MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[kenp86]

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I like NY for Felix . They're in the market for an ace and it could be something like C.C, Sheffield, and Bird for Felix?. Cano I feel could go elsewhere.

Theyd want and get more than that for Felix

[Beastboy2335]

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Theyd want and get more than that for Felix

Fair enough. Would replacing Bird with Frazier or Mateo get it fone? And possibly NYM for Cano? They could use a pure hitter in their lineup and their rotation in game is already filthy

[kenp86]

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Fair enough. Would replacing Bird with Frazier or Mateo get it fone? And possibly NYM for Cano? They could use a pure hitter in their lineup and their rotation in game is already filthy

Maybe im over valuing Felix, but i think a package like
A) Kap, Sheffield and Mateo

Or

B)Kap, Frazier, Mateo

Then a deal like: Gsellman. D.Smith and a contract like Granderson (whose money comes off at years end)

[Pirates0515]

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In one of my test simulations I started out with the Braves (not a small budget for 2017) and traded away Kemp, Dickey, Colon and Freeman, all for prospects. I was banking loads of cash for all of 2017.

But once offseason starts, that money seems to vanish. Note that my cash flow did increase by a substantial amount but I couldn't figure out exactly how the banked cash correlated to the increased cash flow for the 17-18 off season and the 2018 season. I did several sims and the math never seemed consistent.

I'm hoping this is just a foundation for a much more detailed budget system as IRL there are many MANY more things that factor in.

You should be able to take in $$$ for parking, merch, concessions, media contracts, etc. And if you don't spend it, you should get to keep it. Look at what the Brewers are doing... they are certainly bringing in more $$$ then they are spending at the moment... their payroll is likely to double over then next 2-3 years but in The Show 17 the only way they can increase is if you win a lot right from the start.

Unfortunately I think it is more likely that the budget system will stay as is, which encourages guys like you to spend their stubs on more budget.





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Yeah I get it. I like how they included all of the cash flow stuff but the one thing I don't like is how a team like the brewers has a $10 million budget when like the Yankees have the same budget. I want something more realistic for the budget, but what I think the designers did is that they have each team at a $10 million budget is so a team like the brewers who are far under the luxury can't go out and trade for two star players who have a high salary. Or trading prospects for a verlander and Wilson and then still be able to go after a guy like Darvish if they wanted. I mean thats just another part of my opinion, but I would like to see if they are going to be moving more towards a new budget system in the future that's more realistic

[kenp86]

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Actually think im going to bring Cano back to NYY now lol Cano for Sheffield, Castro and Kap? Yanks lineup would be deadly. In 2019 season.

1. G.Torres, SS
2. R.Cano, 2B
3. B.Harper, RF (FA)
4. A.Judge, LF
5. T.Frazier, 3B
6. G.Sanchez, C
7. J.Bour, DH
8. G.Bird, 1B
9. C.Frazier, CF

[Beastboy2335]

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Actuallt think im going to bring Cano back to NYY now lol Cano for Sheffield, Castro and Kap? Yanks lineup would be deadly. In 2019 season.

1. G.Torres, SS
2. R.Cano, 2B
3. B.Harper, RF (FA)
4. A.Judge, LF
5. T.Frazier, 3B
6. G.Sanchez, C
7. J.Bour, DH
8. G.Bird, 1B
9. C.Frazier, CF

Its my understanding that the Yanks are super high on Kap so maybe Chance Adams instead? On my roster he is a 68ovr B poyential

[whbaseball51121]

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Hey guys! So I'm around the deadline and trying to make realistic moves for other contenders as well as my own franchise and I wanted to make sure that I was making relatively fair moves. Any thoughts on these would be appreciated!

Neshek to BOS for Chatham and Beeks
Hellickson and Nava to SEA for Povse + ???
Hand to CHC for Candelario + De La Cruz
Cozart to BAL for Akin + Scott (Hardy out for year)
AJ Ramos to TEX for ???
Moustakas to BOS for Dalbec + Raudes

Any feedback on any of the trades would be great, thanks!

[Bard]

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Would anyone have ever suggested Tyler O'Neill for Marco Gonzales? Haha.

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[GamecocksLaw17]

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Would anyone have ever suggested Tyler O'Neill for Marco Gonzales? Haha.

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Gonzales was a top-50 prospect in 2015 but has had injuries. O'neill has had a rough year in AAA this season so I don't think it is as outrageous as it seems. But to answer no we probably wouldn't have

[Mattchu12]

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Thinking about doing the Robertson/Kanhle trade without Frazier before the starting my franchise, what would be the fair adjustment to the trade? If there's not much of a difference, I'll probably keep Frazier involved.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Thinking about doing the Robertson/Kanhle trade without Frazier before the starting my franchise, what would be the fair adjustment to the trade? If there's not much of a difference, I'll probably keep Frazier involved.

Taking Frazier out doesn't let you keep Rutherford if that's what you're asking

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[Mattchu12]

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Taking Frazier out doesn't let you keep Rutherford if that's what you're asking

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Not really expecting to keep Rutherford, though I wouldn't mind swapping him for Mateo so I could use Rutherford in another deal. I figured it would mean dropping Polo or maybe at the most someone beneath Clarkin, but wanted to see if I was underrating Frazier.

[kenp86]

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Came out today (least i think it was today, just read an article on it), Cespedes wants to finish his career where it started, in Oakland. What might the cost of a deal be?

[ds4tw]

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so, i'm playing the jays and i plan to throw in the towel.

what am i honestly looking for if I trade Donaldson and Osuna to expedite this process? what would be my comparable as i try and keep it fair

also, does tulo or martin have much value? my jays goggles makes it have to see.


thanks in advance

[brandonholmes]

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so, i'm playing the jays and i plan to throw in the towel.

what am i honestly looking for if I trade Donaldson and Osuna to expedite this process? what would be my comparable as i try and keep it fair

also, does tulo or martin have much value? my jays goggles makes it have to see.


thanks in advance

Jays fan here, so also wearing goggles.

However, Donaldson and Osuna have been discussed in this thread. If you're in 2017, and both are performing to career norms, you're looking at a good haul for both.

Donaldson to the Mets, for example, has been discussed for Amed Rosario+. Osuna has been discussed for a package headlined by Fedde of the Nationals+. Stats for both would be appreciated, as they help in terms of developing value. In a vacuum however, both are seriously valuable assets. Stats will help give you secondary pieces.

Edit: Totally skipped over Tulo and Martin!

Tulo doesn't have a ton of value. His bat is dropping off rapidly and he got paid. Ditto Martin, who gives lots of value as a game caller and veteran presence, as well as a strong OBP guy. He probably carries more ancillary value to the Jays than he does as a trade chip, but he probably fetches more than Tulo. I would recommend keeping both, as they hold more value in game than they do as trading pieces, unless you want to completely burn it down.