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  • doctorhay53
    MVP
    • Aug 2005
    • 1360

    #106
    Re: Directional Hitting Guide

    I've mostly been playing in RTTS but using what I've learned from this in diamond dynasty my first hit was a 467 foot homerun with Eric Thames on a pull normal swing
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    • SolidSnake07
      Pro
      • Sep 2006
      • 546

      #107
      Re: Directional Hitting Guide

      I've been playing with directional hitting the last few days and I kinda like it. I mostly hold the stick down and on occasion I hold the stick towards my batter and I get good results. I am even able to hit home runs with the stick down which was a surprise to me.

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      • TheWarmWind
        MVP
        • Apr 2015
        • 2620

        #108
        Re: Directional Hitting Guide

        Originally posted by SolidSnake07
        I've been playing with directional hitting the last few days and I kinda like it. I mostly hold the stick down and on occasion I hold the stick towards my batter and I get good results. I am even able to hit home runs with the stick down which was a surprise to me.
        It surprises me too actually, since I've still yet to hit one with the downward influence. Mind you I really only use it for speedy batters. I'd love if you'd post your approach or strategy at the plate.

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        • SuperSeahawks
          MVP
          • Jul 2009
          • 1335

          #109
          Re: Directional Hitting Guide

          Originally posted by TheWarmWind
          It surprises me too actually, since I've still yet to hit one with the downward influence. Mind you I really only use it for speedy batters. I'd love if you'd post your approach or strategy at the plate.
          I've had a few where I almost hit HR's using downward influence. Thing is my timing was off so all of them were foul, but were pretty much line drives so I believe it can be done.
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          • HighCmpPct
            Denny 3K
            • Oct 2011
            • 3589

            #110
            Re: Directional Hitting Guide

            I posted a thread about my approach already but here it is again anyhow lol.

            Balanced Hitters [all fields in 30s]:
            0-0,0-1,1-1,3-2: Just X no Direction
            1-0,2-0,3-0,2-1,3-1: Look to pull.
            0-2,1-2,2-2: Look to go the other way.

            Balanced Hitters [30s or higher to pull/oppo but 20s up the middle]:
            0-0,0-1,1-0,1-1,2-0,2-1,3-0,3-1,3-2 Look to pull if it's the highest %.
            0-2,1-2,2-2: Look to go the other way.

            Pull hitters [Pull field % under 45%]:
            0-0,0-1,1-0,1-1,2-0,2-1,3-0,3-1,3-2: Look to pull.
            0-2,1-2,2-2: Look to go the other way.

            Pull hitters [Pull field 45% or higher]
            Always look to pull unless baserunner rules apply.

            Push hitters:
            0-0,1-0,2-0,3-0: Take until you get a strike.
            2-1,3-1: Look to pull.
            1-1: Just press X.
            0-1,0-2,1-2,2-2,3-2: Look to go the other way.

            So that's my approach it's worked really well for me so thought I'd share. Have fun guys.

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            • TheWarmWind
              MVP
              • Apr 2015
              • 2620

              #111
              Re: Directional Hitting Guide

              That's a pretty solid strat HighCmpPct. I still stand by my "you should always pick an influence" statement but I understand why people might resist that idea. My biggest tip to you though is to start trying those downward swings, especially with your speedy guys. Ya won't regret it, especially when behind in the count.

              Jeez I could have named this thread "why you should use the downward swing in directional" and it probably wouldn't have been that much different.

              For those that are curious, here is my strat for comparison, though remember this is just my starting point I get very specific strats for individual players. These also don't include situational hitting.

              Pull hitter and Balanced power Hitter:

              0-0, 0-1, 1-1, 2-1, 3-1, 2-2, 3-2: normal pull
              0-2, 1-2: contact push

              Balanced speed:

              0-0, 1-0, 0-1, 3-2: normal Gut/play by ear (favouring push)
              0-2, 1-2: Contact Down or down push hybrid
              2-2: Normal down or hybrid direction down
              2-1,3-1: Normal gut (favouring pull)

              Push hitter:

              0-0, 0-1, 1-0, 1-1, 2-0, 2-1, 3-2: normal push
              0-2, 1-2: contact hybrid down/push
              2-2: Normal hybrid down/push
              3-0, 3-1: Normal pull

              My approach is a little more aggressive, but it's thanks to working on my discipline that I'm able to trust myself with this strat. Like I've said several times before though, I highly encourage you all to use the info from this thread to formulate your own strat.

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              • No.27
                Pro
                • Dec 2015
                • 543

                #112
                Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                That's a pretty solid strat HighCmpPct. I still stand by my "you should always pick an influence" statement but I understand why people might resist that idea. My biggest tip to you though is to start trying those downward swings, especially with your speedy guys. Ya won't regret it, especially when behind in the count.

                Jeez I could have named this thread "why you should use the downward swing in directional" and it probably wouldn't have been that much different.

                For those that are curious, here is my strat for comparison, though remember this is just my starting point I get very specific strats for individual players. These also don't include situational hitting.

                Pull hitter and Balanced power Hitter:

                0-0, 0-1, 1-1, 2-1, 3-1, 2-2, 3-2: normal pull
                0-2, 1-2: contact push

                Balanced speed:

                0-0, 1-0, 0-1, 3-2: normal Gut/play by ear (favouring push)
                0-2, 1-2: Contact Down or down push hybrid
                2-2: Normal down or hybrid direction down
                2-1,3-1: Normal gut (favouring pull)

                Push hitter:

                0-0, 0-1, 1-0, 1-1, 2-0, 2-1, 3-2: normal push
                0-2, 1-2: contact hybrid down/push
                2-2: Normal hybrid down/push
                3-0, 3-1: Normal pull

                My approach is a little more aggressive, but it's thanks to working on my discipline that I'm able to trust myself with this strat. Like I've said several times before though, I highly encourage you all to use the info from this thread to formulate your own strat.
                I wholeheartedly agree with influencing on every swing and the use of downward influence. Before reading this thread I don't think I ever used downward influence. Now it is my go to for balanced hitters and pull/push hitters when behind in the count. It has brought me many base hits both through and over the infield that I wasn't getting before. In fact I have a suspicion my doubles have increased and homers decreased but will investigate this further.

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                • bradypunch
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 68

                  #113
                  Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                  I'm concerned here as I see no mention about not giving a direction just x only. I sit that often and seem to get better hits idk because with good contact hitters like Lindor and Ramirez I just want nice solid doubles and if I try and aim it up right it will create a flyoutur to the right. Or I just aim down and try the up the middle approach but sometimes timing isn't great so resorts j double play so I resort back to no influence. Is this ok? Of course if its 3 2 and I have man on first I try for the homer with encarancion up and pull but if I sometimes just no direction encarancion hits a solid gapper where as it would be pro baly been a pop out. Should I just hold to the side only and not up at all. And for a gappere down and pull? Very confused if anyone just don't direct it?

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                  • TheWarmWind
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 2620

                    #114
                    Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                    Originally posted by bradypunch
                    I'm concerned here as I see no mention about not giving a direction just x only. I sit that often and seem to get better hits idk because with good contact hitters like Lindor and Ramirez I just want nice solid doubles and if I try and aim it up right it will create a flyoutur to the right. Or I just aim down and try the up the middle approach but sometimes timing isn't great so resorts j double play so I resort back to no influence. Is this ok? Of course if its 3 2 and I have man on first I try for the homer with encarancion up and pull but if I sometimes just no direction encarancion hits a solid gapper where as it would be pro baly been a pop out. Should I just hold to the side only and not up at all. And for a gappere down and pull? Very confused if anyone just don't direct it?
                    There is nothing inherently wrong with just swinging without a direction, but as I state in the OP each swing type has benefits and costs, but the benefits are greater than the costs.

                    Encarnarcion is a good example actually, because he is an extreme pull hitter. This means that he gets the same benefit of a pull swing as anyone else, but at little to no cost. The price for this power is he gets less of a benefit from push and downward swings.

                    I would avoid adding in an up swing to your contact hitters when possible. Vision is such an important attribute when directional hitting, so you really want to avoid using it and getting the penalty to vision with your contact guys. If you're looking for more solid gappers, I recommend a few more pull swings, sprinkled with some downward influence when behind.

                    When you choose no influence, you're leaving these buffs plus a slightly wider timing window behind. True you don't get the costs either but as I state in the OP there is no timing window cost. A pull swing timing window will close at the same time a no influence swing would. You should check out my Unexpected Hits post earlier in the thread. It's back on page 8 (web version): http://www.operationsports.com/forum...g-guide-8.html

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                    • PsychoBulk
                      Hoping for change...
                      • May 2006
                      • 4190

                      #115
                      Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                      The difference and improvement this guide has made to my hitting is off the charts.

                      I thought i knew Directional pretty well before but this has opened up a whole new world of hits and opportunities ive never seen before.

                      Cant thank you enough fella.

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                      • Qdiddy
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 532

                        #116
                        Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                        Originally posted by PsychoBulk
                        The difference and improvement this guide has made to my hitting is off the charts.



                        I thought i knew Directional pretty well before but this has opened up a whole new world of hits and opportunities ive never seen before.



                        Cant thank you enough fella.


                        This exactly is my feedback after reading this thread through and applying it to games, changed my approach to hitting a lot great thread


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                        • Dragsy
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 49

                          #117
                          Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                          Does using a directional influence affect your timing at all? I swear when I'm pulling, my swings get earlier, but it doesn't feel like I'm timing any different than when I don't influence direction.

                          Great guide by the way, I'm getting there, slowly. I did manage to hit a 3 run homer with Neil Walker while using a downward swing, which was surprising. Still bloody lost, mind.

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                          • TheWarmWind
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 2620

                            #118
                            Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                            Originally posted by Dragsy
                            Does using a directional influence affect your timing at all? I swear when I'm pulling, my swings get earlier, but it doesn't feel like I'm timing any different than when I don't influence direction.

                            Great guide by the way, I'm getting there, slowly. I did manage to hit a 3 run homer with Neil Walker while using a downward swing, which was surprising. Still bloody lost, mind.
                            Influence can have an effect on swing speed, yes. Good catch. It's not an absolute which is why I didn't mention it. Knowing that a pull swing can unlock a faster swing speed has the potential to really mess up people's timing.

                            People who having their human timing window wider will really notice this effect. It's fairly minor at default sliders.

                            Edit: People playing below veteran will also notice this effect more.

                            I think we've effectively blown my "you can't hit a homerun using downward influence" theory out of the water in this thread. You'll still see a reduction in power, but obviously still capable of hitting homeruns.

                            Next milestone is if someone can hit a homerun using the hybrid down/push swing. I'm sure it's already happened but it's got to be rare.
                            Last edited by TheWarmWind; 05-24-2017, 07:13 PM.

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                            • SolidSnake07
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 546

                              #119
                              Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                              Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                              It surprises me too actually, since I've still yet to hit one with the downward influence. Mind you I really only use it for speedy batters. I'd love if you'd post your approach or strategy at the plate.
                              I don't really have an approach other than look for a pitch in the zone.

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                              • Yankeefan1991
                                Rookie
                                • May 2017
                                • 83

                                #120
                                Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                                Is this Really how directional hitting is working ? I mean i read everything of this Post and tried it out about 10 games But My hitting is horrible since than. It worked much better just to leave the direction and just Push the Button and for some special situations it is useful to choose a direction. Where do you got your infos from ?

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