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  • TheWarmWind
    MVP
    • Apr 2015
    • 2620

    #121
    Re: Directional Hitting Guide

    Originally posted by Yankeefan1991
    Is this Really how directional hitting is working ? I mean i read everything of this Post and tried it out about 10 games But My hitting is horrible since than. It worked much better just to leave the direction and just Push the Button and for some special situations it is useful to choose a direction. Where do you got your infos from ?
    Sucks it's not working out for you man.

    I got this info through extensive testing in batting practice and in game. I'm pretty good at picking up on patterns and tendencies. I could be, and am fully prepared to be wrong, but I've got a lot of confidence in the information in this thread.

    It could be a placebo effect that's messing you up. The power of belief is real, and if you believe that a no influence swing is better, then that belief can lead to better timing performance when swinging with no influence. If that's what's working for you, then I suggest you stick with it for now. As an ex-athlete, I can personally attest to the power of superstition and the mental control it brings. Probably shouldn't try to change or adapt until your current strategy stops working.

    It could also just be really bad luck, or even that I'm the one who's a victim of the placebo effect. I had no bias when I first went about the process of trying to unlock the secrets directional, but I am but a squishy mortal who can make mistakes. Like I said before though, I've got confidence in the info in this thread.

    Whatever decision you choose, whether it's to follow the guide or to switch back to your previous strategy, I wish you luck in your future hitting! Hope things turn around for you at the plate.

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    • Yankeefan1991
      Rookie
      • May 2017
      • 83

      #122
      Re: Directional Hitting Guide

      Originally posted by TheWarmWind
      Sucks it's not working out for you man.

      I got this info through extensive testing in batting practice and in game. I'm pretty good at picking up on patterns and tendencies. I could be, and am fully prepared to be wrong, but I've got a lot of confidence in the information in this thread.

      It could be a placebo effect that's messing you up. The power of belief is real, and if you believe that a no influence swing is better, then that belief can lead to better timing performance when swinging with no influence. If that's what's working for you, then I suggest you stick with it for now. As an ex-athlete, I can personally attest to the power of superstition and the mental control it brings. Probably shouldn't try to change or adapt until your current strategy stops working.

      It could also just be really bad luck, or even that I'm the one who's a victim of the placebo effect. I had no bias when I first went about the process of trying to unlock the secrets directional, but I am but a squishy mortal who can make mistakes. Like I said before though, I've got confidence in the info in this thread.

      Whatever decision you choose, whether it's to follow the guide or to switch back to your previous strategy, I wish you luck in your future hitting! Hope things turn around for you at the plate.
      don´t get me wrong your thoughts and ideas are great and should be implemented by scea but i don´t think hitting is that deep at the moment. mlb be the show is a great baseball simulation but i think directional hitting is just to choose a direction and influence the timing just a bit. there is a mode called explore option where you can test all three modes and the pitcher is throwing the ball in middle of the plate everytime. i spend the last two hours there and what i can see is that power and contact buttons are much more important as i used them in the past. It would make much more sense then these deep hitting thoughts of you because it is also not explained. maybe somebody should contact someone of scea to be right about that. it would be great if it is like you say but i think they make it more playable for everyone

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      • nunogomes
        MVP
        • Oct 2005
        • 1107

        #123
        Re: Directional Hitting Guide

        I honestly have the complete opposite experience than you. This guide is absolutely spot on in my experience. Every time i use the influence button and i hit the intended timing swing the hit will 90% of the times do what was supposed to do (according to this guide) considering the location of the pitch.

        Now, example situation, if im with a righty, who is a pull hitter and i influence up+left to pull the ball and i have a LATE swing, it will never pull the ball although i used influence to do it. It doesn´t work that way. For us to be able to influence this situation in particular we need to be early on the swing (pull) or the influence boost is gone...

        O honestly feel this guide is absolutely spot on, and those 2 images a couple of pages ago are absolutely vital to me.

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        • TheWarmWind
          MVP
          • Apr 2015
          • 2620

          #124
          Re: Directional Hitting Guide

          Originally posted by nunogomes
          I honestly have the complete opposite experience than you. This guide is absolutely spot on in my experience. Every time i use the influence button and i hit the intended timing swing the hit will 90% of the times do what was supposed to do (according to this guide) considering the location of the pitch.

          Now, example situation, if im with a righty, who is a pull hitter and i influence up+left to pull the ball and i have a LATE swing, it will never pull the ball although i used influence to do it. It doesn´t work that way. For us to be able to influence this situation in particular we need to be early on the swing (pull) or the influence boost is gone...

          O honestly feel this guide is absolutely spot on, and those 2 images a couple of pages ago are absolutely vital to me.
          Yeah props to TripleCrown for making and sharing those. Great little queue cards to help newer/forgetful players.

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          • Duff2
            Rookie
            • May 2011
            • 30

            #125
            Re: Directional Hitting Guide

            Originally posted by TheWarmWind
            By the way, I was wondering if people wanted me to do more scouting reports. I'm willing to take requests. I can do stuff off the default or live rosters, or even DD cards.

            I was also thinking about doing a section breaking down a pull focused hitter, a push focused hitter and a balanced hitter, and highlighting the advantages of each, the value they bring to your club and how to handle specific situations at the plate with these hitters. So far I've only covered no base runner situations.

            Like the post if you're interested, I'll do the triple threat breakdown if I get ten likes on it.
            Would love to see a scouting report for the Live Series Red Sox. I just started a Franchise and I would love to get some insight on how to approach each player. Thanks in advance.

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            • gman2774
              MVP
              • Mar 2004
              • 1067

              #126
              Re: Directional Hitting Guide

              I've only used this approach for two games but so far the impact has been unbelievable. So glad I found this thread. It has injected life into the game and I can't wait to play my next game. Well done and thanks for sharing.


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              • TheWarmWind
                MVP
                • Apr 2015
                • 2620

                #127
                Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                Originally posted by Duff2
                Would love to see a scouting report for the Live Series Red Sox. I just started a Franchise and I would love to get some insight on how to approach each player. Thanks in advance.
                The entire lineup? Yeessh, that's a lot of work man. Got any players in particular you're unsure about?

                Edit: Would love a photo upload of attributes too. Better to use your current franchise players as opposed to current live by now. I am very lazy (made this thread initially to reduce the number of questions in the Q&A and Teach me/Strategies threads).
                Last edited by TheWarmWind; 05-30-2017, 11:07 PM. Reason: to describe my lazyness

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                • TNKNGM
                  All Star
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 6784

                  #128
                  Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                  Do you aim with the pitch - like track the pitch and push the arrow towards the pitch?

                  ...or do you basically preset your swing type?

                  Also, how often do you not pick a swing type and just leave it centered?

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                  • No.27
                    Pro
                    • Dec 2015
                    • 543

                    #129
                    Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                    Originally posted by TNKNGM
                    Do you aim with the pitch - like track the pitch and push the arrow towards the pitch?

                    ...or do you basically preset your swing type?

                    Also, how often do you not pick a swing type and just leave it centered?
                    I've read this guide so many times I feel qualified to answer. You hold the stick prepitch in the direction you want to influence. The AI moves the PCI behind the scenes for you. This lets you concentrate on timing. As the WarmWind explains it there is probably a benefit to choosing influence on every pitch but I will let him chime in on the nuances. My bread and butter is amazingly downward influence for balanced guys. You will have a high contact/vision guy like Benintendis .157 average up in no time using this method

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                    • COMMISSIONERHBK9
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 4564

                      #130
                      Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                      Originally posted by No.27
                      I've read this guide so many times I feel qualified to answer. You hold the stick prepitch in the direction you want to influence. The AI moves the PCI behind the scenes for you. This lets you concentrate on timing. As the WarmWind explains it there is probably a benefit to choosing influence on every pitch but I will let him chime in on the nuances. My bread and butter is amazingly downward influence for balanced guys. You will have a high contact/vision guy like Benintendis .157 average up in no time using this method
                      so for balanced you always aim down and for the pull what do you aim?
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                      • No.27
                        Pro
                        • Dec 2015
                        • 543

                        #131
                        Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                        Originally posted by COMMISSIONERHBK9
                        so for balanced you always aim down and for the pull what do you aim?
                        You can use any influence with any tendency depending on the situation. For instance Rizzo is a pull hitter but I will influence push when hitting against the shift. However to keep things simple for myself I generally influence down for balanced hitters, push for push hitters and pull for pull hitters unless behind in the count then I influence down. I've only used influence up for all tendencies in one game when facing a sinkerballer pounding the bottom of the zone and hit 3 homers off him so again that's where the situational use of Directional comes in. This is only my take on the WarmWinds system all credit goes to him.
                        Last edited by No.27; 06-04-2017, 04:17 AM.

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                        • Dragsy
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 49

                          #132
                          Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                          Originally posted by COMMISSIONERHBK9
                          so for balanced you always aim down and for the pull what do you aim?
                          I'm not massively experienced, but this guide has helped me get a lot better at hitting and understanding the pull/push concept in general.

                          I've found it's more situational. Typically, your pull hitters you're gonna aim towards them (so a righty, you'd pull the left stick to the left), but some guys seem to do better with the opposite. For example, in my Franchise, Conforto has been hot garbage, something like .189 through April and May. AI always puts the shift on, so I've started ignoring inside pitches and influencing to push on pitches outside (hit 'em where they ain't, right?), and he's been mashing in June. Doesn't work for everyone though. I tried pushing against the shift with Duda and just kept popping up to the infield. And Jay Bruce doesn't care where you shift, or what direction I influence, he'll hit it wherever he damn well pleases, thank you very much.

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                          • COMMISSIONERHBK9
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 4564

                            #133
                            Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                            so just so I can understand pull means aim away from the batter? and balanced is down?
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                            • The Chef
                              Moderator
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 13684

                              #134
                              Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                              Originally posted by No.27
                              You can use any influence with any tendency depending on the situation. For instance Rizzo is a pull hitter but I will influence push when hitting against the shift. However to keep things simple for myself I generally influence down for balanced hitters, push for push hitters and pull for pull hitters unless behind in the count then I influence down. I've only used influence up for all tendencies in one game when facing a sinkerballer pounding the bottom of the zone and hit 3 homers off him so again that's where the situational use of Directional comes in. This is only my take on the WarmWinds system all credit goes to him.
                              Wouldn't influencing down lead to a lot of ground balls? I ask because it seems like the worst influence unless the batter is a burner who can leg out infield singles but maybe I'm wrong with how this all works.
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                              • BegBy
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 1212

                                #135
                                Re: Directional Hitting Guide

                                Originally posted by The Chef
                                Wouldn't influencing down lead to a lot of ground balls? I ask because it seems like the worst influence unless the batter is a burner who can leg out infield singles but maybe I'm wrong with how this all works.
                                I believe in theory you are right, however in my experience influencing down results in more line drives. I actually hit an opposite field homer last night while pushing down. It was a scraper for sure, and needless to say I was shocked. Who's to say when and how much influence pushing a direction actually has, but I can say with certainty that there are times when it absolutely looks and feels like the near exact hit you wanted, and to my mind pushing down nets me that feeling (for lack of better term) a few times a game. I can also say that pushing up, either straight up or diagonally tends to get me popups and flyballs - and not good ones. I mainly just use down, left and right. Again - pushing down can really result in some good hits in look, feel and effectiveness.

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