CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

[zukes]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Ok. I am done. You guys have your own agenda and views on the subject. Obviously you are not open to any ideas except your own.

I personally am not having the issue, and I am certainly not going to waste any more of my time trying to help anybody else.

Have a great time and enjoy the game..... oh wait that's what I'm doing.

I think you may have stumbled onto the problem though. In the past in 16 and before I have found that if my starter threw 110 pitches or so, at the end of the game when they showed him as the player of the game it would say he threw 156 pitches. I think that had something to do with how they calculated the pictures so that the stamina would be correct as with the pitch count on quick accounts.

I wonder if it is as simple as them forgetting it to toggle this option

[ktd1976]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I think you may have stumbled onto the problem though. In the past in 16 and before I have found that if my starter threw 110 pitches or so, at the end of the game when they showed him as the player of the game it would say he threw 156 pitches. I think that had something to do with how they calculated the pictures so that the stamina would be correct as with the pitch count on quick accounts.

I wonder if it is as simple as them forgetting it to toggle this option

I don't think so, because I am seeing the same issues not using quick counts

[Boss Rousseau]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

???

Am I missing something here?

Everyone is all pumped for the fantastic work done on the Rosters but.. this is a GAME BREAKING bug.

Am I missing something? No one has mentioned a fix and everyone is experiencing it.

Playing against the CPU is totally broken unless I'm missing something. No reason to even try a franchise, very upset.

[Boss Rousseau]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

the reason I am confused is because there seems to be no outrage

this game is ruined.

[bcruise]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

For those who think this is not an issue, can you check other teams boxscores (at least a dozen)?
I see a lot of early pitcher changes in those boxscores.

I'll drop back in to respond to just this:

You're mixing the issues together (probably not intentionally). Sim game logic (which is what I assume you're describing when mentioning boxscores) is not the same as in-game logic. Just like quick counts is not the same as full in-game logic.

They are different, and that means that what's wrong with one side is not necessarily wrong with the others. I do actually agree with there being a noticeable quick hook in sim, quick manage and quick count games, and I think that's what's causing RP's to see more innings than they should. That's something I would like to see patched/tuned.

But that has no bearing on my observations in full games. It's apples and oranges.

[Boss Rousseau]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Really is amazing the bullpen logic this game has (not just this year), its so frustrating. This stuff wasn't an issue 17 years ago, now it is.

[ktd1976]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I'll drop back in to respond to just this:

You're mixing the issues together (probably not intentionally). Sim game logic (which is what I assume you're describing when mentioning boxscores) is not the same as in-game logic. Just like quick counts is not the same as full in-game logic.

They are different, and that means that what's wrong with one side is not necessarily wrong with the others. I do actually agree with there being a noticeable quick hook in sim, quick manage and quick count games, and I think that's what's causing RP's to see more innings than they should. That's something I would like to see patched/tuned.

But that has no bearing on my observations in full games. It's apples and oranges.

Except that some of us are experiencing this issue in full games as well.

I don't use quick counts. I play full games, and have yet to have a starter pitch into the 7th inning. And I am also experiencing the relievers being left in way too long (even with reliever stamina slider at 0)

[Boss Rousseau]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I'll drop back in to respond to just this:

You're mixing the issues together (probably not intentionally). Sim game logic (which is what I assume you're describing when mentioning boxscores) is not the same as in-game logic. Just like quick counts is not the same as full in-game logic.

They are different, and that means that what's wrong with one side is not necessarily wrong with the others. I do actually agree with there being a noticeable quick hook in sim, quick manage and quick count games, and I think that's what's causing RP's to see more innings than they should. That's something I would like to see patched/tuned.

But that has no bearing on my observations in full games. It's apples and oranges.

I apologize as I have obviously not read all 40 pages of this thread. Is this a total non issue in games that don't use quick counts?

I just play normally. No quick counts or any of that bull****.

[Hardworker33]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Except that some of us are experiencing this issue in full games as well.

I don't use quick counts. I play full games, and have yet to have a starter pitch into the 7th inning. And I am also experiencing the relievers being left in way too long (even with reliever stamina slider at 0)

Playing QC, I'd die to have a pitcher there until the 6th inning . On QC, 3-4IP is the max I've experienced.

[Boss Rousseau]

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Playing QC, I'd die to have a pitcher there until the 6th inning . On QC, 3-4IP is the max I've experienced.

I don't understand how people can play this way.

I must be in bizzaro world over here, this issue makes play vs CPU impossible for me.

[EWRMETS]

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I apologize as I have obviously not read all 40 pages of this thread. Is this a total non issue in games that don't use quick counts?

I just play normally. No quick counts or any of that bull****.

Why don't you actually play the game instead of posting multiple times that He game is broken. There is no issue with regular play. I've played a ton and have never seen an issue in close games or blowouts.

[Boss Rousseau]

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Why don't you actually play the game instead of posting multiple times that He game is broken. There is no issue with regular play. I've played a ton and have never seen an issue in close games or blowouts.

I understand its almost against the rules to bash the game on this message board, I apologize.

I've now gone back and seen that people have complained with this issue in regular play, so I'm not sure what to believe.

[ktd1976]

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Why don't you actually play the game instead of posting multiple times that He game is broken. There is no issue with regular play. I've played a ton and have never seen an issue in close games or blowouts.

Except that there are many of us, including myself, who ARE seeing this issue in regular games with no quick count.....

[countryboy]

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I understand its almost against the rules to bash the game on this message board, I apologize.

I've now gone back and seen that people have complained with this issue in regular play, so I'm not sure what to believe.

If you have the game my suggestion is to play and see for yourself.


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[Bullit]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I understand its almost against the rules to bash the game on this message board, I apologize.

I've now gone back and seen that people have complained with this issue in regular play, so I'm not sure what to believe.

This passive aggressive nonsense is also a good way to get banned. You are not having a civil discussion or opinion, you are trolling about a topic you have not experienced for yourself.