MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[The Left Shark]

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I think you'd be crazy to give up Benintendi in that deal. And this is coming from somebody who traded for Stanton/is doing really well with him.

Well he would be getting Stanton back. Stanton of course is making significantly more money but also signed longer (more control) than Benintendi.

[Councilmann_Jamm]

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Middle of July. I'm 8 games out of 1st - 4.5 out of WC. I've done all real life trades up to date.

What kind of prospects can these players net me.

93 OVR closer - 2.5 years left on contract, 1.89 ERA - 29 Years Old

87 OVR RP - .5 years + Arb year - 0.89 ERA - 30 Years Old

85 OVR RP - 2.5 years of contact @ 7mill, 2.35 ERA - 33 years old

88 OVR SP - 3 Arb Year - 3.8 ERA - 26 Years Old

82 OVR SP - .5 years left - 4.1 ERA - 30 Years Old

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MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

What about that same package with JBJ out and Benintendi in?

I think that's fair when consider Drew's age and massive potential.


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[whbaseball51121]

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Middle of July. I'm 8 games out of 1st - 4.5 out of WC. I've done all real life trades up to date.

What kind of prospects can these players net me.

93 OVR closer - 2.5 years left on contract, 1.89 ERA - 29 Years Old

87 OVR RP - .5 years + Arb year - 0.89 ERA - 30 Years Old

85 OVR RP - 2.5 years of contact @ 7mill, 2.35 ERA - 33 years old

88 OVR SP - 3 Arb Year - 3.8 ERA - 26 Years Old

82 OVR SP - .5 years left - 4.1 ERA - 30 Years Old

Might wanna provide some names for that

[The Left Shark]

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Might wanna provide some names for that

I think the stats and the service control is enough. Names will just skew opinions.

[kinsmen7]

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I think the stats and the service control is enough. Names will just skew opinions.

I would think that providing nameless players with only a 3 month sample size to decide their value would skew opinions a bit more.

[whbaseball51121]

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I would think that providing nameless players with only a 3 month sample size to decide their value would skew opinions a bit more.

I would agree. Track record matters significantly, and while I could probably guess who the players are I think it's just easier for everyone if the players are identified. Having names to go off makes it much easier to find comparable trades and thus gauge their value.

[redsoxfan31]

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Taking a break from the Stanton talk...I want to bring El Capitan, David Wright to the Red Sox from the Mets. I mirror real life injuries so he doesn't have any stats, would I be able to swap Hanley for David Wright and possibly reclaim Jamie Callahan?

[whbaseball51121]

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Taking a break from the Stanton talk...I want to bring El Capitan, David Wright to the Red Sox from the Mets. I mirror real life injuries so he doesn't have any stats, would I be able to swap Hanley for David Wright and possibly reclaim Jamie Callahan?

Don't see why the Mets would do that. Hanley can't really play a defensive position besides maybe 1B but the Mets have Dom Smith ready to take over as their 1B of the future so there's no reason they'd block him with Hanley. I see why they might move Wright because of the contract, but Hanley actually costs more and only has 1 less year on his deal. Why would the Mets dump the face of their franchise, along with a prospect and block their 1B of the future with a mediocre player?

[UNDERTAKER1215]

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So with my team (Red Sox) struggling, and the farm being depleted, I am looking at trading Bogaerts. He has hit for average this year but the power just hasn't been there.

Bogaerts stats on the season as of the middle of August are... 423 AB, 47 R, 2 HR, 36 RBI, 2 SB, .305 AVG, .352 OBP, .376 SLG, .727 OPS, 27 BB, 49 K, 24 2B, 0 3B, .991 FLD%.

What kind of package could I net for him?

The teams outside the AL East without a long term/MLB ready answer at shortstop are...

Royals: Are the Royals moving into a rebuild or are they gonna stick around for a bit?

Twins: Nick Gordon is still a little ways away and the Twins youngsters are starting to come around with Sano and Berrios leading the charge.

Braves?: Dansby Swanson has struggled in real life as well, and is just as bad in-game. But are the Braves ready to move on?

Marlins: Under new ownership, are the Marlins committed to winning now?

Cubs?: Addison Russell has struggled in real life, but in-game, he's hit .277 with 11 HR in 364 AB. Are the Cubs interested in a superstar upgrade?

Pirates: Do the Pirates look to Xander as the final piece to a championship?

Are these teams willing to move a couple top prospects or controllable talent for The X-Man?

Thoughts? Suggestions?

[redsoxfan31]

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I was reading an article about how the SF Giants should trade for Giancarlo Stanton and take on all of his remaining contract, which I want to do with the Red Sox. The article suggested the Giants include their #3 and #5 prospect and Denard Span to offset some of the money, which for the Red Sox would be Sam Travis and Daniel Flores (a 2017 int'l signing). If I were to mimic this package and offer Rick Porcello, Sam Travis or Michael Chavis and Tanner Houck. Would Miami be willing to do that and get all of Stanton's money off their books

[redsoxfan31]

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I was reading an article about how the SF Giants should trade for Giancarlo Stanton and take on all of his remaining contract, which I want to do with the Red Sox. The article suggested the Giants include their #3 and #5 prospect and Denard Span to offset some of the money, which for the Red Sox would be Sam Travis and Daniel Flores (a 2017 int'l signing). If I were to mimic this package and offer Rick Porcello, Sam Travis or Michael Chavis and Tanner Houck. Would Miami be willing to do that and get all of Stanton's money off their books

I think the recent news of Wei-Yen Chen possibly being done for 2018 with elbow issues may help me swing a trade for Giancarlo, any feedback on my original proposal?

[UNDERTAKER1215]

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So I’m thinking about trading Xander Bogaerts in the offseason. He’s a great player, but I want someone with more speed or power, or both, plus I need to restock my farm.

Bogaerts stats on the season as of the middle of August are... 444 AB, 49 R, 2 HR, 39 RBI, 2 SB, .315 AVG, .359 OBP, .385 SLG, .744 OPS, 27 BB, 50 K, 25 2B, 0 3B, .991 FLD%.



What kind of package could I net for him?



The teams outside the AL East without a long term/MLB ready answer at shortstop are...

Royals: Are the Royals moving into a rebuild or are they gonna stick around for a bit?

Twins: Nick Gordon is still a little ways away and the Twins youngsters are starting to come around with Sano and Berrios leading the charge.

Braves?: Dansby Swanson has struggled in real life as well, and is just as bad in-game. But are the Braves ready to move on?

Marlins: Under new ownership, are the Marlins committed to winning now?

Cubs?: Addison Russell has struggled in real life, but in-game, he's hit .277 with 11 HR in 364 AB. Are the Cubs interested in a superstar upgrade?

Pirates: Do the Pirates look to Xander as the final piece to a championship?

Are these teams willing to move a couple top prospects or controllable talent for The X-Man?


Some of the players I would look at to replace X would be...

Tyler Saladino (CWS) - 278 AB, 30 R, 11 HR, 44 RBI, 3 SB, .277 AVG
Dansby Swanson (ATL) - 355 AB, 36 R, 7 HR, 25 RBI, 5 SB, .231 AVG (Depends on if Atlanta were to target Bogaerts)
Dee Gordon (MIA) - 436 AB, 57 R, 4 HR, 48 RBI, 33 SB, .266 AVG
Cesar Hernandez (PHI) - 395 AB, 62 R, 9 HR, 36 RBI, 15 SB, .324 AVG
Zack Cozart (CIN) - 308 AB, 33 R, 8 HR, 38 RBI, 4 SB, .286 AVG (Would be a free agent this offseason)
Jonathan Villar (MIL) - 405 AB, 54 R, 5 HR, 30 RBI, 49 SB, .244 AVG
Josh Harrison (PIT) - 306 AB, 33 R, 6 HR, 30 RBI, 5 SB, .252 AVG
Alen Hanson (PIT) - 162 AB, 22 R, 2 HR, 20 RBI, 7 SB, .278 AVG
Trevor Story (COL) - 368 AB, 53 R, 22 HR, 53 RBI, 5 SB, .223 AVG
Yangervis Solarte (SD) - 386 AB, 38 R, 15 HR, 45 RBI, 0 SB, .244 AVG
Eduardo Nunez (SF) - 441 AB, 61 R, 14 HR, 44 RBI, 19 SB, .304 AVG (Would be a free agent this offseason)

Now some of these I know are downgrades, but if I were to get one of the lesser guys in a swap with Bogaerts, I could take back a couple prospects or something to even it out. These are just guys I've scouted that I think would be good replacements.


Thoughts? Suggestions?

[redsoxfan31]

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So I’m thinking about trading Xander Bogaerts in the offseason. He’s a great player, but I want someone with more speed or power, or both, plus I need to restock my farm.

Bogaerts stats on the season as of the middle of August are... 444 AB, 49 R, 2 HR, 39 RBI, 2 SB, .315 AVG, .359 OBP, .385 SLG, .744 OPS, 27 BB, 50 K, 25 2B, 0 3B, .991 FLD%.



What kind of package could I net for him?



The teams outside the AL East without a long term/MLB ready answer at shortstop are...

Royals: Are the Royals moving into a rebuild or are they gonna stick around for a bit?

Twins: Nick Gordon is still a little ways away and the Twins youngsters are starting to come around with Sano and Berrios leading the charge.

Braves?: Dansby Swanson has struggled in real life as well, and is just as bad in-game. But are the Braves ready to move on?

Marlins: Under new ownership, are the Marlins committed to winning now?

Cubs?: Addison Russell has struggled in real life, but in-game, he's hit .277 with 11 HR in 364 AB. Are the Cubs interested in a superstar upgrade?

Pirates: Do the Pirates look to Xander as the final piece to a championship?

Are these teams willing to move a couple top prospects or controllable talent for The X-Man?


Some of the players I would look at to replace X would be...

Tyler Saladino (CWS) - 278 AB, 30 R, 11 HR, 44 RBI, 3 SB, .277 AVG
Dansby Swanson (ATL) - 355 AB, 36 R, 7 HR, 25 RBI, 5 SB, .231 AVG (Depends on if Atlanta were to target Bogaerts)
Dee Gordon (MIA) - 436 AB, 57 R, 4 HR, 48 RBI, 33 SB, .266 AVG
Cesar Hernandez (PHI) - 395 AB, 62 R, 9 HR, 36 RBI, 15 SB, .324 AVG
Zack Cozart (CIN) - 308 AB, 33 R, 8 HR, 38 RBI, 4 SB, .286 AVG (Would be a free agent this offseason)
Jonathan Villar (MIL) - 405 AB, 54 R, 5 HR, 30 RBI, 49 SB, .244 AVG
Josh Harrison (PIT) - 306 AB, 33 R, 6 HR, 30 RBI, 5 SB, .252 AVG
Alen Hanson (PIT) - 162 AB, 22 R, 2 HR, 20 RBI, 7 SB, .278 AVG
Trevor Story (COL) - 368 AB, 53 R, 22 HR, 53 RBI, 5 SB, .223 AVG
Yangervis Solarte (SD) - 386 AB, 38 R, 15 HR, 45 RBI, 0 SB, .244 AVG
Eduardo Nunez (SF) - 441 AB, 61 R, 14 HR, 44 RBI, 19 SB, .304 AVG (Would be a free agent this offseason)

Now some of these I know are downgrades, but if I were to get one of the lesser guys in a swap with Bogaerts, I could take back a couple prospects or something to even it out. These are just guys I've scouted that I think would be good replacements.


Thoughts? Suggestions?

So the team getting him would have two years of arbitration left and then he'd be a free agent at the prime age of 27. I would say his stats and team control give you and advantage on getting some decent prospects back. If you're looking for strictly power, I'd say the obvious choice is Trevor Story. His swing would play very nicely at Fenway but he's also got massive value to his name given that he won't be a free agent until the 2022 offseason so you'd be getting 2 more years of control with him. If you're looking for a speedster, then I'd say Villar is probably your choice or Dee Gordon but acquiring Gordon would depend on your plan for Pedroia. For the best combination of both I'd go after Eduardo Nunez, which the real life Sox did.

In terms of what you could get for Bogaerts I think that depends on what you're looking for. If you want prospects then I think a team like the Braves (if in game GM wants to move on from Swanson) have the best farm system to work with. If you want major league talent in return I'm not sure the best team. I'd honestly go to Pittsburgh and offer Xander for Mitch Keller straight up, if that doesn't sound like fair value then I'd ask for Cole Tucker, Nick Kingham, and Jordan Luplow.

I don't know if any of this is helpful but I thought I'd try to help out a fellow Sox Nation member

[UNDERTAKER1215]

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So the team getting him would have two years of arbitration left and then he'd be a free agent at the prime age of 27. I would say his stats and team control give you and advantage on getting some decent prospects back. If you're looking for strictly power, I'd say the obvious choice is Trevor Story. His swing would play very nicely at Fenway but he's also got massive value to his name given that he won't be a free agent until the 2022 offseason so you'd be getting 2 more years of control with him. If you're looking for a speedster, then I'd say Villar is probably your choice or Dee Gordon but acquiring Gordon would depend on your plan for Pedroia. For the best combination of both I'd go after Eduardo Nunez, which the real life Sox did.

In terms of what you could get for Bogaerts I think that depends on what you're looking for. If you want prospects then I think a team like the Braves (if in game GM wants to move on from Swanson) have the best farm system to work with. If you want major league talent in return I'm not sure the best team. I'd honestly go to Pittsburgh and offer Xander for Mitch Keller straight up, if that doesn't sound like fair value then I'd ask for Cole Tucker, Nick Kingham, and Jordan Luplow.

I don't know if any of this is helpful but I thought I'd try to help out a fellow Sox Nation member

What kind of package do you think Bogaerts could get from the Braves? Could it include Swanson? I wouldn't mind something like Swanson and Luiz Gohara if thats not too much.

What about the Rockies for Story. Maybe Story, Matt Carasiti, and Scott Oberg.