CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

[djep]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

No, he isn't the sole person saying that. I have been saying that all along as well. I am seeing the quick pulls of starters in NON QC games as well.

Same here - play every pitch and this is most definitely an issue I am seeing.

This should be easily fixable in a patch so I'm just trying to work around it till that comes out.

[EWRMETS]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I know he isn't the ONLY person, but many who are playing full counts (myself included) aren't seeing it as a problem in game (sim results are still up for discussion).

It would be helpful to see the situations (pitch count, pitcher stats, score) where full count players are seeing the issue.

[underdog13]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Shouldn't we care more about pitcher stamina than pitch counts?

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[KnightTemplar]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Shouldn't we care more about pitcher stamina than pitch counts?

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I maxed out SPs to 99 stamina (simmed a month). Didn't matter. When it came to the 5th inning, if there were 0 runs scored the pitcher got yanked. But it doesn't explain why it's happening in simmed games.

I simmed some stuff this morning (with the stock edits) and same thing.

I don't believe it's QC (which is what I play on, but yes, the other teams SP will get yanked.....when his team has scored 0 runs in 5 innings, sometimes at 4.2, 4.1 innings, etc)

I've let the dev Brian know to see if he can check into this.

I'd like to see someone else run this test. Sim a month, go back into the box scores and where you see a teams SP removed at 5 innings, look at the line score. I'm certain you are going to see 0 0 0 0 0 regardless of how well he's pitching.

[EWRMETS]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I maxed out SPs to 99 stamina (simmed a month). Didn't matter. When it came to the 5th inning, if there were 0 runs scored the pitcher got yanked. But it doesn't explain why it's happening in simmed games.

I simmed some stuff this morning (with the stock edits) and same thing.

I don't believe it's QC (which is what I play on, but yes, the other teams SP will get yanked.....when his team has scored 0 runs in 5 innings, sometimes at 4.2, 4.1 innings, etc)

I've let the dev Brian know to see if he can check into this.

I'd like to see someone else run this test. Sim a month, go back into the box scores and where you see a teams SP removed at 5 innings, look at the line score. I'm certain you are going to see 0 0 0 0 0 regardless of how well he's pitching.

You can give up 0 runs in 5 innings and still throw 100 pitches.

[oldtimey]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Just put it back to what M16 was. I think that would make the majority of us franchise players happy. It's never gonna be perfect. But it can be far more realistic.

I am currently playing MLB the show 16 with an end of the season roster that I updated during the winter and thru spring training. I downloaded MLB the show 16 for $20.00 for the ps3 because I don't own a ps4. With my sliders and adjustments to pitchers' stamina rating, I am getting very realistic results. After the last patch of 16, there is a noticeable change in emphasis on lefty/right match ups. The other noticeable change was that closers are being used in non-save situations when they haven't been used in awhile. I saw a closer brought in when his team was up 10-2! Also, closers are brought in more when the game is tied in the ninth.

I am with you...I wished they had left it alone. I prepared myself to watch and wait, because to play MLB the Show 17, I would have to buy a ps4. The Show is the only game I play...cpu-vs-cpu, 30-team franchise while waiting for the Cubs to break the curse in my universe. I am glad I waited. If this isn't fixed, MLB the Show 16 is the last Show I will play.

[KnightTemplar]

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You can give up 0 runs in 5 innings and still throw 100 pitches.

Yes. Will you run a test then and tell me what you're seeing. All these pitchers being pulled haven't thrown 100 pitches.

Run some tests.

I gotta get out of this thread. Said it before, but geez. I know a pitcher COULD throw 100 pitches in 5 innings, but I'm at least trying to come up with some kind of reason for you.

If you come up with a different theory, and that's all it is, then post it. If you are finding that all of these pitcher are throwing 100 pitches, then post it.

[XtremeDunkz]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I haven't had an y issues like this through 20 games. If anything they leave the starters in too long sometimes.

[squashbuggie]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I maxed out SPs to 99 stamina (simmed a month). Didn't matter. When it came to the 5th inning, if there were 0 runs scored the pitcher got yanked. But it doesn't explain why it's happening in simmed games.

I simmed some stuff this morning (with the stock edits) and same thing.

I don't believe it's QC (which is what I play on, but yes, the other teams SP will get yanked.....when his team has scored 0 runs in 5 innings, sometimes at 4.2, 4.1 innings, etc)

I've let the dev Brian know to see if he can check into this.

I'd like to see someone else run this test. Sim a month, go back into the box scores and where you see a teams SP removed at 5 innings, look at the line score. I'm certain you are going to see 0 0 0 0 0 regardless of how well he's pitching.

if you set quick sim sliders to 10/0/0 (starter stamina/reliever sta./manager hook) you will see better sim results. a SP with an 85-sta. rating, if his ERA is around 4.00 (avg.), he will average 5.5-IP per start. A guy like Price will be at 6.5-IP per start. I can show you video or screenshot proof of this as well. CG/SHO will be a bit high, but - lg. wide ERA for teams is still around 4.00.

[KnightTemplar]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

if you set quick sim sliders to 10/0/0 (starter stamina/reliever sta./manager hook) you will see better sim results. a SP with an 85-sta. rating, if his ERA is around 4.00 (avg.), he will average 5.5-IP per start. A guy like Price will be at 6.5-IP per start. I can show you video or screenshot proof of this as well. CG/SHO will be a bit high, but - lg. wide ERA for teams is still around 4.00.

See, you're actually running some tests. I know that SPs will stay in longer, that I saw when I maxed out stamina, however, what did you find in box scores where a SP was pulled in 5 innings? What I saw was that the stamina increase didn't mean a thing. 0 runs scored,pitcher yanked.

There's where the problem MAY be. I'm just finding it peculiar that the common denominator is 0 runs scored for that teams SP.

[ktd1976]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

You can give up 0 runs in 5 innings and still throw 100 pitches.

He is saying the Pitcher's team hasn't scored any runs when he is removed. Not that the pitcher hasn't given up any runs.

Meaning Team A's starter is removed after the 5th inning if HIS team hasn't scored any runs. Not if he hasn't given up any runs.

[cherman24]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Getting no hit by porcillo this morning losing 9-0. He was at 85 pitches...he didn't come back out for the 9th. Happy that they let him stay that long, but a head scratcher for that last inning.

I think pitcher stamina needs a look at personally or I need some major tweaking. Another game I was down 1-0 in the 4th with 2 out and the menu of getting a pinch hitter came up. I know some people aren't having issues, but I'm seeing it more often than not in my franchise controlling 2 teams.

[swenk16]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I adjusted the slider for "CPU Manager Hook" all the way to 0. I am not having this issue in RTTS, but while playing Player Lock in Franchise, it's 100%. Pitchers are going 5.0 innings or less every single time. I really hope they patch this.


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[Chai2112]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I am having this issue as well in my Franchise even with the Manager Hook slider set very low. They randomly pull pitchers who are at around 50 pitches even in a very close game. In one game they pull a pitcher who was no hitting me through 6 innings and he was only around 65 pitches. Hope they patch this up.

[joshearl]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I haven't noticed it in my franchise, I play every pitch in that. However I have noticed that there is a problem with my RTTS position player, I've been watching the innings pitched for the starters over the weekend, I've played maybe 30 games, not a single pitcher pitched more than 5 innings. I am only in AA though so that could be it.