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  • BigOscar
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    • May 2016
    • 2971

    #3466
    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by whbaseball51121
    There's absolutely truth to that, although Harper clearing vs Stanton clearing is very different. Harper plays in a contender so they absolutely wouldn't trade him right now and doesn't have an albatross contract. In Stanton's case though, the contract carries such risk that I firmly believe that's why he cleared waivers. He's on a non contender and they're talking through trades with other teams. He's pretty clearly available, plus the Marlins have a history of dumping their good players for cash, so I don't think teams would see it as a waste of time to claim him if they were willing to take on the salary on the off chance they just wanted to rid themselves of the money or were willing to accept an inferior prospect package. If a team was willing to pay that and wanted Stanton, they would him claimed him and hoped to work out a trade or have him dumped on them. FWIW, SB Nation's Grant Brisbee agreed with that outlook in his most recent Stanton article:



    Don't know how to link here but he says it in the first paragraph. Obviously his word isn't the end all be all, but just showing that that view is shared by some pretty knowledgeable baseball people.

    Again, with regards to a trade, it's important to know how his salary is dealt with. I can't check because I don't have my system with me, so if someone could post a year by year breakdown that would make this much easier. If anyone could that would be greatly appreciated!
    Honestly just don't agree at all with your assessment. Mid season trades are for the here and now, a Stanton trade would be about the next decade of your franchise. That's why no one was trying to make a deal for him, not that they don't think he's even worth his contract.

    It's a trade that only happens in the offseason and I imagine we'll see a lot of talk of it in a few months. There are plenty of teams who'd be very tempted by Stanton, even with that contract as he's a genuine star and still young, he's far from being a Miggy/Pujols type deal. Trading for him is a long term move, you'd have to be planning to build your franchise around him to make that trade and you just don't do that sort of thing in a hurry in the middle of a season.

    Honestly think you'd be looking at a genuine prospect haul for him, even with the contract. Can't think of many similar deals in the past to compare it to except possibly the A-Rod to Yankees trade (where the Rangers did agree to pay some of the contract, but they got Alfonso Soriano back, who was a genuine superstar in his own right)

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    • whbaseball51121
      Rookie
      • Jul 2017
      • 78

      #3467
      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by BigOscar
      Honestly just don't agree at all with your assessment. Mid season trades are for the here and now, a Stanton trade would be about the next decade of your franchise. That's why no one was trying to make a deal for him, not that they don't think he's even worth his contract.

      It's a trade that only happens in the offseason and I imagine we'll see a lot of talk of it in a few months. There are plenty of teams who'd be very tempted by Stanton, even with that contract as he's a genuine star and still young, he's far from being a Miggy/Pujols type deal. Trading for him is a long term move, you'd have to be planning to build your franchise around him to make that trade and you just don't do that sort of thing in a hurry in the middle of a season.

      Honestly think you'd be looking at a genuine prospect haul for him, even with the contract. Can't think of many similar deals in the past to compare it to except possibly the A-Rod to Yankees trade (where the Rangers did agree to pay some of the contract, but they got Alfonso Soriano back, who was a genuine superstar in his own right)
      I don't think this situation is really comparable to ARod. ARod was a much better player on a much better contract than Stanton. He's obviously amazing, but he's owed nearly $300 million if he so chooses, which either he's good enough to leave or not playing near his contract if he sticks around. It's a brutal contract. Stanton is incredibly injury prone so there's a good chance you're paying him $30 million a year to miss significant time. He's played 150 games once, and that was 2011 (given he did play 145 one other year). He was only 14% above league average last year offensively and the defense has declined. I can't imagine too many teams wanting to risk taking on a $300 deal with an opt out that only helps the player for a guy who's injury prone and has declined defensively. He's a great player, but he's no Trout, and teams are absolutely scared off by 1) his contract, because it provides little surplus value if any and presents a massive risk, and 2) the return the Marlins would want. No other team wants to pay that deal, and if another team were interested they would have claimed him hoping to either make a trade or be awarded Stanton considering he's a big upgrade for any contender in the now term.

      Dave Cameron of Fangraphs also agreed that he isn't worth that contract because of the opt out and other risk involved per his latest Fangraphs chat as well.
      Last edited by whbaseball51121; 08-17-2017, 11:07 AM. Reason: One last thought

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      • CSL
        Pro
        • Aug 2009
        • 628

        #3468
        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by whbaseball51121
        There's absolutely truth to that, although Harper clearing vs Stanton clearing is very different. Harper plays in a contender so they absolutely wouldn't trade him right now and doesn't have an albatross contract. In Stanton's case though, the contract carries such risk that I firmly believe that's why he cleared waivers. He's on a non contender and they're talking through trades with other teams. He's pretty clearly available, plus the Marlins have a history of dumping their good players for cash, so I don't think teams would see it as a waste of time to claim him if they were willing to take on the salary on the off chance they just wanted to rid themselves of the money or were willing to accept an inferior prospect package. If a team was willing to pay that and wanted Stanton, they would him claimed him and hoped to work out a trade or have him dumped on them. FWIW, SB Nation's Grant Brisbee agreed with that outlook in his most recent Stanton article:



        Don't know how to link here but he says it in the first paragraph. Obviously his word isn't the end all be all, but just showing that that view is shared by some pretty knowledgeable baseball people.

        Again, with regards to a trade, it's important to know how his salary is dealt with. I can't check because I don't have my system with me, so if someone could post a year by year breakdown that would make this much easier. If anyone could that would be greatly appreciated!
        breakdown in-game is:
        2017 14.8m (age 27 season)
        2018 15.6m
        2019 16.4m
        2020 17.2m
        2021 18m
        2022 19m
        2023 19.9m
        2024 20.9m
        2025 21.9m
        2026 23m (age 36 season)

        that's as far as the game/player card shows, doesn't show the final year but judging by the increments, I'm 95% sure it would be 24.1m or 24.2m

        his real life breakdown:

        2017 $14.5M
        2018 $25M
        2019 $26M
        2020 $26M
        2021 $29M
        2022 $29M
        2023 $32M
        2024 $32M
        2025 $32M
        2026 $29M
        2027 $25M
        Yeah.

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        • whbaseball51121
          Rookie
          • Jul 2017
          • 78

          #3469
          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by CSL
          breakdown in-game is:
          2017 14.8m (age 27 season)
          2018 15.6m
          2019 16.4m
          2020 17.2m
          2021 18m
          2022 19m
          2023 19.9m
          2024 20.9m
          2025 21.9m
          2026 23m (age 36 season)

          that's as far as the game/player card shows, doesn't show the final year but judging by the increments, I'm 95% sure it would be 24.1m or 24.2m

          his real life breakdown:

          2017 $14.5M
          2018 $25M
          2019 $26M
          2020 $26M
          2021 $29M
          2022 $29M
          2023 $32M
          2024 $32M
          2025 $32M
          2026 $29M
          2027 $25M
          Thank you! So he's a significantly more valuable asset in game because that's a huge savings as opposed to real life, plus it eliminates the opt out risk. He's still hard to figure out, but on that contract he's definitely a valuable asset who would require a very significant prospect haul considering they'd presumably ask for a decent package on his actual contract. So from the Jays, I would think Vlad Jr is a fair starting point, and the a's are gonna take probably Barreto + Puk+.

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          • kenp86
            MVP
            • May 2008
            • 2979

            #3470
            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

            2018 offseason. Two questions..

            1) Can Austin Beck, OF(20 yo, 69 overall, 89 pot) and Renato Nunez, 3B (24 yo, 68 overall, 83 pot) get me Yoenis Cespedes as the As? 2018 numbers for YC, 20HR, 63 RBI, .225 avg, 1.6 WAR

            2) Can I get Giancarlo Stanton (38 HR, 116 Rbi, .337 avg, 8.9 war) for a package of: Darin Smith,OF (20 yo, 84 overall, 90 pot, 2017 1st round pick), Barney Serano, 2B/SS (84 overall, 92 pot, 2018 1st round pick) and maybe a pitcher like Logan Shore?
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            • jfinger2013
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              • Dec 2012
              • 765

              #3471
              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

              What is a realistic post trade deadline, trade to get Jeremy Hellickson to the Cubs. I gave them a young catcher, a young pitcher,and a young ss

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              • Danpagnepapi
                Rookie
                • Mar 2016
                • 31

                #3472
                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                What kind of return could i get for JT Realmuto in my Marlins franchise? I just don't seem to cook up with him like i should for whatever reason. Currently hitting .227 2hr 12rbi through 23 games in 2019. 2018 he hit .244 13hr 63rbi in 144 games. He's 86 ovr with above average defense and pretty good contact stats for a catcher.

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                • BigOscar
                  MVP
                  • May 2016
                  • 2971

                  #3473
                  Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by jfinger2013
                  What is a realistic post trade deadline, trade to get Jeremy Hellickson to the Cubs. I gave them a young catcher, a young pitcher,and a young ss

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                  That's probably more than enough, he has no real value as shown in real life, where he was traded for a longshot pitching prospect and a salary dump in Hyun Soo Kim. He's paid $17m for the year irl, so that cripples any actual value he might have. Expensive rentals who aren't exceptionally good don't really have any value, the quality of return is mainly down to how much of the huge salary the team is willing to take on

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                  • whbaseball51121
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2017
                    • 78

                    #3474
                    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by BigOscar
                    That's probably more than enough, he has no real value as shown in real life, where he was traded for a longshot pitching prospect and a salary dump in Hyun Soo Kim. He's paid $17m for the year irl, so that cripples any actual value he might have. Expensive rentals who aren't exceptionally good don't really have any value, the quality of return is mainly down to how much of the huge salary the team is willing to take on
                    Agreed. Curious what specific players he actually gave up in the deal?

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                    • kenp86
                      MVP
                      • May 2008
                      • 2979

                      #3475
                      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by kenp86
                      2018 offseason. Two questions..

                      1) Can Austin Beck, OF(20 yo, 69 overall, 89 pot) and Renato Nunez, 3B (24 yo, 68 overall, 83 pot) get me Yoenis Cespedes as the As? 2018 numbers for YC, 20HR, 63 RBI, .225 avg, 1.6 WAR

                      2) Can I get Giancarlo Stanton (38 HR, 116 Rbi, .337 avg, 8.9 war) for a package of: Darin Smith,OF (20 yo, 84 overall, 90 pot, 2017 1st round pick), Barney Serano, 2B/SS (84 overall, 92 pot, 2018 1st round pick) and maybe a pitcher like Logan Shore?
                      Bump. And to add to this, heard an interview with a marlins insider so said he believes Stanton will indeed be traded by this time next year and that he also thinks new ownership might want to pull a cubs and tear this thing down and rebuild it from the ground up. Nothing obviously known for sure, was just the feeling he has.

                      Any thoughts on the two questions about Cespedes and Stanton?
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                      • BigOscar
                        MVP
                        • May 2016
                        • 2971

                        #3476
                        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by kenp86
                        Bump. And to add to this, heard an interview with a marlins insider so said he believes Stanton will indeed be traded by this time next year and that he also thinks new ownership might want to pull a cubs and tear this thing down and rebuild it from the ground up. Nothing obviously known for sure, was just the feeling he has.

                        Any thoughts on the two questions about Cespedes and Stanton?
                        Value wise I think both seem more than fair, but I guess it comes down to what the Mets and Marlins are doing. Cespedes looks to have had a torrid time, but if the Mets are going for it I don't know if they trade him for players who aren't going to contribute this year (unless to flip for a replacement). If they are thinking of rebuilding then that's a great deal for them, getting a highly paid underperformer off the payroll and getting a couple of guys who are maybe a year or two away with everyday potential in return.

                        If anything, I think you're overpaying on Stanton. Both of those guys you've put sound like absolute superstars, already above average major league players with elite potential and loads of team control. If you're happy giving them up then I can't imagine the Marlins would say no. Maybe I'm wrong, guess it depends on other things as well like if they're competing and how much they need a middle infielder, or if they'd more be in the market for a pitcher

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                        • kenp86
                          MVP
                          • May 2008
                          • 2979

                          #3477
                          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by BigOscar
                          Value wise I think both seem more than fair, but I guess it comes down to what the Mets and Marlins are doing. Cespedes looks to have had a torrid time, but if the Mets are going for it I don't know if they trade him for players who aren't going to contribute this year (unless to flip for a replacement). If they are thinking of rebuilding then that's a great deal for them, getting a highly paid underperformer off the payroll and getting a couple of guys who are maybe a year or two away with everyday potential in return.

                          If anything, I think you're overpaying on Stanton. Both of those guys you've put sound like absolute superstars, already above average major league players with elite potential and loads of team control. If you're happy giving them up then I can't imagine the Marlins would say no. Maybe I'm wrong, guess it depends on other things as well like if they're competing and how much they need a middle infielder, or if they'd more be in the market for a pitcher
                          Well Marlins have had 2 bad years. So Stanton will be traded. Serano is available because i want to run with the Barreto/Mateo tandom with Oakland and Smith cause i just simply cant hit with him and he has a terrible arm lol

                          And the Mets made the WC2 in 2017 and then had the 2nd worst recordin the league in 2018. So its a "retool" year. Nit a rebuild because they have a bunch of quality youngsters already.
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                          • BlueJays09
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                            • Jul 2011
                            • 2553

                            #3478
                            MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                            I am 2 days before the August deadline. What might I be able to get for Estrada, who is pitching 9-10 with 3.71 ERA, 1.17 WHIP, 124K over 150.1IP (2.1 WAR)?

                            Also JP Howell 4.something ERA over the season. No time missed with injury. Would appreciate what kind of prospects/fringe MLB players I could get back for them as I'm building for next season.

                            Thanks!


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                            • UNDERTAKER1215
                              Pro
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 692

                              #3479
                              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                              So I have two days until the trade deadline and want to make some deals for CPU teams. I'll list the teams in contention, positions of need, and players who could potentially be available. If anyone could come up with some deals that would be realistic and make sense, that would be great.

                              Yankees: RHP RP

                              Indians: RHP RP

                              Mariners: SP, LHP RP, RHP RP, Backup OF

                              Rangers: LHP RP, Backup INF

                              Astros: SP, 1B, INF, LF

                              Nationals: Backup INF

                              Mets: RHP RP, C, 1B, INF, OF

                              Phillies: SP, LHP RP, RHP RP, C, Backup INF

                              Cubs: LHP RP, Backup INF

                              Pirates: SP, LHP RP, RHP RP, Backup INF, Backup OF

                              Cardinals: LHP RP, RHP RP

                              Diamondbacks: RHP RP

                              Dodgers: LHP RP

                              Giants: LHP RP, CP, Backup OF



                              Potentially Available Players:

                              SP:

                              Wade Miley (BAL) - 7-7, 125.2 IP, 83 K, 46 BB, 3.22 ERA, 1.37 WHIP
                              Chris Tillman (BAL) - 4-8, 130.2 IP, 108 K, 35 BB, 3.79 ERA, 1.22 WHIP
                              Alex Cobb (TB) - 7-7, 121.1 IP, 116 K, 33 BB, 3.71 ERA, 1.15 WHIP
                              J.A. Happ (TOR) - 7-10, 119.1 IP, 98 K, 30 BB, 4.22 ERA, 1.32 WHIP
                              Matt Latos (TOR) - 6-1, 55.2 IP, 37 K, 12 BB, 0.81 ERA, 0.93 WHIP
                              Marco Estrada (TOR) - 7-7, 135.1 IP, 125 K, 40 BB, 3.06 ERA, 1.09 WHIP
                              Derek Holland (CWS) - 9-6, 124.2 IP, 79 K, 35 BB, 3.32 ERA, 1.14 WHIP
                              Justin Verlander (DET) - 7-5, 143.0 IP, 132 K, 33 BB, 3.65 ERA, 1.28 WHIP
                              Jordan Zimmerman (DET) - 4-2, 79.1 IP, 57 K, 14 BB, 3.29 ERA, 1.17 WHIP
                              Jason Hammel (KC) - 5-7, 117.1 IP, 95 K, 37 BB, 4.37 ERA, 1.18 WHIP
                              Matt Shoemaker (LAA) - 9-4, 129.2 IP, 107 K, 22 BB, 3.12 ERA, 1.11 WHIP
                              Julio Teheran (ATL) - 9-6, 129.2 IP, 103 K, 46 BB, 4.23 ERA, 1.37 WHIP
                              Dan Straily (MIA) - 8-4, 115.2 IP, 117 K, 51 BB, 3.35 ERA, 1.26 WHIP
                              Scott Feldman (CIN) - 5-3, 114.1 IP, 72 K, 24 BB, 3.31 ERA, 1.17 WHIP
                              Matt Garza (MIL) - 5-3, 79.1 IP, 47 K, 26 BB, 2.95 ERA, 1.26 WHIP
                              Tyler Chatwood (COL) - 5-9, 129.2 IP, 97 K, 54 BB, 3.89 ERA, 1.33 WHIP
                              Clayton Richard (SD) - 4-3, 84.0 IP, 50 K, 22 BB, 4.07 ERA, 1.42 WHIP
                              Jered Weaver (SD) - 6-9, 124.2 IP, 85 K, 26 BB, 3.68 ERA, 1.38 WHIP

                              RHP RP:
                              Brad Brach (BAL) - 6-2, 50.2 IP, 42 K, 18 BB, 2.49 ERA, 1.30 WHIP
                              Tommy Hunter (TB) - 4-3, 53.2 IP, 51 K, 11 BB, 3.19 ERA, 1.16 WHIP
                              Alex Colome (TB) - 2-2, 26 SV, 34.2 IP, 31 K, 4 BB, 2.08 ERA, 0.95 WHIP
                              Jason Grilli (TOR) - 1-2, 1 SV, 46.1 IP, 58 K, 23 BB, 2.91 ERA, 1.29 WHIP
                              Anthony Swarzak (CWS) - 2-2, 52.2 IP, 37 K, 18 BB, 3.42 ERA, 1.35 WHIP
                              Francisco Rodriguez (DET) - 1-2, 19 SV, 35.0 IP, 30 K, 10 BB, 2.57 ERA, 1.23 WHIP
                              Kelvin Herrera (KC) - 3-1, 16 SV, 30.0 IP, 27 K, 8 BB, 2.40 ERA, 1.23 WHIP
                              Yusmeiro Petit (LAA) - 4-6, 7 SV, 74.2 IP, 62 K, 13 BB, 2.29 ERA, 0.91 WHIP
                              Liam Hendriks (OAK) - 2-3, 1 SV, 71.1 IP, 71 K, 10 BB, 3.03 ERA, 1.11 WHIP
                              John Axford (OAK) - 1-5, 1 SV, 36.0 IP, 40 K, 28 BB, 3.50 ERA, 1.67 WHIP
                              Santiago Casilla (OAK) - 0-1, 32 SV, 34.1 IP, 30 K, 11 BB, 2.36 ERA, 1.25 WHIP
                              Josh Collmenter (ATL) - 1-2, 56.1 IP, 44 K, 28 BB, 3.36 ERA, 1.54 WHIP
                              Kyle Barraclough (MIA) - 0-2, 2 SV, 26.2 IP, 35 K, 17 BB, 3.38 ERA, 1.43 WHIP
                              Junichi Tazawa (MIA) - 0-0, 12.0 IP, 9 K, 5 BB, 0.75 ERA, 1.17 WHIP
                              Brad Ziegler (MIA) - 3-2, 1 SV, 63.0 IP, 41 K, 26 BB, 3.00 ERA, 1.24 WHIP
                              Drew Storen (CIN) - 0-1, 2 SV, 30.1 IP, 36 K, 7 BB, 2.67 ERA, 1.12 WHIP
                              Jordan Lyles (COL) - 0-0, 1 SV, 25.2 IP, 17 K, 13 BB, 2.81 ERA, 1.52 WHIP
                              Adam Ottavino (COL) - 4-4, 2 SV, 70.1 IP, 69 K, 30 BB, 3.71 ERA, 1.44 WHIP
                              Brandon Maurer (SD) - 2-2, 15 SV, 45.2 IP, 44 K, 7 BB, 3.35 ERA, 1.23 WHIP

                              LHP RP:
                              Zach Britton (BAL) - 1-2, 30.2 IP, 28 K, 7 BB, 1.76 ERA, 0.91 WHIP
                              Fernando Abad (BOS) - 1-0, 17.2 IP, 7 K, 4 BB, 3.06 ERA, 1.08 WHIP
                              Xavier Cedeno (TB) - 3-2, 1 SV, 17.2 IP, 15 K, 8 BB, 1.02 ERA, 1.08 WHIP
                              Dan Jennings (TB) - 0-1, 3 SV, 20.2 IP, 21 K, 11 BB, 1.74 ERA, 1.31 WHIP
                              Aaron Loup (TOR) - 2-1, 38.1 IP, 32 K, 14 BB, 3.05 ERA, 1.04 WHIP
                              Mike Minor (KC) - 4-0, 65.2 IP, 46 K, 15 BB, 3.84 ERA, 1.20 WHIP
                              Matt Strahm (KC) - 3-3, 58.1 IP, 61 K, 24 BB, 3.09 ERA, 1.41 WHIP
                              Glen Perkins (MIN) - 2-1, 17 SV, 26.1 IP, 19 K, 3 BB, 1.03 ERA, 0.99 WHIP
                              Ian Krol (ATL) - 1-1, 2 SV, 34.1 IP, 32 K, 14 BB, 2.10 ERA, 1.43 WHIP
                              Jeff Locke (MIA) - 3-1, 57.0 IP, 35 K, 17 BB, 3.38 ERA, 1.43 WHIP
                              Tommy Milone (MIL) - 2-2, 72.1 IP, 47 K, 24 BB, 2.24 ERA, 1.18 WHIP
                              Jake McGee (COL) - 2-2, 2 SV, 45.1 IP, 46 K, 14 BB, 2.78 ERA, 1.24 WHIP
                              Chris Rusin (COL) - 1-0, 16.0 IP, 9 K, 2 BB, 0.00 ERA, 0.94 WHIP
                              Brad Hand (SD) - 4-3, 11 SV, 57.0 IP, 61 K, 28 BB, 3.79 ERA, 1.40 WHIP

                              C:
                              Geovany Soto (CWS) - 262 AB, 31 R, 10 HR, 33 RBI, 0 SB, .252 AVG
                              Stephen Vogt (OAK) - 297 AB, 37 R, 17 HR, 45 RBI, 0 SB, .276 AVG
                              Devin Mesoraco (CIN) - 281 AB, 28 R, 8 HR, 34 RBI, 0 SB, .238 AVG
                              Jett Bandy (MIL) - 293 AB, 24 R, 9 HR, 32 RBI, 0 SB, .270 AVG
                              Dustin Garneau (COL) - 282 AB, 19 R, 5 HR, 23 RBI, 3 SB, .245 AVG

                              1B:
                              Steve Pearce (TOR) - 327 AB, 37 R, 14 HR, 39 RBI, 0 SB, .251 AVG
                              Victor Martinez (DET) - 385 AB, 50 R, 16 HR, 50 RBI, 0 SB, .306 AVG
                              Eric Hosmer (KC) - 281 AB, 43 R, 11 HR, 31 RBI, 4 SB, .295 AVG
                              Byung Ho Park (MIN) - 232 AB, 38 R, 19 HR, 40 RBI, 3 SB, .272 AVG

                              INF:
                              Josh Donaldson (TOR) - 336 AB, 38 R, 16 HR, 48 RBI, 0 SB, .232 AVG
                              Darwin Barney (TOR) - 141 AB, 17 R, 3 HR, 13 RBI, 0 SB, .248 AVG
                              Ian Kinsler (DET) - 400 AB, 49 R, 18 HR, 55 RBI, 1 SB, .268 AVG
                              Jose Iglesias (DET) - 384 AB, 36 R, 4 HR, 29 RBI, 5 SB, .266 AVG
                              Mike Moustakas (KC) - 168 AB, 15 R, 4 HR, 14 RBI, 0 SB, .268 AVG
                              Alcides Escobar (KC) - 402 AB, 35 R, 5 HR, 25 RBI, 10 SB, .254 AVG
                              Brian Dozier (MIN) - 367 AB, 57 R, 19 HR, 72 RBI, 8 SB, .297 AVG
                              Eduardo Escobar (MIN) - 258 AB, 34 R, 7 HR, 27 RBI, 0 SB, .295 AVG
                              Yunel Escobar (LAA) - 154 AB, 12 R, 1 HR, 9 RBI, 0 SB, .253 AVG
                              Luis Valbuena (LAA) - 290 AB, 36 R, 13 HR, 45 RBI, 0 SB, .269 AVG
                              Jed Lowrie (OAK) - 140 AB, 21 R, 4 HR, 14 RBI, 0 SB, .321 AVG
                              Trevor Plouffe (OAK) - 340 AB, 40 R, 11 HR, 36 RBI, 0 SB, .241 AVG
                              Adonis Garcia (ATL) - 218 AB, 16 R, 3 HR, 21 RBI, 0 SB, .261 AVG
                              Brandon Phillips (ATL) - 349 AB, 36 R, 2 HR, 26 RBI, 3 SB, .261 AVG
                              Adeiny Hechavarria (MIA) - 338 AB, 37 R, 6 HR, 22 RBI, 0 SB, .263 AVG
                              Jonathan Villar (MIL) - 344 AB, 47 R, 3 HR, 24 RBI, 44 SB, .250 AVG
                              Hernan Perez (MIL) - 297 AB, 34 R, 4 HR, 24 RBI, 18 SB, .246 AVG
                              Cory Spangenberg (SD) - 261 AB, 24 R, 11 HR, 24 RBI, 4 SB, .291 AVG
                              Erick Aybar (SD) - 337 AB, 21 R, 4 HR, 34 RBI, 7 SB, .264 AVG
                              Ryan Schimpf (SD) - 291 AB, 40 R, 20 HR, 52 RBI, 0 SB, .265 AVG

                              OF:
                              Seth Smith (BAL) - 190 AB, 16 R, 5 HR, 18 RBI, 0 SB, .300 AVG
                              Hyun Soo Kim (BAL) - 299 AB, 30 R, 5 HR, 26 RBI, 0 SB, .274 AVG
                              Corey Dickerson (TB) - 420 AB, 53 R, 14 HR, 44 RBI, 3 SB, .271 AVG
                              Peter Bourjos (TB) - 206 AB, 24 R, 1 HR, 21 RBI, 4 SB, .262 AVG
                              Nori Aoki (TOR) - 333 AB, 39 R, 2 HR, 25 RBI, 12 SB, .291 AVG
                              Steve Pearce (TOR) - 327 AB, 37 R, 14 HR, 39 RBI, 0 SB, .251 AVG
                              Melky Cabrera (CWS) - 377 AB, 53 R, 12 HR, 39 RBI, 0 SB, .318 AVG
                              Andrew Romine (DET) - 105 AB, 16 R, 2 HR, 15 RBI, 6 SB, .324 AVG
                              Lorenzo Cain (KC) - 350 AB, 45 R, 9 HR, 29 RBI, 19 SB, .260 AVG
                              Robbie Grossman (MIN) - 244 AB, 27 R, 6 HR, 26 RBI, 4 SB, .307 AVG
                              Quintin Berry (MIN) - 182 AB, 28 R, 4 HR, 19 RBI, 4 SB, .286 AVG
                              Ben Revere (LAA) - 337 AB, 37 R, 5 HR, 35 RBI, 20 SB, .279 AVG
                              Cameron Maybin (LAA) - 347 AB, 44 R, 8 HR, 30 RBI, 6 SB, .251 AVG
                              Matt Joyce (OAK) - 294 AB, 23 R, 8 HR, 31 RBI, 3 SB, .259 AVG
                              Khris Davis (OAK) - 390 AB, 51 R, 15 HR, 42 RBI, 1 SB, .254 AVG
                              Ryan Braun (MIL) - 265 AB, 37 R, 21 HR, 60 RBI, 7 SB, .298 AVG
                              Carlos Gonzalez (COL) - 366 AB, 52 R, 16 HR, 49 RBI, 0 SB, .281 AVG
                              Charlie Blackmon (COL) - 372 AB, 48 R, 16 HR, 45 RBI, 20 SB, .280 AVG
                              Chris Denorfia (COL) - 121 AB, 9 R, 2 HR, 9 RBI, 0 SB, .281 AVG
                              Alex Dickerson (SD) - 317 AB, 34 R, 18 HR, 52 RBI, 1 SB, .284 AVG
                              Last edited by UNDERTAKER1215; 08-19-2017, 02:26 PM.
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                              • BlueJays09
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                                • Jul 2011
                                • 2553

                                #3480
                                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                                What would the Dodgers want from Toronto for Joc Pederson?


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