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  • ktd1976
    MVP
    • Mar 2006
    • 1940

    #76
    Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

    Originally posted by tessl
    That's the needlessly confusing part. Salaries for players, coaches and scouts are yearly but my income is weekly. I'd prefer to have both weekly and yearly displayed and something indicating how much I'm making per home game.

    Instead of placating the sim community with things like quick manage and critical situations they could have made franchise deeper. Things like field maintenance cost, medical and training facilities cost/benefit. I don't even use sponsorships because the cpu teams don't get them so it is an unfair advantage to the user controlled team which is a ridiculous oversight. Why would they add sponsorships and then not provide them to the cpu teams? I also believe their metadata doesn't come close to capturing everybody who plays franchise because a lot of us play offline.

    Someone is steering them in the wrong direction with franchise mode. There is a lot of untapped potential.
    Actually, salaries for players are also weekly. When you sign a player, it shows the total contract for the year, plus the weekly breakdown (over 26 weeks of the Baseball season)

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    • Caulfield
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 10986

      #77
      Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

      Originally posted by tessl
      I also believe their metadata doesn't come close to capturing everybody who plays franchise because a lot of us play offline.

      Someone is steering them in the wrong direction with franchise mode. There is a lot of untapped potential.
      the info they're getting could be flawed if only for the reason that so much is flawed with anything connected to sonys online servers.
      and a lot of times that I play, I'm even disconnected from online.
      I think theres been a subtle shift for SCEA, starting back when they became SIE.
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      • Hugh Jars
        Rookie
        • May 2017
        • 34

        #78
        Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

        Originally posted by tabarnes19
        That may be the case, but maybe I'm missing something, but I can't tell how the cash flow is added to the budget and what my total budget is.

        Right now there is multiple measurements of cash flow, weekly and yearly. In the off-season I can't tell if the budget increases or not. It is really confusing and cumbersome.

        If they had cash flow and showed the total budget then added that cash flow to the budget in the off-season I could agree.

        So I start with 120mil budget have a positive cash flow of 6 million. In the off-season I would have a 126 million budget.

        Right now I don't see that being the case. I don't see exactly what my yearly budget is.

        In the past budget was also supposed to be dependent on performance, which never worked correctly.

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        I dont get whats confusing about it to be honest. You have a max offer amount which if you multiply by 26 will give you your team's bank balance. Stay in the black during the season and your 'owner' will give you a proportionally increased amount to spend at the end of the season. Stay in the red and your owner will give you less to spend than last season. Your weekly cash in/out amount is dependent on the size of your player/coach salaries and other fluid factors like revenue sharing which will fluctuate with team performance.

        My dodgers are hovering around the +125k/week at the moment - not a big figure considering its the Dodgers but thats because so much money is tied up in big contracts with players like Kershaw, Jansen and Maeda. This means Ill get a crap all increase to my total budget at the end of the year. If my team is out of the play-off race then Ill make some trades to increase this amount markedly and have room to get a free agent or two for next season.

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        • Hugh Jars
          Rookie
          • May 2017
          • 34

          #79
          Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

          Originally posted by tessl
          That's the needlessly confusing part. Salaries for players, coaches and scouts are yearly but my income is weekly. I'd prefer to have both weekly and yearly displayed and something indicating how much I'm making per home game.

          Instead of placating the sim community with things like quick manage and critical situations they could have made franchise deeper. Things like field maintenance cost, medical and training facilities cost/benefit. I don't even use sponsorships because the cpu teams don't get them so it is an unfair advantage to the user controlled team which is a ridiculous oversight. Why would they add sponsorships and then not provide them to the cpu teams? I also believe their metadata doesn't come close to capturing everybody who plays franchise because a lot of us play offline.

          Someone is steering them in the wrong direction with franchise mode. There is a lot of untapped potential.


          Yeah I agree the sponsorships and being able to buy money for the bank with stubs is a complete crock of ****. And the missions too.

          Quick manage I love.

          Ideally Id love to see a franchise simulation with all the detail of OOTP but the ease of use of mlb the show 17

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          • tessl
            All Star
            • Apr 2007
            • 5684

            #80
            Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

            Originally posted by ktd1976
            Actually, salaries for players are also weekly. When you sign a player, it shows the total contract for the year, plus the weekly breakdown (over 26 weeks of the Baseball season)
            On both manage roster and player card it lists annual.

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            • mbrowner8782
              Rookie
              • Jan 2017
              • 9

              #81
              Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

              Originally posted by tessl
              On both manage roster and player card it lists annual.


              But when you are trying to sign a player, it shows you both the weekly and yearly amount, which is when you need to see it most. This allows to quickly learn how much your weekly amount will decrease if you sign the player.


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              • tessl
                All Star
                • Apr 2007
                • 5684

                #82
                Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

                Originally posted by mbrowner8782
                But when you are trying to sign a player, it shows you both the weekly and yearly amount, which is when you need to see it most. This allows to quickly learn how much your weekly amount will decrease if you sign the player.


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                That's good but it is also needed during the season if you are trying to trade for a more expensive player and are close to the budget limit or conversely unload an expensive player to create budget room. If they were going to change it to weekly they should have changed it everywhere.

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                • mbrowner8782
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 9

                  #83
                  Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

                  Originally posted by tessl
                  That's good but it is also needed during the season if you are trying to trade for a more expensive player and are close to the budget limit or conversely unload an expensive player to create budget room. If they were going to change it to weekly they should have changed it everywhere.


                  It also shows their weekly salary on the trade screen. Under your team's name and players you are trying to trade, it shows the increase/decrease to your weekly salary if you agree to the trade. It also shows what your new max offer amount would be.


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                  • tessl
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 5684

                    #84
                    Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

                    Originally posted by Caulfield
                    the info they're getting could be flawed if only for the reason that so much is flawed with anything connected to sonys online servers.
                    and a lot of times that I play, I'm even disconnected from online.
                    I think theres been a subtle shift for SCEA, starting back when they became SIE.
                    In MLBTS 17 I've played about 50 games in offline franchise full count full game and when I go to the "official forum" it shows I've played 6 hours. I firmly believe their metadata greatly underestimates the number of hours people spend playing offline franchise.

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                    • mbrowner8782
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 9

                      #85
                      Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

                      Originally posted by tessl
                      That's good but it is also needed during the season if you are trying to trade for a more expensive player and are close to the budget limit or conversely unload an expensive player to create budget room. If they were going to change it to weekly they should have changed it everywhere.


                      However, I do agree that they should have changed it everywhere.


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                      • Caulfield
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10986

                        #86
                        Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

                        [QUOTE=Hugh Jars;2048822959]I dont get whats confusing about it to be honest. You have a max offer amount which if you multiply by 26 will give you your team's bank balance. Stay in the black during the season and your 'owner' will give you a proportionally increased amount to spend at the end of the season. Stay in the red and your owner will give you less to spend than last season. Your weekly cash in/out amount is dependent on the size of your player/coach salaries and other fluid factors like revenue sharing which will fluctuate with team performance.

                        /QUOTE]
                        1) now compare this ^ explanation vs. how it was last year.
                        2) quick, in 2 seconds or less, calculate 26X120,000, no calculator.
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                        • kac
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 530

                          #87
                          Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

                          Just show me a number of how much money I have to spend that's it everything else is to much work for a video game.

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                          • tabarnes19_SDS
                            Game Designer
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 3084

                            #88
                            Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

                            In the past you knew exactly what the budget was. You may have started with 150 million budget and used 140. In the off-season you were increased or decreased and knew the budget amount.

                            I can not for the life of me see what my budget is. I can see what I have spent, but not what I can spend.

                            The In season cash flow vs expense always has a positive. If that is based on weekly for 26 weeks then every team has 26 million plus to spend. Since I am in 2021 and see every team with a million plus revenue stream.



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                            • Icedburden
                              Just started!
                              • Aug 2016
                              • 4

                              #89
                              Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

                              So I've reached the year 2070 in offline mode. I've won 32 World Series, won all but 3 division titles, several MVP's and Cy Youngs. My budget for my team HAS GONE DOWN by 10 million dollars. I'm done buying these games until they figure out how to fix this game. I bought stubs as an experiment and purchased the 20 million franchise increase. It worked for a season and then, poof, it was gone. My budget back to normal.

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                              • Caulfield
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 10986

                                #90
                                Re: How do franchise budgets work this year?

                                Originally posted by Icedburden
                                So I've reached the year 2070 in offline mode. I've won 32 World Series, won all but 3 division titles, several MVP's and Cy Youngs. My budget for my team HAS GONE DOWN by 10 million dollars. I'm done buying these games until they figure out how to fix this game. I bought stubs as an experiment and purchased the 20 million franchise increase. It worked for a season and then, poof, it was gone. My budget back to normal.
                                to be fair, money will be obsolete, after all, in 2070. 'bots on 'roids will play the game just for the love of it and will need no compensation. on the down side those same 'bots will still need Tommy John Surgery and umps will still be human albeit zombified, as working with 'bots will be the only occupation they can have, otherwise they'd try to eat to eat the players. and the Cubs will be almost halfway to their first championship since 2016.

                                but srsly,that does stink about the budgets
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