How do franchise budgets work this year?

[BigOscar]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

Really not that hard just think of your max offer as your total amount of money you can spend as your max offer goes down the less you can spend it is way easier then last year budget


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Last year it would tell you you have $12m left in your yearly budget, so if you offer a guy $3m, you will have $9m left. This year, it tells you you have a Max Offer of $460,0 00, so do you want to offer someone $3m a year? There is no way that's easier. I have to work out what that $3m a year actually means a week in order to know if I want to do that (about $115k by my maths), rather than just be able to see.

It's trading in two different time frames, it makes no sense. If you're only going to let us see our budget by the week, then make contracts by the week. Or, even more obvious, just let us see both

[KayOtic723]

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Your max offer won't go down by that much if you want to offer someone 3mil it does all the math for you move the amount you are offering up then your max offer goes down move it down your max offer goes up. Last year if I wanted to sign all my FA and make an offer to other teams FA I had to always buy more budget running 4 test chise I haven't had to do it once I think the problem is people are over complicating things. If you have anywhere from 4-6 mil max offer you have a lot of money to spend that offseason it will take time for people to understand it yes but once you simplify it you will see how easy it is to work.


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[fightingirish595]

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Your max offer won't go down by that much if you want to offer someone 3mil it does all the math for you move the amount you are offering up then your max offer goes down move it down your max offer goes up. Last year if I wanted to sign all my FA and make an offer to other teams FA I had to always buy more budget running 4 test chise I haven't had to do it once I think the problem is people are over complicating things. If you have anywhere from 4-6 mil max offer you have a lot of money to spend that offseason it will take time for people to understand it yes but once you simplify it you will see how easy it is to work.


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So any ideas why my max offer is 1.35 mil and I offer a contract that is .35 mil but then it says I can't afford it when I go to the next day

[fightingirish595]

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I think the game actually does a decent job at telling you figures when you sign a player. You can see how much the player makes a year, your payroll before and after, and your cash flow before and after

[KayOtic723]

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So any ideas why my max offer is 1.35 mil and I offer a contract that is .35 mil but then it says I can't afford it when I go to the next day

Do have pending players eligible for arbitration or contract renewal? I have a detailed way step by step to go through the offseason so you won't run out of money if you have 1.35 max offer and only 50 people signed to your team you gotta spread it out to fill the required players. What's the date? Are you passed the rule 5 draft?


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[fightingirish595]

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Do have pending players eligible for arbitration or contract renewal? I have a detailed way step by step to go through the offseason so you won't run out of money if you have 1.35 max offer and only 50 people signed to your team you gotta spread it out to fill the required players. What's the date? Are you passed the rule 5 draft?


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The date is just right after free agency starts. No pending offers. I squared away all the resignings I had too. I have a post 2 pages back detailing my different tests

[tessl]

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Question - if I accumulate a surplus of cash during the season does it carry over to the off season or do I lose it at the end of the season?

[rtwilli4]

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Question - if I accumulate a surplus of cash during the season does it carry over to the off season or do I lose it at the end of the season?

The bank gets reset to 5mil before the offseason starts. But that extra money you accumulated gets added to "team revenue" which affects your spending power during the offseason.

I can't tell you exactly how the math works but I know that your performance affects your "team revenue"

I just simmed 2017 with the Braves. They won about 65 games and accumulated about 24mil in the bank. Their team revenue went from 4.5mil at the end of regular season to 5mil at the beginning of the offseason.

Then I started over and chose the Braves again. I raised all players to 99 overall. They won 100 games and made it to the World Series. They had 32mil in the bank at end of reg season and 36mil at end of post season.

Their team revenue was 5mil at end of regular season (500k higher than the 65 win team) and 5.9mil at beginning of regular season (900k higher than the 65 win team).

So basically the competitive team had more money to spend at the trade deadline and even more money to spend in the off season.

I think it would make more sense if all the extra money just sat in the bank because if you've already saved it from previous weeks, it's not really "revenue." But this new system has more detail than 2016 and you don't just get arbitrary increases.

Now the question is, are the increases still too large? I continued on the default rated franchise (65 win team) into 2019. My contract expired with the Braves and I was offered contracts by 4 teams. All team budgets were over $140mil for 2020 season, including the Royals and Mariners.







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[rtwilli4]

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So... I just checked and $140mil is about the league average for 2017 so it's totally realistic for most teams to be at or above that level for the 2020 season.

Pretty excited about this new system even though it could have been laid out better.

Hope it's just the beginning of a much deeper budget system for 2018.


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[tessl]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

The bank gets reset to 5mil before the offseason starts. But that extra money you accumulated gets added to "team revenue" which affects your spending power during the offseason.

I can't tell you exactly how the math works but I know that your performance affects your "team revenue"

I just simmed 2017 with the Braves. They won about 65 games and accumulated about 24mil in the bank. Their team revenue went from 4.5mil at the end of regular season to 5mil at the beginning of the offseason.

Then I started over and chose the Braves again. I raised all players to 99 overall. They won 100 games and made it to the World Series. They had 32mil in the bank at end of reg season and 36mil at end of post season.

Their team revenue was 5mil at end of regular season (500k higher than the 65 win team) and 5.9mil at beginning of regular season (900k higher than the 65 win team).

So basically the competitive team had more money to spend at the trade deadline and even more money to spend in the off season.

I think it would make more sense if all the extra money just sat in the bank because if you've already saved it from previous weeks, it's not really "revenue." But this new system has more detail than 2016 and you don't just get arbitrary increases.

Now the question is, are the increases still too large? I continued on the default rated franchise (65 win team) into 2019. My contract expired with the Braves and I was offered contracts by 4 teams. All team budgets were over $140mil for 2020 season, including the Royals and Mariners.







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Thanks for the reply. I use a low payroll team in my franchise for the challenge but it sounds like in two or three years every team is fat with cash.

[rtwilli4]

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Thanks for the reply. I use a low payroll team in my franchise for the challenge but it sounds like in two or three years every team is fat with cash.

It might be better than The Show '16 but Budget still seems to grow somewhat arbitrarily for the under-performing teams.

Braves budget increased by more than 10% after a 65 win season. Of course this is possible but if it happens every year then after a few seasons there is a lot of cash floating around.

But the big market teams will still have more power. I tried to sign Harper and Machado with the Braves and they signed elsewhere, even though I had the budget to make a good offer.




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[Nolove626]

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The date is just right after free agency starts. No pending offers. I squared away all the resignings I had too. I have a post 2 pages back detailing my different tests

I found a great tip from someone on this forum that has really helped me out. Right after you enter free agency (after you've already made offers to everyone you plan on keeping) got to your roster management and release everybody you plan on letting go. For some reason this works and I have been able to sign pretty much at least two guys I want every year. I think the game counts potential deals against your budget until the deadline where everyone becomes a free agent (December 2nd I think)

[Hugh Jars]

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I actually really like the budget system this year. Main reason I do is because you have to make smart financial decisions as the year progresses based on your performance as opposed to just waiting to the end of the year. Its an incentive to not tank if you cant reach the play-offs, and keep your team performing as well as it can. It facilitates the sell-off and rebuild model.


Its 2018 and my Dodgers have a world series championship hangover. They are 4th in the division mid-May and my cash flow dipped into the negatives. I had to trade a couple of players on big long term deals to get back in black. Post season chances look pretty grim, so trading in good prospects can only be a good thing. I think Maeda will be gone by the trade deadline cos he's holding my depth back. I have only crabs to fill in holes when the MLB roster gets injured, and its already hurt us this season.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

I actually really like the budget system this year. Main reason I do is because you have to make smart financial decisions as the year progresses based on your performance as opposed to just waiting to the end of the year. Its an incentive to not tank if you cant reach the play-offs, and keep your team performing as well as it can. It facilitates the sell-off and rebuild model.


Its 2018 and my Dodgers have a world series championship hangover. They are 4th in the division mid-May and my cash flow dipped into the negatives. I had to trade a couple of players on big long term deals to get back in black. Post season chances look pretty grim, so trading in good prospects can only be a good thing. I think Maeda will be gone by the trade deadline cos he's holding my depth back. I have only crabs to fill in holes when the MLB roster gets injured, and its already hurt us this season.

That may be the case, but maybe I'm missing something, but I can't tell how the cash flow is added to the budget and what my total budget is.

Right now there is multiple measurements of cash flow, weekly and yearly. In the off-season I can't tell if the budget increases or not. It is really confusing and cumbersome.

If they had cash flow and showed the total budget then added that cash flow to the budget in the off-season I could agree.

So I start with 120mil budget have a positive cash flow of 6 million. In the off-season I would have a 126 million budget.

Right now I don't see that being the case. I don't see exactly what my yearly budget is.

In the past budget was also supposed to be dependent on performance, which never worked correctly.

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[tessl]

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That may be the case, but maybe I'm missing something, but I can't tell how the cash flow is added to the budget and what my total budget is.

Right now there is multiple measurements of cash flow, weekly and yearly. In the off-season I can't tell if the budget increases or not. It is really confusing and cumbersome.

If they had cash flow and showed the total budget then added that cash flow to the budget in the off-season I could agree.

So I start with 120mil budget have a positive cash flow of 6 million. In the off-season I would have a 126 million budget.

Right now I don't see that being the case. I don't see exactly what my yearly budget is.

In the past budget was also supposed to be dependent on performance, which never worked correctly.

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That's the needlessly confusing part. Salaries for players, coaches and scouts are yearly but my income is weekly. I'd prefer to have both weekly and yearly displayed and something indicating how much I'm making per home game.

Instead of placating the sim community with things like quick manage and critical situations they could have made franchise deeper. Things like field maintenance cost, medical and training facilities cost/benefit. I don't even use sponsorships because the cpu teams don't get them so it is an unfair advantage to the user controlled team which is a ridiculous oversight. Why would they add sponsorships and then not provide them to the cpu teams? I also believe their metadata doesn't come close to capturing everybody who plays franchise because a lot of us play offline.

Someone is steering them in the wrong direction with franchise mode. There is a lot of untapped potential.