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  • Caulfield
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 10986

    #571
    Re: Directional Hitting Guide

    Originally posted by Bmarcoux
    Wondering what everyone's thoughts are on directional hitting with no influence. Seems like the best way to play using just players ratings and user timing and pitch selection.
    Sometimes I try to influence the direction but the great majority of the time I'm just trying to get wood on the ball and all my focus is on that. Let the chips fall where they may lol
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    • COMMISSIONERHBK9
      MVP
      • Dec 2003
      • 4564

      #572
      Re: Directional Hitting Guide

      So what the final verdict for directional do we influence or no
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      • TheWarmWind
        MVP
        • Apr 2015
        • 2620

        #573
        Re: Directional Hitting Guide

        Originally posted by COMMISSIONERHBK9
        So what the final verdict for directional do we influence or no
        I'm... Unsure what you're looking for with this question. I'm unsure how I can have more of a "final verdict" than what I wrote in the original post.

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        • bravesfan1984
          MVP
          • Mar 2008
          • 2808

          #574
          Re: Directional Hitting Guide

          I have definitely found more success using a downward influence, down away/down pull influence exclusively. Even knocked a couple homers this way too. Good stuff!
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          • sportyguyfl31
            MVP
            • Nov 2005
            • 4745

            #575
            Re: Directional Hitting Guide

            Do you scoop swing every time you have a men on base with a power guy up? Or do you go by game situation. I think Ive been doing it too much and have some hitters in a tail spin as a result

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            • JoshC1977
              All Star
              • Dec 2010
              • 11564

              #576
              Re: Directional Hitting Guide

              Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
              Do you scoop swing every time you have a men on base with a power guy up? Or do you go by game situation. I think Ive been doing it too much and have some hitters in a tail spin as a result
              It depends on the hitter for me and it can sometimes takes 100s of ABs with a player to get a genuine feel for what "works" for him.

              I can flat-out tell you that there are some power hitters I will NEVER scoop swing with. There are other power guys I will just try to pull the ball. There are still other power guys where I rarely (if ever) influence their swing.

              Before I really started getting the nuances of directional hitting, I used to scoop swing a lot with power guys. Sure, it generated some bombs, but if your timing is off at all....you get some really ugly results. It's really like how some players (real life) will go into a funk because they are pressing too much to make things happen.
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              • sportyguyfl31
                MVP
                • Nov 2005
                • 4745

                #577
                Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                I'm wondering if drive swing with all of my low vision hitters isn't the way to go

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                • ML
                  Eli for HOF
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 1963

                  #578
                  Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                  Just wanted to bump this, especially as even with the new hitting gameplay, this guide is still applicable.


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                  • TheWarmWind
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 2620

                    #579
                    Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                    Originally posted by MLamm
                    Just wanted to bump this, especially as even with the new hitting gameplay, this guide is still applicable.


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                    Thanks for the bump, but I have noticed a few changes with the hitting engine. The biggest is the obvious one: the contact attribute has more impact. This draws away some of the impact that the vision attribute has.

                    Don't get me wrong, based on my play so far I still believe that the vision attribute is the most important attribute when attempting anything other than the no influence swing, but that statement has never been less true than in 19.

                    I still need much more playtesting, but as of right now I consider it highly likely that I'll be making either revisions or additions due to 19.

                    PS the down influence is still kind of OP. In fact, it might be even more powerful. I've been using (abusing) it a lot.

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                    • Geolink
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 652

                      #580
                      Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                      Had to switch back to directional to beat that damn Willie Mays 600 HR program.

                      Up + Pull + Power swing did it. First pitch too.

                      This thread helped me remember.

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                      • GoBlue81188
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 1801

                        #581
                        Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                        Left stick influence is still as the OP outlines, correct?

                        Tremendous guide btw, I try to reread it once a year to refresh my approach
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                        • TheWarmWind
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 2620

                          #582
                          Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                          Originally posted by lhsballa11
                          Left stick influence is still as the OP outlines, correct?

                          Tremendous guide btw, I try to reread it once a year to refresh my approach
                          For the most part, yes.

                          The biggest change to look out for is the new importance of contact. Not only does it have more impact this year, but it also controls a new factor: bat exit velocity floors. Power still impacts the bat exit velocity ceilings.

                          This means that by using a pull swing, you are opening up both the bat exit velocity ceiling and floor, making it even more of a double edged sword.

                          In summary: contact has been buffed, effecting both solid contact more and bat exit velocities.

                          In terms of directional, this means the pull swing has been nerfed, and the up swing has been buffed. So far my playtesting has confirmed this. I'm actually about to integrate the up swing into one of my players usual approaches, so I'll have better confirmation at a later date.

                          Pull swing is still good for pull hitters, but it is no longer the be all end all swing for getting power.

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                          • Armor and Sword
                            The Lama
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 21789

                            #583
                            Directional Hitting Guide

                            I can confidentially tell all of you this guide is fantastic if you want to learn the intricacies of using Directional Hitting.

                            And also always remember working the counts to your favor and the ability to sit on pitches will result is greater success!!


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                            • SFNiners816
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 613

                              #584
                              Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                              This guide is outstanding. I've usually have used Zone, but I'm strongly considering going to directional. Thanks for all the hard work putting this together.

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                              • cnh2os84
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 203

                                #585
                                Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                                Originally posted by SFNiners816
                                This guide is outstanding. I've usually have used Zone, but I'm strongly considering going to directional. Thanks for all the hard work putting this together.


                                I agree. I’ve always used zone in the past, but have been trying directional this year in M2O and have been seeing promising results. (Batting has always been my weakness in this game.)
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