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  • whbaseball51121
    Rookie
    • Jul 2017
    • 78

    #3136
    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Pirates0515
    well Kelvin Herrera to the Angels probably wouldn't happen cuz of the lack of prospects the Angels have, but if you are using the OSFM draft roster it would probably take Meyer, Adell, Thaiss. to get Cesear Hernandez probably two C prospects
    I guess maybe I'm undervaluing Hererra here. I thought he was a free agent after this year but I looked and realized I was incorrect as he's controllable through next year as well. I don't want to be rude at all, but I feel like that might be a bit of a large return for Herrera. He's obviously a very good, very valuable pitcher but I feel like his value might be more on par with the returns for multiple years of Will Smith (decent young MLB talent with upside in Susac and a far away low B prospect in Bickford) or rental Mark Melancon (solid young MLB P in Rivero and far away C prospect in Hearn) than one nearing an Andrew Miller-esque level of return. Do you think like Meyer + Brandon Marsh (B POT A ball prospect) might fit based on that model?

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    • Pirates0515
      Rookie
      • Jul 2017
      • 57

      #3137
      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by whbaseball51121
      I guess maybe I'm undervaluing Hererra here. I thought he was a free agent after this year but I looked and realized I was incorrect as he's controllable through next year as well. I don't want to be rude at all, but I feel like that might be a bit of a large return for Herrera. He's obviously a very good, very valuable pitcher but I feel like his value might be more on par with the returns for multiple years of Will Smith (decent young MLB talent with upside in Susac and a far away low B prospect in Bickford) or rental Mark Melancon (solid young MLB P in Rivero and far away C prospect in Hearn) than one nearing an Andrew Miller-esque level of return. Do you think like Meyer + Brandon Marsh (B POT A ball prospect) might fit based on that model?
      I said that because Herrera is a great reliever granite he isn't on the level of a chapman but with the angels farm system they don't really have any spectacular players in there farm system which is why I said that return

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      • GamecocksLaw17
        MVP
        • Jun 2015
        • 1503

        #3138
        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

        #Athletics trade Sean Doolittle and Ryan Madson to Washington for RHP Blake Treinen, INF Sheldon Neuse and LHP Jesus Luzardo

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        • Mattchu12
          Pro
          • Feb 2007
          • 648

          #3139
          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
          #Athletics trade Sean Doolittle and Ryan Madson to Washington for RHP Blake Treinen, INF Sheldon Neuse and LHP Jesus Luzardo

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          No team makes more head scratching trades than the A's. A reliever having a bad year and two guys who didn't make BA's organizational Top 10, though they're both in MLB's, for two pretty damn good relievers.

          Maybe they'll give me Gray for Mato + Adams after all.

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          • GamecocksLaw17
            MVP
            • Jun 2015
            • 1503

            #3140
            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Mattchu12
            No team makes more head scratching trades than the A's. A reliever having a bad year and two guys who didn't make BA's organizational Top 10, though they're both in MLB's, for two pretty damn good relievers.

            Maybe they'll give me Gray for Mato + Adams after all.
            My guess is the Nats took all of Madson's money and Doolittle's injury history hurt his value

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            • disk
              Rookie
              • Dec 2013
              • 60

              #3141
              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

              Yeah not much to like about that trade if your an A's fan.

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              • BlueJays09
                MVP
                • Jul 2011
                • 2553

                #3142
                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                Just read on MLB Trade Rumors that Cubs were interested in Stroman. Looks like the Blue Jays would want a MLB player back in return. What would it likely take? Here are the stats from Stroman and the players I have interest in from the Cubs.

                Stroman: 9-7, 3.71 ERA, 1.23 WHIP 104 K, 2.3 WAR in 128.2 IP

                Baez: .288/.283/.335 5 HR, 28 RBI, 5 SB, -0.6 WAR in 272 AB
                Happ: .248/.306/.400 6 HR, 27 RBI, 2 SB, -0.4 WAR in 145 AB
                Schwarber: .273/.386/.486 17 HR, 49 RBI 4 SB, 2.1 WAR in 286 AB
                Candelario: .291 with 4 HR, 21 RBI in 199 AB in AAA

                I would like to get one of the above players (Preferably Baez/Happ + Candelerio or a pitcher for Stroman + add's if required.)

                Thanks!

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                • rtwilli4
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 226

                  #3143
                  Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by BlueJays09
                  Just read on MLB Trade Rumors that Cubs were interested in Stroman. Looks like the Blue Jays would want a MLB player back in return. What would it likely take? Here are the stats from Stroman and the players I have interest in from the Cubs.



                  Stroman: 9-7, 3.71 ERA, 1.23 WHIP 104 K, 2.3 WAR in 128.2 IP



                  Baez: .288/.283/.335 5 HR, 28 RBI, 5 SB, -0.6 WAR in 272 AB

                  Happ: .248/.306/.400 6 HR, 27 RBI, 2 SB, -0.4 WAR in 145 AB

                  Schwarber: .273/.386/.486 17 HR, 49 RBI 4 SB, 2.1 WAR in 286 AB

                  Candelario: .291 with 4 HR, 21 RBI in 199 AB in AAA



                  I would like to get one of the above players (Preferably Baez/Happ + Candelerio or a pitcher for Stroman + add's if required.)



                  Thanks!

                  I am biased because I love watching Stroman pitch and think he'd be awesome in Chicago.

                  I think you could get Schwarber... it was reported that the Cubs offered him to Detroit before the break. Maybe someone else can do the math to see if you could also get Candelario... sorry I'm busy but top of my head says yes.

                  I don't think the Cubs are trading Baez.


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                  • BlueJays09
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 2553

                    #3144
                    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by rtwilli4
                    I am biased because I love watching Stroman pitch and think he'd be awesome in Chicago.

                    I think you could get Schwarber... it was reported that the Cubs offered him to Detroit before the break. Maybe someone else can do the math to see if you could also get Candelario... sorry I'm busy but top of my head says yes.

                    I don't think the Cubs are trading Baez.


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                    I would take Schwarber. Him, Pillar and Conforto (from Donaldson trade) would be alright for next year. I would like to get Candelario as well though to replace JD at 3B next year.

                    I am looking at Schwarber + Candelario + Brett Anderson for Stroman. Is this okay?
                    Last edited by BlueJays09; 07-16-2017, 02:03 PM.

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                    • rtwilli4
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 226

                      #3145
                      MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by BlueJays09
                      I would take Schwarber. Him, Pillar and Conforto (from Donaldson trade) would be alright for next year. I would like to get Candelario as well though to replace JD at 3B next year.

                      I am looking at Schwarber + Candelario + Brett Anderson for Stroman. Is this okay?


                      They aren't gonna trade two guys off their 25 man and only get one in return.


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                      • BlueJays09
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 2553

                        #3146
                        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by rtwilli4
                        They aren't gonna trade two guys off their 25 man and only get one in return.

                        Also, do the Cubs have Quintana?


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                        Well Anderson has been in AAA all year. Quintana is on the roster. I would take Schwarber + Candelario if that would work better. Maybe change Anderson to a career minor league C player?

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                        • rtwilli4
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 226

                          #3147
                          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by BlueJays09
                          Well Anderson has been in AAA all year. Quintana is on the roster. I would take Schwarber + Candelario if that would work better. Maybe change Anderson to a career minor league C player?


                          The bluejays don't want junk. No reason to send em a career minor leaguer. Schwarber, Candelario and a legit C prospect would do it, but some might say it's an overpayment.

                          You should get a second opinion.


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                          • BlueJays09
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 2553

                            #3148
                            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by rtwilli4
                            The bluejays don't want junk. No reason to send em a career minor leaguer. Schwarber, Candelario and a legit C prospect would do it, but some might say it's an overpayment.

                            You should get a second opinion.


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                            Thanks a lot! I just wanted to make sure that the deals were realistic. Thanks again.

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                            • disk
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 60

                              #3149
                              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                              All depends on how high or low you are on both Stroman and Schwarber. Both guys look like they could be studs or duds and at this point the Cubs would be selling low on Schwarber. I'm not sure the Cubs would trade anyone on their 25-man at this point but you never know, I would do Schwarber for Stroman straight up but Schwarber + Candelario + a C pitching prospect wouldn't be crazy.

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                              • BlueJays09
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 2553

                                #3150
                                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by disk
                                All depends on how high or low you are on both Stroman and Schwarber. Both guys look like they could be studs or duds and at this point the Cubs would be selling low on Schwarber. I'm not sure the Cubs would trade anyone on their 25-man at this point but you never know, I would do Schwarber for Stroman straight up but Schwarber + Candelario + a C pitching prospect wouldn't be crazy.
                                What if I tossed back a left RP like Loup?

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