MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[GR5Noles]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Any feedback? Again, I'm the Yankees and just past the All-Star break. Like real life, my bullpen has really been hurting me lately and Chad Green is on the DL for the next month or so.


Yankees Get: Brad Hand (RP)
Padres Get: Jorge Mateo (SS/OF), Domingo German (SP)


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Yankees Get: Juan Nicasio (RP), Jose Osuna (LF)
Pirates Get: Jorge Mateo (SS/OF), Evan Rutskyj (RP)

Yankees Get: Juan Nicasio (RP)
Pirates Get: Dante Bichette Jr. (3B), Johnny Barbato (RP, who was traded to Pittsburgh in real life anyway)

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Yankees Get: Addison Reed (RP)
Mets Get: Jorge Mateo (SS/OF), Mason Williams (CF)

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Yankees Get: Ryan Madson (RP)
A's Get: Mason Williams (CF), Nick Solak (2B)

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The Rockies also sent me a proposal:

Yankees Get: Ryan McMahon (3B)
Rockies Get: Billy McKinney (RF), Kellin Deglan (C), Bryan Mitchell (RP)

[rtwilli4]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Hey guys I am in the middle of June 2017 with my Braves franchise and am wanting to trade of some of my vets. I am currently 7 games out of the east.

Here are the guys I am looking to deal. What is a realistic return?



Jamie Garcia - 82 ovr, 2.54 era

Matt Adams - 80 ovr, .302 avg, 15 hrs

Brandon Phillips - 78 ovr, .270 avg, 5 hrs

Adonis Garcia - 78 ovr, .278, 10 hrs

Nick Markakis - 78 ovr, .287, 8 hrs

Jim Johnson - 79 ovr, 1.5 era with 15 saves



I have been offered a few deals:



Trade 1:

Indians get Nick Markakis

Braves get William Benson - 18y o, C rated OF



Indians are in first and in desperate need on RF help.



Trade 2:

Astros get Jamie Garcia, Matt Adams and Jim Johnson.

Braves get Kyle Tucker (20 yo, B rated OF), Colin Moran (20 yo, B rated 3B) and another B rated SP.



Houston is 5 GB in their division. Charlie Morton the #5 in their rotation currently has a 6.00 era



Trade 3:

Yankees get Jamie Garcia, Matt Adams and Adonis Garcia.

Braves get Clint Frazier (A rated OF) and Dustin Fowler (B rated OF).



Yankees are in first. But Chase Headley is batting .235 at 3B, Their fifth start is Jon Niese and Greg Bird is hurt.



I feel like Trade 2 is fair and trade 3 is a overpay by the Yankees.

Gamecocks is right, but the game is different than real life.

In the game Jaime Garcia is lights out and durable. He holds more value in The Show than he does IRL.

I saw similar performance from him and traded him to Seattle for Andrew Moore and a C potential outfielder. Nothing special but maybe more than the Mariners would pay IRL.

Jim Johnson only gets you a 22-23 y/o C prospect but he's still worth trading... anyone can close for the Braves in 2018.

Why is Matt Adams playing? You're obviously not following real life MLB transactions...

Anyways the Yankees (and other teams) would have an interest in him, but again, just C prospects. It needs to be a team who wants to platoon him.

I kept everyone else. They're worth more to me on the field than on the trading block. Called up Albies in August and he's starting at second with Philips at third. The rest of the farm is developing nicely because they aren't being rushed.
















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[GR5Noles]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

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Any feedback? Again, I'm the Yankees and just past the All-Star break. Like real life, my bullpen has really been hurting me lately and Chad Green is on the DL for the next month or so.


Yankees Get: Brad Hand (RP)
Padres Get: Jorge Mateo (SS/OF), Domingo German (SP)


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Yankees Get: Juan Nicasio (RP), Jose Osuna (LF)
Pirates Get: Jorge Mateo (SS/OF), Evan Rutskyj (RP)

Yankees Get: Juan Nicasio (RP)
Pirates Get: Dante Bichette Jr. (3B), Johnny Barbato (RP, who was traded to Pittsburgh in real life anyway)

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Yankees Get: Addison Reed (RP)
Mets Get: Jorge Mateo (SS/OF), Mason Williams (CF)

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Yankees Get: Ryan Madson (RP)
A's Get: Mason Williams (CF), Nick Solak (2B)

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The Rockies also sent me a proposal:

Yankees Get: Ryan McMahon (3B)
Rockies Get: Billy McKinney (RF), Kellin Deglan (C), Bryan Mitchell (RP)

[TheLad510]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Would you guys prefer a package around Eloy Jimenez (Cubs) Ian Happ (Cubs) or Clint Frazier (NYY) for Sonny Gray

[GamecocksLaw17]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

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I like the Mateo package for Hand. Padres called about Torres, but settle for Mateo as their future at SS

[DarionC14]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Hey guys was wondering what it would take to bring Justin bour to the Yankees? Also out of curiosity has anyone gone like 2-3 years into franchise and seen legitimate growth with prospects turning into serviceable players? guys like Rosario, Torres, Jimenez? Or the lower rated guys like vlad jr or Blake Rutherford? Probably only gonna play 3 years so just trying to gauge if non elite prospects or even any are worth keeping. thanks.

[dustyb87]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Adams is currently playing first base while Freddie is playing third base. Just like the Braves are currently doing. I want to trade Adams so I can move Freddie back to first and call up Rio Ruiz who is raking in AAA and will play better defense.

I know the game doesn't value prospects as much as organizations do in real life. But what is a realistic return for these guys? Adams hitting .300 with 15 hrs I would think should bring back (1) B and (1) C prospect. Especially since he has 1.5 years of control left. While Markakis hitting .278 with 8 hrs and 1.5 years left on his deal should be worth a C prospect in my opinion. Set me straight if I am wrong. The only player I am really unsure of is Jamie Garcia. Yes he is an injury risk but any pitcher with a 2.5 era is going to be worth a ton at the deadline to someone.

[GamecocksLaw17]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Adams is currently playing first base while Freddie is playing third base. Just like the Braves are currently doing. I want to trade Adams so I can move Freddie back to first and call up Rio Ruiz who is raking in AAA and will play better defense.

I know the game doesn't value prospects as much as organizations do in real life. But what is a realistic return for these guys? Adams hitting .300 with 15 hrs I would think should bring back (1) B and (1) C prospect. Especially since he has 1.5 years of control left. While Markakis hitting .278 with 8 hrs and 1.5 years left on his deal should be worth a C prospect in my opinion. Set me straight if I am wrong. The only player I am really unsure of is Jamie Garcia. Yes he is an injury risk but any pitcher with a 2.5 era is going to be worth a ton at the deadline to someone.

The Braves got Adams for a fringe non-prospect. Why should another team give up a B and a C? Adams isn't very good and his trade value will reflect that. Sure he might have increased his value a touch maybe up to one C+ guy but there's no reason to give up a good prospect for a 1B only who has a terrible history against LHP

I know the first complaint will be that this is a game not real life, but real life Matt Adams is batting .292 with 13 HRs and game Matt Adams is batting .300 with 15 HRs. The difference is negligible, and that leads me to believe the difference in his real life value and video game value is also negligible

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[adamj2281]

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The Braves got Adams for a fringe non-prospect. Why should another team give up a B and a C? Adams isn't very good and his trade value will reflect that. Sure he might have increased his value a touch maybe up to one C+ guy but there's no reason to give up a good prospect for a 1B only who has a terrible history against LHP

I know the first complaint will be that this is a game not real life, but real life Matt Adams is batting .292 with 13 HRs and game Matt Adams is batting .300 with 15 HRs. The difference is negligible, and that leads me to believe the difference in his real life value and video game value is also negligible

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Agreed, and I looked at your other trades or similar scenarios, and that's with Jim Johnson being lights out - 1.5 ERA, 25 SV, and Jamie Garcia the same - around 3.00 ERA and the best pitcher on the staff.

They each are worth a C prospect at most even given those stats. Now, that's not to say that IRL Coppy won't turn Brandon Phillips, Matt Adams, Garcia and/or Markakis into some sort of asset - but look for something in the C range with some upside to be fair.

I'm debating right now a trade with the Rockies - they are right in the NL West race and need SP:

Rockies get:
Julio Teheran (Very similar stats to real life in 2nd week in July)
Jim Johnson (they need bullpen help, he has a 1.55 ERA and 25 SV)

Braves get:
Brendan Rodgers

Rodgers moves to 3rd in 2018.

[GamecocksLaw17]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Agreed, and I looked at your other trades or similar scenarios, and that's with Jim Johnson being lights out - 1.5 ERA, 25 SV, and Jamie Garcia the same - around 3.00 ERA and the best pitcher on the staff.

They each are worth a C prospect at most even given those stats. Now, that's not to say that IRL Coppy won't turn Brandon Phillips, Matt Adams, Garcia and/or Markakis into some sort of asset - but look for something in the C range with some upside to be fair.

I'm debating right now a trade with the Rockies - they are right in the NL West race and need SP:

Rockies get:
Julio Teheran (Very similar stats to real life in 2nd week in July)
Jim Johnson (they need bullpen help, he has a 1.55 ERA and 25 SV)

Braves get:
Brendan Rodgers

Rodgers moves to 3rd in 2018.

If Teheran is pitching like real life he comes no where near getting Rodgers

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[rtwilli4]

MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Adams is currently playing first base while Freddie is playing third base. Just like the Braves are currently doing. I want to trade Adams so I can move Freddie back to first and call up Rio Ruiz who is raking in AAA and will play better defense.



I know the game doesn't value prospects as much as organizations do in real life. But what is a realistic return for these guys? Adams hitting .300 with 15 hrs I would think should bring back (1) B and (1) C prospect. Especially since he has 1.5 years of control left. While Markakis hitting .278 with 8 hrs and 1.5 years left on his deal should be worth a C prospect in my opinion. Set me straight if I am wrong. The only player I am really unsure of is Jamie Garcia. Yes he is an injury risk but any pitcher with a 2.5 era is going to be worth a ton at the deadline to someone.

You saw my answer above right? I was pretty clear on my valuations of Garcia and Adams. I feel like the Garcia trade I mentioned is more than fair.

Remember, you've only got 60ish minor leaguers to work with in the game. IRL there are more like 120. We throw around the term "prospect" to often. Most minor leaguers are not prospects AT ALL!

Any MLB starter (Markakis included) is worth a 22-23 year old C potential guy in The Show. If you can find a team that legitimately needs him in 2017 and who won't miss the minor leaguer, then make the trade.

PS, how much WAR has Adams accumulated? Markakis?






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[Bull_Market]

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Fading fast using the white sox and I'm sick of all the left handed starting pitching. Every team has the platoon advantage and Quintana is trash and Holland is infuriating to use. Rodon walks everyone. Ideally I'd keep Rodon. What is fair value for Quintana, Holland, and Todd Frazier. Both pitchers have ERA over 4.50.

[rtwilli4]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Fading fast using the white sox and I'm sick of all the left handed starting pitching. Every team has the platoon advantage and Quintana is trash and Holland is infuriating to use. Rodon walks everyone. Ideally I'd keep Rodon. What is fair value for Quintana, Holland, and Todd Frazier. Both pitchers have ERA over 4.50.

Have you read the thread? Tons of great trades for these guys.




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[hampshirestags]

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Fading fast using the white sox and I'm sick of all the left handed starting pitching. Every team has the platoon advantage and Quintana is trash and Holland is infuriating to use. Rodon walks everyone. Ideally I'd keep Rodon. What is fair value for Quintana, Holland, and Todd Frazier. Both pitchers have ERA over 4.50.

As mentioned previously, use the 'search thread' function for Q and pick the deal you like, there are plenty. Holland, with that ERA, gets you nothing.

As far as Frazier, his stat line will have a lot to do with his value but if you can wait a week, I feel pretty comfortable that some GM will tell us what his trade value is.

[Bull_Market]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

As mentioned previously, use the 'search thread' function for Q and pick the deal you like, there are plenty. Holland, with that ERA, gets you nothing.

As far as Frazier, his stat line will have a lot to do with his value but if you can wait a week, I feel pretty comfortable that some GM will tell us what his trade value is.

In game Frazier is hitting .335/16 HR/44 RBI if that helps. Guys I would like to trade for:

Travis Jankowski
Garrett Richards
Wei Yen Chen