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  • sportyguyfl31
    MVP
    • Nov 2005
    • 4745

    #466
    Re: Directional Hitting Guide

    I'm 0-14 with Jay Bruce so far..my approach has been pull early in the count, neutral when ahead and with 2 strikes
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    • TheWarmWind
      MVP
      • Apr 2015
      • 2620

      #467
      Re: Directional Hitting Guide

      Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
      I'm 0-14 with Jay Bruce so far..my approach has been pull early in the count, neutral when ahead and with 2 strikes
      I'd take a look at his hot/cold zones. If he has a lot then skip pulling early and just stick with no influence. If not, then I'd suggest try favouring the down/pull hybrid swing, with just straight down swings when behind.

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      • sportyguyfl31
        MVP
        • Nov 2005
        • 4745

        #468
        Re: Directional Hitting Guide

        Overall Im having a blast with this. At-Bats are so much more thoughtful and satisfying. Last game was one of those where I was doing things right but still hitting into outs, but I kept at it..took my walks and eventually rallied in the 9th to force extras

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        • sportyguyfl31
          MVP
          • Nov 2005
          • 4745

          #469
          Re: Directional Hitting Guide

          Well whatya know..Bruce busts out 2 for 3 this current game 2 homers to RF 3 RBIs..

          Cespedes has similar profile, but his contact is much higher at 75. Vision is still low but im able to get away with pull swings early in the at bat, while I cant with Bruce.. I'm killing it with him so far.

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          • sportyguyfl31
            MVP
            • Nov 2005
            • 4745

            #470
            Re: Directional Hitting Guide

            Originally posted by TheWarmWind
            I'd take a look at his hot/cold zones. If he has a lot then skip pulling early and just stick with no influence. If not, then I'd suggest try favouring the down/pull hybrid swing, with just straight down swings when behind.
            What hitting difficulty do you use

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            • TheWarmWind
              MVP
              • Apr 2015
              • 2620

              #471
              Re: Directional Hitting Guide

              Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
              What hitting difficulty do you use
              I'm hitting on Hall of Fame using my sliders. You can find them in the sliders sub-thread.

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              • sportyguyfl31
                MVP
                • Nov 2005
                • 4745

                #472
                Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                I'm hitting on Hall of Fame using my sliders. You can find them in the sliders sub-thread.
                Will do..I'm on stock Hall of Fame and too many pitchers locate like Kershaw for my liking.

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                • sportyguyfl31
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 4745

                  #473
                  Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                  One thing I've observed with balanced right handed hitters vs right handed pitchers, is that pull influence is kind of difficult with them, whether they are high vision guys or not.

                  I did a fantasy draft and wasnt hitting more than sharp singles with Goldschmidt until I ditched pull influence altogether and went with neutral, push, and balanced drive swings..and now he's getting extra base hits. Vs lefties, his contact rating is so high, that I look to pull early. I have Barry Larkin who is a balanced contact hitter vs righties, and has more pop vs lefties. I experienced the same thing. Once I ditched pull vs righties, he caught fire.

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                  • TheWarmWind
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 2620

                    #474
                    Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                    Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
                    One thing I've observed with balanced right handed hitters vs right handed pitchers, is that pull influence is kind of difficult with them, whether they are high vision guys or not.

                    I did a fantasy draft and wasnt hitting more than sharp singles with Goldschmidt until I ditched pull influence altogether and went with neutral, push, and balanced drive swings..and now he's getting extra base hits. Vs lefties, his contact rating is so high, that I look to pull early. I have Barry Larkin who is a balanced contact hitter vs righties, and has more pop vs lefties. I experienced the same thing. Once I ditched pull vs righties, he caught fire.
                    Meanwhile I've got guys with balanced profiles who live and breath the pull swing. This is why you have to treat attributes as guidelines, not absolutes, and also treat players as individuals, not cookie cutter role players.

                    And yes, I've had some shockers in there. I can never pull swing with Bellinger, for example, and Posey seems to hate pull as well, especially vs righties.

                    Sorry, not trying to shoot you down, I'm just pointing out that balanced profile hitters are often the hardest to scout and learn the proper approach for.

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                    • COMMISSIONERHBK9
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 4564

                      #475
                      Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                      I’m trying your method aiming down but I’m only hitting grounders



                      Originally posted by KBLover
                      At this point, I'm pretty much holding down on almost every swing.

                      The results are clear and I don't think are placebo. Either the trajectory influence or the buff/penalty system (or both) are making the change. My LD rate has jumped significantly, on average, after doing just that difference.

                      At this point, I'm wondering if I should increase Contact to raise the impact of Vision (what I'm buffing in the buff/nerf system) and then I can adjust more on trajectory/direction.

                      Even if it's "minor", small changes can make big differences. Difference between a fly that makes the Monster or dies on the lip of the track. Difference between a liner over the 2B and towards the bullpens/triangle or right at him. Difference between a ball that makes it out over the bullpens or is a 370 foot pop fly, etc.

                      I haven't made a move yet, but I'm tempted to do so. Raise Contact, Lower timing some to compensate.
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                      • KBLover
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 12172

                        #476
                        Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                        Originally posted by COMMISSIONERHBK9
                        I’m trying your method aiming down but I’m only hitting grounders
                        I'm still getting a variety of trajectories.

                        Outlier game for sure, but recently had a 50% LD rate. The next game another outlier, 50% GB rate. Around 25% LD in most games if I'm using it consistently.

                        I might get 40% grounders, but that's pretty close. If anything, for me it takes some fly balls and either make them "lower fly balls" (that sometimes leave the park) or line drives with carry. It hasn't bothered my ground ball rate too much unless the hitters aren't getting the best contact or my timing is off too much.
                        "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                        • sportyguyfl31
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 4745

                          #477
                          Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                          Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                          Meanwhile I've got guys with balanced profiles who live and breath the pull swing. This is why you have to treat attributes as guidelines, not absolutes, and also treat players as individuals, not cookie cutter role players.

                          And yes, I've had some shockers in there. I can never pull swing with Bellinger, for example, and Posey seems to hate pull as well, especially vs righties.

                          Sorry, not trying to shoot you down, I'm just pointing out that balanced profile hitters are often the hardest to scout and learn the proper approach for.
                          No need to apologize..I should have probably clarified that I was speaking of the balanced righties on my particular team.

                          The overall point is correct though..If you notice that a player is getting consistent results with a particular approach, keep doing it

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                          • sportyguyfl31
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 4745

                            #478
                            Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                            What is your approach when you want to try to avoid the double play ball at all costs? Scoop swing, even at the expense of the vision?

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                            • TheWarmWind
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 2620

                              #479
                              Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                              Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
                              What is your approach when you want to try to avoid the double play ball at all costs? Scoop swing, even at the expense of the vision?
                              Generally yeah. I've been using the hybrid of up and away influence a lot in this scenario, especially with balanced hitters. But yeah their are situations where losing vision is a good idea. Basically, vision is the most directly responsible for getting you any contact at all, so I'm situations where it's preferable to get a strikeout then bad contact, reducing vision actually makes some sense.

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                              • COMMISSIONERHBK9
                                MVP
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 4564

                                #480
                                Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                                So I went back to directional since I change my team from the yankeee to the giants. I notice I’m hitting better when I’m aiming up left or up right depending the batter position. Now what I want to know is I notice my contact result is sometimes weak anyway to fix that ? Also should I just aim left right or right left instead of up ?
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