MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[kenp86]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

I could see one of Acuna/Albies, but not both. They would deal from pitching depth more so than players slotted for roles in 2018.

Point being if it takes both of them, the deal isn't happening.

Furthermore - I don't think (and I would agree with this) AA would trave Acuna straight up for Yelich based on his upside and years of control/salary.

I think the other rumors regarding them searching for SP FA's, indicates that maybe one of Gohara/Newcomb plus a litany of other prospects would be moved.

Theres a report out there now saying that the Nationals are interested in both Yelich and Realmuto and Miami isnt going to listen unless it involves Robles plus another top 5 prospect. Then add in inner division tax. Acuna and Albies is the going rate for both.

Also just read a day or two ago that Philly is involved and the propsed asking price is Sixto Sanchez, Moniak, Alfaro plus a Kilome/Medina

[kinsmen7]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Theres a report out there now saying that the Nationals are interested in both Yelich and Realmuto and Miami isnt going to listen unless it involves Robles plus another top 5 prospect. Then add in inner division tax. Acuna and Albies is the going rate for both.

Also just read a day or two ago that Philly is involved and the propsed asking price is Sixto Sanchez, Moniak, Alfaro plus a Kilome/Medina

Not to mention the fact that Miami gets more if they separate Realmuto and Yelich into two deals.

[adamj2281]

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Not to mention the fact that Miami gets more if they separate Realmuto and Yelich into two deals.

I agree with that, I would only trade for Yelich personally, I think an OF of Yelich, Ender and Acuna for the next 5 years will be pretty solid, although some RH power is still needed.

At the same time, if you can pull off a trade for both, you have a pretty low-cost nucleus for the next 3 -5 years, with money in 2019 to spend on bullpen and 3B if need be.

I started up a new franchise and made the Yelich trade, I think I sent back Allard/Pache/Wentz. That's #2, 7, and 9 of the top 10 prospects for the Braves.

[kenp86]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

I agree with that, I would only trade for Yelich personally, I think an OF of Yelich, Ender and Acuna for the next 5 years will be pretty solid, although some RH power is still needed.

At the same time, if you can pull off a trade for both, you have a pretty low-cost nucleus for the next 3 -5 years, with money in 2019 to spend on bullpen and 3B if need be.

I started up a new franchise and made the Yelich trade, I think I sent back Allard/Pache/Wentz. That's #2, 7, and 9 of the top 10 prospects for the Braves.

Got no gripe with that offer. Just if you were going for both it wouldve been a haul to give. But i made a Yelich trade with Atlanta as well and i had sent Ruiz, Soroka, Gohara and Waters

[adamj2281]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Got no gripe with that offer. Just if you were going for both it wouldve been a haul to give. But i made a Yelich trade with Atlanta as well and i had sent Ruiz, Soroka, Gohara and Waters

That works, although I'd hang on to Gohara, maybe just up Ruiz to Riley (which sounds like something Bowman just put out in a story).

[kenp86]

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That works, although I'd hang on to Gohara, maybe just up Ruiz to Riley (which sounds like something Bowman just put out in a story).

Ruiz is better than Riley by far in mine. In 1st offseason (doing irl FA moves and the slow offseason is killing me) hes a 74 overall and B pot

[GamecocksLaw17]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

I agree with that, I would only trade for Yelich personally, I think an OF of Yelich, Ender and Acuna for the next 5 years will be pretty solid, although some RH power is still needed.

At the same time, if you can pull off a trade for both, you have a pretty low-cost nucleus for the next 3 -5 years, with money in 2019 to spend on bullpen and 3B if need be.

I started up a new franchise and made the Yelich trade, I think I sent back Allard/Pache/Wentz. That's #2, 7, and 9 of the top 10 prospects for the Braves.

I haven't been on here in a hot minute, but that offer isn't close for Yelich and this is coming from a Braves fan.

I can show the surplus value math for why I say that if people care

[livinitup921]

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I am the diamondbacks in year 2. What prospects would I have to give up for Carter Capps? What they are willing to accept seems too little.

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[kenp86]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

I am the diamondbacks in year 2. What prospects would I have to give up for Carter Capps? What they are willing to accept seems too little.

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[Bard]

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Have a dozen baseballs and a pack of bazooka bubblegum?

For a controlled reliever?

What are his stats looking like in year 2? I assume he missed most of if not all of year 1?

Capps can be valuable, just depends how the game plays out.

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[livinitup921]

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For a controlled reliever?

What are his stats looking like in year 2? I assume he missed most of if not all of year 1?

Capps can be valuable, just depends how the game plays out.

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Year 1 he had a 2.50 ERA in 72 I kings with 88 Strikeouts..it's early in year 2. He has a 0.00 ERA in 4.2 innings with 6 Strikeouts

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[Bard]

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Year 1 he had a 2.50 ERA in 72 I kings with 88 Strikeouts..it's early in year 2. He has a 0.00 ERA in 4.2 innings with 6 Strikeouts

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Didn't realize he was an expiring contract now in your franchise. He could fetch a high C prospect. If it was the deadline and he was repeating what he was doing in year one he could easily fetch a B.

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[UNDERTAKER1215]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

So with two games left in the regular season, I'm already thinking about offseason moves I can make. I want to add a starter or two, another reliever, and a younger first baseman.

So the first trade candidate that came to mind was Jackie Bradley Jr. He has had a great season, batting .294 with 20 HR, 50 RBI, 75 R, 19 SB in 547 AB. Unfortunately, there aren't a ton of teams with a need for Bradley that would be willing to match the return, but the Diamondbacks were the standout. They are in the middle of the pack as far as the NL goes, and while Bradley isn't a big name star, he could be one of the missing pieces. They could also use a catcher that can hit for a decent average.

I was thinking maybe something like this...

Diamondbacks Receive: Jackie Bradley Jr., Christian Vazquez

Red Sox Receive: Shelby Milller, Archie Bradley, Branden Shipley

Both Miller (7-15, 180.2 IP, 138 K, 94 BB, 4.93 ERA, 1.57 WHIP) and Bradley (2-1, 19.1 IP, 19 K, 5 BB, 5.59 ERA, 1.24 WHIP) struggled this season, but Miller does come with a good track record (barring 2016), and with plenty of prospect depth and free agent options, Arizona could afford to lose Miller.

If this deal went through, Pollock would move to left with Bradley in center, and Peralta in right.

The next deal would be a combo of acquiring a young first baseman while also making a salary dump.

I want to try and dump Hanley, but I know only a select few teams have the "cap space" to take him on. Hanley did have a decent season, batting .273, with 24 HR, 83 RBI, 67 R, in 568 AB.

The Athletics stood out as an interesting option as they are obviously rebuilding but still willing to deal their young guys (ex. real life Healy trade).

So I came up with this...

Athletics Receive: Hanley Ramirez, Eduardo Rodriguez, Sam Travis

Red Sox Receive: Ryon Healy

Hanley can still obviously hit, so they take on the final two years of his deal while also receiving a nice young starter in the form of E-Rod, and a good 1B prospect in Travis. Healy was injured for a portion of the season but even when he came back, he didn't play a ton with Matt Olson receiving much of the playing time.

So after all is said and done, the Red Sox send out Jackie Bradley Jr., Hanley Ramirez, Eduardo Rodriguez, Christian Vazquez, and Sam Travis, and receive Shelby Miller, Archie Bradley, Ryon Healy, and Branden Shipley.

Thoughts?

EDIT:::
The only other team I considered for Bradley Jr. was the Cubs. They have Almora but he doesn't have the bat yet that JBJ does (in-game). I'm not sure of his value but could JBJ for Ian Happ and a reliever work or is that too much. Happ hit something like .187 in a decent work load this season but I don't put a ton of stock in debut seasons. If a deal went through with the Cubs, their outfield would be Schwarber, Bradley, Heyward, and Almora.

[Bard]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

So with two games left in the regular season, I'm already thinking about offseason moves I can make. I want to add a starter or two, another reliever, and a younger first baseman.

So the first trade candidate that came to mind was Jackie Bradley Jr. He has had a great season, batting .294 with 20 HR, 50 RBI, 75 R, 19 SB in 547 AB. Unfortunately, there aren't a ton of teams with a need for Bradley that would be willing to match the return, but the Diamondbacks were the standout. They are in the middle of the pack as far as the NL goes, and while Bradley isn't a big name star, he could be one of the missing pieces. They could also use a catcher that can hit for a decent average.

I was thinking maybe something like this...

Diamondbacks Receive: Jackie Bradley Jr., Christian Vazquez

Red Sox Receive: Shelby Milller, Archie Bradley, Branden Shipley

Both Miller (7-15, 180.2 IP, 138 K, 94 BB, 4.93 ERA, 1.57 WHIP) and Bradley (2-1, 19.1 IP, 19 K, 5 BB, 5.59 ERA, 1.24 WHIP) struggled this season, but Miller does come with a good track record (barring 2016), and with plenty of prospect depth and free agent options, Arizona could afford to lose Miller.

If this deal went through, Pollock would move to left with Bradley in center, and Peralta in right.

The next deal would be a combo of acquiring a young first baseman while also making a salary dump.

I want to try and dump Hanley, but I know only a select few teams have the "cap space" to take him on. Hanley did have a decent season, batting .273, with 24 HR, 83 RBI, 67 R, in 568 AB.

The Athletics stood out as an interesting option as they are obviously rebuilding but still willing to deal their young guys (ex. real life Healy trade).

So I came up with this...

Athletics Receive: Hanley Ramirez, Eduardo Rodriguez, Sam Travis

Red Sox Receive: Ryon Healy

Hanley can still obviously hit, so they take on the final two years of his deal while also receiving a nice young starter in the form of E-Rod, and a good 1B prospect in Travis. Healy was injured for a portion of the season but even when he came back, he didn't play a ton with Matt Olson receiving much of the playing time.

So after all is said and done, the Red Sox send out Jackie Bradley Jr., Hanley Ramirez, Eduardo Rodriguez, Christian Vazquez, and Sam Travis, and receive Shelby Miller, Archie Bradley, Ryon Healy, and Branden Shipley.

Thoughts?

EDIT:::
The only other team I considered for Bradley Jr. was the Cubs. They have Almora but he doesn't have the bat yet that JBJ does (in-game). I'm not sure of his value but could JBJ for Ian Happ and a reliever work or is that too much. Happ hit something like .187 in a decent work load this season but I don't put a ton of stock in debut seasons. If a deal went through with the Cubs, their outfield would be Schwarber, Bradley, Heyward, and Almora.

Alright man. I decided to tackle this with some numbers.

Player Value:
Shelby Miller - 25.2
Archie Bradley - 72
Braden Shipley - toss in

Jackie Bradley Jr. - 81
Christian Vazquez - 27

Projected WAR per year x contract length x $9 million per 1 WAR

That deal looks good to me. Arizona has tons of arms, and I'm sure they can keep finding arms to contribute especially after all of these guys didn't really help them anyway in 2017 in your franchise. They get three years for both Christian and Bradley.

Player Value:
Hanley Ramirez - ~9 (took 3 year average, 1.09 WAR)
Eduardo Rodriguez - 72
Sam Travis - 12

Ryon Healy - 57.6

Oakland is clearly winning this trade, but I would also adjust it. They don't need Sam Travis. I would subsitue, and put in Blake Swihart or even a reliever that is under control. Oakland takes on the final year of Hanley's contract which is very uncharacteristic of them, but in return they get Eduardo Rodriguez, a former top prospect that is under control, and another player that is under control for a player they don't have a spot for.


Both pass my test!

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[kenp86]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Would a Ellsbury to Arizona for Tomas happen? Shorter contract on Tomas i believe at significantly lower money. Arizona gets a player theyll actually use and i think could be successful there

Also, would a Godly to STL for Tyler O'Neill work?