How do franchise budgets work this year?

[disk]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

Interesting that they show your pending offers in total value but don't show you your total budget, this seems like something they will iron out.

On a side note has anyone else noticed their renewable FAs being released at the Dec 2nd deadline? Playing through a White Sox franchise and left Moncada's contract until Feb 15th so I could get him cheap (he wanted 2.5 mil with his 86 days of service...) but he was released to the FA pool and signed by the Cubs. Did I just completely miss something or is this just another early wrinkle that needs some attention?

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

Interesting that they show your pending offers in total value but don't show you your total budget, this seems like something they will iron out.

On a side note has anyone else noticed their renewable FAs being released at the Dec 2nd deadline? Playing through a White Sox franchise and left Moncada's contract until Feb 15th so I could get him cheap (he wanted 2.5 mil with his 86 days of service...) but he was released to the FA pool and signed by the Cubs. Did I just completely miss something or is this just another early wrinkle that needs some attention?

Haven't had a chance to play yet...busy finishing the basement, but did you offer a contract?

If you didn't offer a contract then they are released.

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[SoxFan1791]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

I was just thinking this the other day. I went into free agency and I had absolutely no idea how much money I had to spend on free agents. I hope a fix is in the works.

I also sent The Show support an email at [email protected]

As well as San Diego Studios at [email protected]

Maybe if we all send them a message a fix will happen relatively soon.

[cptnwright]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

Interesting that they show your pending offers in total value but don't show you your total budget, this seems like something they will iron out.

On a side note has anyone else noticed their renewable FAs being released at the Dec 2nd deadline? Playing through a White Sox franchise and left Moncada's contract until Feb 15th so I could get him cheap (he wanted 2.5 mil with his 86 days of service...) but he was released to the FA pool and signed by the Cubs. Did I just completely miss something or is this just another early wrinkle that needs some attention?

You have to offer a contract to a renewable contract player before that date (it can be 100K, but it needs to be offered) otherwise the player becomes an unrestricted free agent. At least that is what I believe

[cptnwright]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

Ok so I think I might have figured it out. If it works the way my very brief math has determined this is one of the most realistic budget systems in anything short of some very deep sport simulation. So far I only ran three test seasons (limited on time) and used comparisons to compare them and try to discern answers.

Simply: Your bank is dumped into you team revenue after the WS each season, but how much of that bank is determined by the performance of your team.

More complex answer (be warned a lot of numbers and basic math):

Team 1 - Mets (102 - 60) - Lost WS

Total Bank: 39M
Gross Bank: 35
Change in Weekly Team Revenue: 0.8M
Increased: 5.4 to 6.2
Received 20M (0.8 times 26 weeks)

That is ~57% of the dumped 35M from the bank


Team 2 - Phil (71-91)

Total Bank: 30M
Gross Bank: 25
Change in Weekly Team Revenue: 0.4M
Increased: 3.9 to 4.3
Received 10M (0.4 times 26 weeks)

That is ~40% of the dumped 35M from the bank

Team 3 - Phil (63-99)

Total Bank: 45M
Gross Bank: 40M
Change in Weekly Team Revenue: 0.6M
Increased: 3.6 to 4.3
Received 15M (0.6 times 26 weeks)

That is ~37.5% of the dumped 35M from the bank


Now going one step further is seems that the percentage of the bank you keep is based on 8 games = 2.5%, plus each winning postseason series equaling 2.5% as well.

"Phil 2" lost 8 more games than "Phil 1" and as such recieved 2.5 less

Mets won 41 more game, which is 12.5%. Plus 2.5 for NLDS and 2.5 for NLCS. Total precent increase is 17.5%. Which is confirmed by the Mets receiving 17.5% more of the remaining Bank account (57 - 40 = 17).


I know I did not do a great job of explaining it, and this requires more testing but I wanted to gwet my findings out there for people to work with or prove wrong. If you have any questions regarding this I am more than willing to answer.

[seasprite]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

I hate math.....................

[Maverick09]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

Ok so I think I might have figured it out. If it works the way my very brief math has determined this is one of the most realistic budget systems in anything short of some very deep sport simulation. So far I only ran three test seasons (limited on time) and used comparisons to compare them and try to discern answers.

Simply: Your bank is dumped into you team revenue after the WS each season, but how much of that bank is determined by the performance of your team.

More complex answer (be warned a lot of numbers and basic math):

Team 1 - Mets (102 - 60) - Lost WS

Total Bank: 39M
Gross Bank: 35
Change in Weekly Team Revenue: 0.8M
Increased: 5.4 to 6.2
Received 20M (0.8 times 26 weeks)

That is ~57% of the dumped 35M from the bank


Team 2 - Phil (71-91)

Total Bank: 30M
Gross Bank: 25
Change in Weekly Team Revenue: 0.4M
Increased: 3.9 to 4.3
Received 10M (0.4 times 26 weeks)

That is ~40% of the dumped 35M from the bank

Team 3 - Phil (63-99)

Total Bank: 45M
Gross Bank: 40M
Change in Weekly Team Revenue: 0.6M
Increased: 3.6 to 4.3
Received 15M (0.6 times 26 weeks)

That is ~37.5% of the dumped 35M from the bank


Now going one step further is seems that the percentage of the bank you keep is based on 8 games = 2.5%, plus each winning postseason series equaling 2.5% as well.

"Phil 2" lost 8 more games than "Phil 1" and as such recieved 2.5 less

Mets won 41 more game, which is 12.5%. Plus 2.5 for NLDS and 2.5 for NLCS. Total precent increase is 17.5%. Which is confirmed by the Mets receiving 17.5% more of the remaining Bank account (57 - 40 = 17).


I know I did not do a great job of explaining it, and this requires more testing but I wanted to gwet my findings out there for people to work with or prove wrong. If you have any questions regarding this I am more than willing to answer.

They definitely mentioned in one of their streams that revenues are impacted by team performance (more ticket sales), and that playoff appearances generated additional revenue for teams that make it there.

I agree that's it's a bit difficult to make sense how how much money exactly each team has to work with, however I absolutely love how dynamic the budgets are this year! I'll have to dig deeper into how budgets actually work.

[disk]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

Well duh, I guess I am a little rusty as I haven't touched franchise in 16 since the season ended... ooops, thanks for the responses guys.

And if this is how they are doing budgets good on them for making it more complicated but I would still like it to show my total budget left.

[zippy2212]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

This. I'm not conerned with how the "owner" determines the money I have to spend. I just want to know what that amount is on a yearly basis.

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[SoxFan1791]

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Still no word from either of the emails I sent. Hopefully they didn't get buried in the thousands of people complaining about the servers.

[KayOtic723]

How do franchise budgets work this year?

After running a couple of test franchise so I can do FA and re-singing players...I figured out that the best thing to do is sign your big contracts first DO NOT SING MINORS unless they are your top prospects. Next go to your roster screen and cut the people that you know you don't want to keep (rule of thumb you want about 4 people at each position about 10 starting pitchers and 12 relievers total you can sign career minor leaguers late in the offseason) cut the dead weight. Do all this within the first 5 days of the offseason. Note that you will see your pending contracts at 0 if you follow this. That's a great thing. Now go after the FA you want taking into consideration your team total amount of money to spend. After you sign the FAs you want use the rest of the money to sign your minor leaguers after the Dec 2nd date. You can really wait all the way after the rule 5 draft. Hope this helps

Step by Step

Player Type A (28 and younger players,up and coming key players)
Sign these players first!




This is the screen to pay most attention to the max offer per year goes down. As your budget goes up once you started to sign your key FAs you will see that max offer be around 400k-800k depending on how many contracts you have to offer



(Tip: if you have players that service time is renewable you can sign them for way less saves a lot of money only offer about 1 or maybe 2 players the 3-5 range salary if there your franchise players other wise wait also helps when you want to trade a good player if he has a lower salary)



You can literally sign these type of players for pennies



I wouldn't suggest signing them for this low amount because his moral would take a big hit but the 840k he is asking for isn't bad if you offered 750k

Player type B (29 and up players, that still are a big part of your team)



These players will cost you the most there are two ways to handle players that are arbitration eligible and it depends on your needs

Way 1: offer arbitration for a player that you are not sure or know you will only need for another year



I offer usually a half or a mil more than the salary the made last year

Way 2: if you know that you want this player on your team for more than one year offer the player 2-4 years I wouldn't go past 2 personally because of player regression and it cost less if you stay below 3 years



Player type 3 (31+ year old vets, these players will cost you the second most and have a high rate of regression I would only sign them to a year by year deals and evaluate at the end of each year)



Most of the time depending on player overall these players want between 2.5mil all the way up to 10mil if your talking about a player Like
yadier molina

(Tip: let's say I did have Molina and I wanted to keep him I would only make that decision if my team didn't need to sign a lot of FAs to fill holes and I am competing for a championship another thing you can do is sign Molina. Then wait till Free agency starts if you see someone at the same position for this example Catcher that will fill your needs and you want to sign him you can trade that Molina contract away for prospect and sign his replacement)



Player type 4 (Top Prospect under 25, A or B pot players)



Straight forward in simple they can only sign for 1 year and if they are really good I over pay them by about 20-30k because it helps their moral



Player type 5 (life long minor leaguers)



Same as your top prospects 1 year deal for around 60-80k

Nobody will sign this players in FAs and you can wait till after Dec 2nd to sign these players

[TattooedEvil]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

what i think is that one of those super smart guys with like 5 masters degrees did this and thinks us normal ppl would figure it out haha. i may take time in a couple days to dig in and figure out how to figure out how much room u really have w/o going to the scouting screen. BUT i made sure to give myself the best chance to get the most money possible but spending the stubs to get max money for Saves, Ks and SBs....im basically going to try and assemble the fastest team possible.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

I just had a chance to play with the game this morning briefly.

I have always had a pretty good grasp of the financials and budget system, but I don't seem to understand this year's.

When offering players contracts I'm not seeing where my budget is or how much I have left.

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[ktd1976]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

I just had a chance to play with the game this morning briefly.

I have always had a pretty good grasp of the financials and budget system, but I don't seem to understand this year's.

When offering players contracts I'm not seeing where my budget is or how much I have left.

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You aren't seeing how much you have left for the year, because the Game doesn't deal with yearly budgets, they are weekly.

I think I have it roughly figured out.

When in the CONTRACTS screen (such as when signing a free agent) look at your max offer (number at the bottom left.) This is your max offer, which is the TOTAL amount of budget room you have to spend. There are roughly 26 weeks in the MLB season. So, to figure out the TOTAL amount of free budget space for the year, you must multiply this by 26. Thus, if you have 555K budget space per week, that would be about 14.4M total budget room for the season.

Until we get used to the new weekly system, it will cause a lot of confusion. But, I think it looks a lot more confusing than it really is, because we have been "trained" for years that the budgets are "yearly" and now they are "weekly" even though it is roughly the same.

[MLBfanatic97]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

I just had a chance to play with the game this morning briefly.

I have always had a pretty good grasp of the financials and budget system, but I don't seem to understand this year's.

When offering players contracts I'm not seeing where my budget is or how much I have left.

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So what I gathered from this thread is that we've moved away from having a set budget to now relying on our cash flow as the measurement of the money we have. As long as we keep our cash flow positive, we have money to spend.

A player making $2.5M a season in game makes about $95k a week, so if I'm correct, maintaining a cash flow of $95k a week will translate to an extra $2.5M in the bank over the course of the year, so with some multiplication, $475k a week is $12.5M in the bank at the end of the year, a cash flow of $950k a week is $25M in the bank, and so on. It seems as though you don't get all of it based on this post (http://www.operationsports.com/forum...p?p=2048762949), but instead you get extra money depending on your team performance.

Also i'm assuming the cash flow fluctuates in season based on performance because as the season goes on, your cash flow increases as you do well and decreases as you struggle, so it's constantly changing.

So at the end of the day, keep the cash flow positive, preferably over $500k/week to get consistent bumps in your available money. Checking your bank at the end of the regular season will give you the amount you've made over the year and from that you can gauge how well you did (or if you won 110 games but only have $12.5M in the bank, you might need to shed salary).








Or something like that, I guess.

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