fair deal? I played around the osfm16 ported roster in the vault and the game accepted a trade of Aaron Blair and Matt Wisler. I feel like that is under valued for Archer, but how far off do you guys think that is?

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                • Powertoyourhead
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 39

                  #158
                  Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by brandonholmes
                  The Indians aren't the Cubs, for one. $35M is a third of their payroll. Add in the fact they already have Kluber, Carrasco etc and their need for Tanaka, said $35M dollar pitcher with half an elbow and an opt-out, just isn't there. I mean, it's your franchise, do what you want, but nobody in this thread is going to advocate you pushing out mediocte/average pieces for entire farm systems just so you don't have to trade your own excellent Prospects for all-stars.
                  Last I checked Tanaka is not a average pitcher. I could agree with the fact that the Indians are not the cubs and the money amount is large for them but the fact you say Tanaka is average makes me wonder. My question was what team could I trade a Tanaka and Gardner to that are in win now mode with the budget to do so and then flip those prospect and maybe one of my current for Yelich.

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                  • GamecocksLaw17
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 1503

                    #159
                    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by KSUowls
                    I usually try to amass the best team possible in my offline franchise (finding whatever deal the cpu will accept, I don't play 30 team control) , but I want to be a little more realistic this year.

                    With that said, I will have a braves franchise, and I kind of want to pull the trigger on one of the trade possibilities that was mentioned this off-season for Chris Archer. So the question is, what is a fair deal? I played around the osfm16 ported roster in the vault and the game accepted a trade of Aaron Blair and Matt Wisler. I feel like that is under valued for Archer, but how far off do you guys think that is?
                    Albies or plus Allard and Anderson would get you much closer to Archer. He's expensive to trade for. If you want to keep Albies you could switch him to Acuna but you'd also have to add another good prospect

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                    • Powertoyourhead
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                      • Apr 2016
                      • 39

                      #160
                      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Last I checked Tanaka is not a average pitcher and I could even Argue Gardner is the 7th best LF in the game so I wouldnt consider him AVG either but maybe above AVG at worst. I could agree with the fact that the Indians are not the cubs and the money amount is large for them but the fact you say Tanaka is average makes me wonder. My question was what team could I trade a Tanaka and Gardner to that are in win now mode with the budget to do so and then flip those prospect and maybe one of my current for Yelich

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                      • GamecocksLaw17
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 1503

                        #161
                        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Powertoyourhead
                        Last I checked Tanaka is not a average pitcher and I could even Argue Gardner is the 7th best LF in the game so I wouldnt consider him AVG either but maybe above AVG at worst. I could agree with the fact that the Indians are not the cubs and the money amount is large for them but the fact you say Tanaka is average makes me wonder. My question was what team could I trade a Tanaka and Gardner to that are in win now mode with the budget to do so and then flip those prospect and maybe one of my current for Yelich
                        It was more a point about how the Indians don't need him. They have Kluber, Carrasco, Salazar, Bauer, etc. Tanaka is a good pitcher but his lack of team control hurt. And LF is bad. Gardner was great in 2010 and 2011 but he isn't that player anymore. He's barely more valuable than his contract.

                        Here's the bigger problem. You're reluctant to trade any of your own elite prospects but you still want the best prospects from other teams for a package that the Marlins wouldn't take straight to for Yelich. Yelich is more valuable than one season of Tanaka and Gardner doesn't have the trade value that you think he has. You're going to have a hard time finding someone who signs off on your plan. But it is your chise and you can do as you wish.

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                        • The Left Shark
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 461

                          #162
                          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                          It was more a point about how the Indians don't need him. They have Kluber, Carrasco, Salazar, Bauer, etc. Tanaka is a good pitcher but his lack of team control hurt. And LF is bad. Gardner was great in 2010 and 2011 but he isn't that player anymore. He's barely more valuable than his contract.

                          Here's the bigger problem. You're reluctant to trade any of your own elite prospects but you still want the best prospects from other teams for a package that the Marlins wouldn't take straight to for Yelich. Yelich is more valuable than one season of Tanaka and Gardner doesn't have the trade value that you think he has. You're going to have a hard time finding someone who signs off on your plan. But it is your chise and you can do as you wish.
                          Can he even opt-out in this game? In the roster set he uses, he might just have whatever years are left on his contract without the opt-out. I do agree with mostly everything you are saying though.

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                          • kenp86
                            MVP
                            • May 2008
                            • 2979

                            #163
                            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Ad ive mentioned before, im controlling 12 teams (2 from each division). AL Central i had a struggle between Twins and Tigers. With me having to keep JV and Miggy and the iggy trade to the yanks a bad idea, the decision is now over. Going with twins along with the sox.

                            That being said, what can i get for perkins, santana and hughes?
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                            • Powertoyourhead
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 39

                              #164
                              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                              It was more a point about how the Indians don't need him. They have Kluber, Carrasco, Salazar, Bauer, etc. Tanaka is a good pitcher but his lack of team control hurt. And LF is bad. Gardner was great in 2010 and 2011 but he isn't that player anymore. He's barely more valuable than his contract.

                              Here's the bigger problem. You're reluctant to trade any of your own elite prospects but you still want the best prospects from other teams for a package that the Marlins wouldn't take straight to for Yelich. Yelich is more valuable than one season of Tanaka and Gardner doesn't have the trade value that you think he has. You're going to have a hard time finding someone who signs off on your plan. But it is your chise and you can do as you wish.
                              I am just trying to have logical trades hence why I am on here for the first year since playing the games for a few years now. I am willing to give up a prospect of mine currently but i would also like to trade Tanaka and Gardner for some value to help pull off the Yelich trade. I do understand why Yelich is so valuable and After proposing the Indians trade I did realize the Indians are not typically huge spenders so thats why i was curious to know is there a team out there that could help me pull off Yelich even if it is a three team trade.

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                              • GamecocksLaw17
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 1503

                                #165
                                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by The Left Shark
                                Can he even opt-out in this game? In the roster set he uses, he might just have whatever years are left on his contract without the opt-out. I do agree with mostly everything you are saying though.
                                Well Tanaka has a full no trade clause and if he were traded that would be asking the Indians to take on the remaining $89 million on his deal which would be one of if not the biggest contract the Indians have ever had.

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