Directional Hitting Guide

[rkocjay]

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Is the hitting chart in 18?i can't find it

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[hitmanwa]

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Is the hitting chart in 18?i can't find it

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On the roster or lineup screen press triangle...not in a game. Does not show up in game.

[hitmanwa]

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Is there a legend for all the analysis abbreviations for label swing timing, hit chance, hit mph, etc...

Thanks, learn something each time I read this guide.

[ARA28]

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On the roster or lineup screen press triangle...not in a game. Does not show up in game.

If you pause when your hitter is at the plate and move the L stick to the right it shows a hit chart and says whether he is a pull hitter/push etc.

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[hitmanwa]

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If you pause when your hitter is at the plate and move the L stick to the right it shows a hit chart and says whether he is a pull hitter/push etc.

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I think in franchise it only shows the tendency, not the chart. Maybe I am wrong.

Do you get a bump for taking a practice swing? Maybe it is just in my head.

[rkocjay]

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If you pause when your hitter is at the plate and move the L stick to the right it shows a hit chart and says whether he is a pull hitter/push etc.

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Got it thank you

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[TheWarmWind]

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I think in franchise it only shows the tendency, not the chart. Maybe I am wrong.

Do you get a bump for taking a practice swing? Maybe it is just in my head.

Funny you should mention that...

If you take a look at the wild tips and theories section, you'll notice that I too feel that way.

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[KBLover]

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Do you get a bump for taking a practice swing? Maybe it is just in my head.

I don't know - I never noticed a difference.

[KBLover]

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10 - the more your batters see of a pitcher, the better vision they have. This is in part true because as a pitcher tires their K/9 (the stat that battles vision) gets debuffed. It's also true within the context of a single at bat though. So the more pitches you take the better your batter, the more you improve your chances of solid contact.

I was just thinking about this because this is pretty much how I hit.

I'm always trying to work a lot of pitches in a PA. My goal is to get at least 16 pitches per inning while doing some mixing up of the approach (so the CPU doesn't catch on too much). So that means I do swing earlier in the count at times, depending on situation (I want a grounder to move runners or get a man in from 3rd with a lower power hitter, I get a pitch low that's a strike, I'll probably attack it ASAP).

Barring situation and occasional mixup, especially if I'm "ahead of schedule", I'm going for at least 5-6 pitches per PA (15-18 pitches if I'm retired in order), so that's usually either a 3-2 duel about to ensue, I've drawn the walk, or I put a 2-2, 3-1 pitch in play.

But I wonder - it must be a small buff because I don't know if it's making my players "better" beyond what their ratings would normally indicate and the impacts of draining pitcher stamina/driving up pitch count.

But you have it as a 10, meaning you're reasonably certain it happens, given what we have to work with.

[TheWarmWind]

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I was just thinking about this because this is pretty much how I hit.

I'm always trying to work a lot of pitches in a PA. My goal is to get at least 16 pitches per inning while doing some mixing up of the approach (so the CPU doesn't catch on too much). So that means I do swing earlier in the count at times, depending on situation (I want a grounder to move runners or get a man in from 3rd with a lower power hitter, I get a pitch low that's a strike, I'll probably attack it ASAP).

Barring situation and occasional mixup, especially if I'm "ahead of schedule", I'm going for at least 5-6 pitches per PA (15-18 pitches if I'm retired in order), so that's usually either a 3-2 duel about to ensue, I've drawn the walk, or I put a 2-2, 3-1 pitch in play.

But I wonder - it must be a small buff because I don't know if it's making my players "better" beyond what their ratings would normally indicate and the impacts of draining pitcher stamina/driving up pitch count.

But you have it as a 10, meaning you're reasonably certain it happens, given what we have to work with.

It's a very slight buff if it exists but yeah I think it's there. Ever since I started using directional (which was 2015) I've seen slightly better results for deep count swings VS early count swings.

It's not enough to justify laying off a first pitch meatball, but it is enough to justify laying off a pitch you know is going to hit the corner for a strike early on.

Honestly I think it's pretty realistic. You can't expect a player to head out there and see a pitcher to the best of his ability on the first pitch, especially if it's a new pitcher. He's got to settle in a bit at the plate, getting used to that particular pitchers delivery and whatnot.

[hitmanwa]

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I was just thinking about this because this is pretty much how I hit.

I'm always trying to work a lot of pitches in a PA. My goal is to get at least 16 pitches per inning while doing some mixing up of the approach (so the CPU doesn't catch on too much). So that means I do swing earlier in the count at times, depending on situation (I want a grounder to move runners or get a man in from 3rd with a lower power hitter, I get a pitch low that's a strike, I'll probably attack it ASAP).

Barring situation and occasional mixup, especially if I'm "ahead of schedule", I'm going for at least 5-6 pitches per PA (15-18 pitches if I'm retired in order), so that's usually either a 3-2 duel about to ensue, I've drawn the walk, or I put a 2-2, 3-1 pitch in play.

But I wonder - it must be a small buff because I don't know if it's making my players "better" beyond what their ratings would normally indicate and the impacts of draining pitcher stamina/driving up pitch count.

But you have it as a 10, meaning you're reasonably certain it happens, given what we have to work with.

Glad you said that. I was feeling a little like I was cheating. First time through the lineup I watch pitches and only swing contact w 2 strikes. 2nd time through I try to watch for 1st pitch opportunities. I felt a bit gulty because in my last game vs the Rangers I had Minor over 50 pitches by the start of the 3rd inning and out of the game w 99 in the 6th. I also try to do this most in the first game of a series so their pen is crap by the 3rd game.

I wish there were more stat splits available. More like ootp.

[KBLover]

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Glad you said that. I was feeling a little like I was cheating. First time through the lineup I watch pitches and only swing contact w 2 strikes. 2nd time through I try to watch for 1st pitch opportunities. I felt a bit gulty because in my last game vs the Rangers I had Minor over 50 pitches by the start of the 3rd inning and out of the game w 99 in the 6th. I also try to do this most in the first game of a series so their pen is crap by the 3rd game.

I wish there were more stat splits available. More like ootp.

Agree 100% about the stats!

MLB average pitches per inning is 16 (that's where I get the number from), which translates to 96 for 6 innings and with 100 being the "magic number" for pitchers these days...there you go, why 5-6 innings is the limit for most guys.

I think the highest I've ever managed with a 50-pitch inning (only scored 2 runs lol) and had the starter at 90 by the start of the 4th inning.

Amazingly, I LOST that game 4-2. 10 walks, but couldn't string anything together!

[KBLover]

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It's a very slight buff if it exists but yeah I think it's there. Ever since I started using directional (which was 2015) I've seen slightly better results for deep count swings VS early count swings.

It's not enough to justify laying off a first pitch meatball, but it is enough to justify laying off a pitch you know is going to hit the corner for a strike early on.

Honestly I think it's pretty realistic. You can't expect a player to head out there and see a pitcher to the best of his ability on the first pitch, especially if it's a new pitcher. He's got to settle in a bit at the plate, getting used to that particular pitchers delivery and whatnot.

Absolutely agree it's realistic. If anything, the effect probably should be stronger with a first-pitch penalty unless he's got the perk for it (i.e. it's his usual style).

I take myself, buff or no, when facing a new pitcher, even if I know the pitcher because his stuff will look different and he might have a different pattern.

Especially true once it's fictional players haven. You know none of the guys and can have no pre-made expectations for a good many of them. So, gotta calibrate the eye.

That's why I love when my league are fictionals and/or once years of development have kicked in. I can't "cheat" by using IRL knowledge/expectations. Gotta do stuff like what we're talking about like a real ballplayer.

[sportyguyfl31]

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I agree with the above. The hardest thing for me to do is lay off of a strike early in the count, unless it is waist high, right down the middle. It's really hard when you run into those games where the cpu seems to just mercilessly paint the corners and that 1 pitch early in the at bat, is the only one you see. I've had entire series that go like that.

[sportyguyfl31]

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Here are my problem children.. I cant get anything out of them

Lamb has been a total disaster. Heavy pull influence and he tail spinned right from the start. This was before I learned how vision played into things (44!)
Started forcing the issue with him, trying to get him out of it...then he got hurt and I'm still trying to get him to life

Flores is strange..Clubs lefties like crazy, but it's either home run or nothing. Vs righties its just weak contact, everywhere

Larkin is a punch and judy hitter vs righties..cant do much with anything middle-in, vs lefties, he pulls the ball for some pop