Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

[countryboy]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

for some reason I have good success bunting using the zone hitting mechanics. When I use directional, the rocket bunts happen pretty much every time.

Any one else have the same experience?



Dowie

I bunt using zone and don’t see an issue with bunting

Haven’t tried directional


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[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

I bunt using zone and don’t see an issue with bunting

Haven’t tried directional


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Man i wish i got those results. I dont get it.

I wish we could see a live stream of your bunting, so that all of us with bunting issues can see what it should look like. Either yours performs completely differently than ours, or we have an entirely different concept of what bunting should look like.

I have about one good bunt per ten attempts i think.

[bcruise]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

Man i wish i got those results. I dont get it.

I wish we could see a live stream of your bunting, so that all of us with bunting issues can see what it should look like. Either yours performs completely differently than ours, or we have an entirely different concept of what bunting should look like.

I have about one good bunt per ten attempts i think.

I feel like this constantly gets lost in this discussion, so I want to clarify - bunting for hits or sac bunting? Because I could definitely record a video of myself in practice mode with a high rate of success while sac bunting, where you can see exactly what I'm doing. Bunting for hits....not so much.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

I feel like this constantly gets lost in this discussion, so I want to clarify - bunting for hits or sac bunting? Because I could definitely record a video of myself in practice mode with a high rate of success while sac bunting, where you can see exactly what I'm doing. Bunting for hits....not so much.

Either one. When i say success, i really mean laying down a realistic bunt. I can sac bunt also, but it doesn't look anything like real bunting. They're still rocket bunts. Its usually successful because the CPU for some reason normally doesn't try to turn two or get the lead runner.

I tried to move a runner from second to third the other day however, and it was a hard bunt right at the third baseman, who just applied the tag to the runner and threw to first for the double play. So there's that.

Bunting for hits i cannot do well either, but they actually look a tiny bit better, maybe, than sac bunts. Probably because there is only one hitter i even attempt this with. But i have gotten lucky in games. A time or two. In practice not so much. Very occasionally a perfect bunt will be laid down. But nowhere near the rate MLB players can do it.

I can do the pullback method, but its still not realistic. Although it does seem more effective at times.

[bcruise]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

Either one. When i say success, i really mean laying down a realistic bunt. I can sac bunt also, but it doesn't look anything like real bunting. They're still rocket bunts. Its usually successful because the CPU for some reason normally doesn't try to turn two or get the lead runner.

I tried to move a runner from second to third the other day however, and it was a hard bunt right at the third baseman, who just applied the tag to the runner and threw to first for the double play. So there's that.

Bunting for hits i cannot do well either, but they actually look a tiny bit better, maybe, than sac bunts. Probably because there is only one hitter i even attempt this with. But i have gotten lucky in games. A time or two. In practice not so much. Very occasionally a perfect bunt will be laid down. But nowhere near the rate MLB players can do it.

I can do the pullback method, but its still not realistic. Although it does seem more effective at times.

Okay, I understand what you're saying. I too think that even the sac bunts are too hard, but like you said the majority of the time the CPU takes the overly safe play. I can still sacrifice at what I would consider a realistic rate despite that, which is probably why that part of the game doesn't seem broken to me. I'm more interested in the end result than how something looks, in other words.

It's definitely a symptom of a larger problem when both types of bunts look like that - I think we can both agree on that.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

Okay, I understand what you're saying. I too think that even the sac bunts are too hard, but like you said the majority of the time the CPU takes the overly safe play. I can still sacrifice at what I would consider a realistic rate despite that, which is probably why that part of the game doesn't seem broken to me. I'm more interested in the end result than how something looks, in other words.

It's definitely a symptom of a larger problem when both types of bunts look like that - I think we can both agree on that.

Agreed. It doesn't take away from the game as a whole for me. But i also dont play small ball too often. My pitching staff wont allow it lol.

I like good results best too. But i want the game to look as good as possible while getting good results, especially when i know its 100% doable. For the most part the game accomplishes that. They put a ton of detail into making the game look like real baseball only to leave bunting looking like something completely different. I know bunting can be fixed, because it was made into this on purpose.

Some players should lay down decent bunts for hits fairly easily. I cant do this with much consistency in practice mode.

I kind of like the whole package of results and realistic appearance for full immersion where i can get it. (Even the stupid levitating bat trick when games are left on pause annoys me. Lol. So unnecessary). Where i cant have that, give me results over looks.

[countryboy]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

Man i wish i got those results. I dont get it.

I wish we could see a live stream of your bunting, so that all of us with bunting issues can see what it should look like. Either yours performs completely differently than ours, or we have an entirely different concept of what bunting should look like.

I have about one good bunt per ten attempts i think.

Like I said before, I'm sorry but my gaming time is limited and I don't want to use it streaming myself in practice mode bunting continuously. I've shared videos of the bunts that I often see.

Bunting works for me. Maybe we see the same thing and have different opinions, or maybe my bunts are different, I don't know. It works for me and as i've said before I prefer bunting this way to the way it was in previous years.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

Like I said before, I'm sorry but my gaming time is limited and I don't want to use it streaming myself in practice mode bunting continuously. I've shared videos of the bunts that I often see.

Bunting works for me. Maybe we see the same thing and have different opinions, or maybe my bunts are different, I don't know. It works for me and as i've said before I prefer bunting this way to the way it was in previous years.

Ive described exactly what i see. Rocket bunts that "work" because the CPU throws to first. Pretty simple. If that is what you see then yes, we see the same thing. Is that what you see?

You responded to a post that compared zone to directional, saying they see rocket bunts on directional, contrasting it with zone, which implies they don't see them. You replied to that post seeming to agree (that you dont see rocket bunts on zone?), saying you also didn't have issues with zone but haven't tried directional.

Im not really expecting an actual stream lol, even though i would actually do it if i knew i had the answer to something so many people were dealing with, even though my playing time is very limited compared to most on here. Heck, in your 'limited' playing time, if im not mistaken you played a whole season and started a new one in the time most people would do good to get to the all star break. Lol.

Im just saying that everyone is having bunting issues (or most people) and if you somehow really did have the master key to bunting it would be nice if you would share it with everyone else (or at least show what happens when you do) since so many people are dealing with it. I know thats not going to happen and i can live with it as is. Im not a big bunter anyway.

[countryboy]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

Ive described exactly what i see. Rocket bunts that "work" because the CPU throws to first. Pretty simple. If that is what you see then yes, we see the same thing. Is that what you see?

I don't see what I would call rocket bunts. People keep saying they bunt the ball all the way to the first baseman or third baseman, and when sacrificing I've yet to have that happen. I bunt, its fielded and the play goes on. I've had plays where they attempt to go to second, but its rare.

You responded to a post that compared zone to directional, saying they see rocket bunts on directional, contrasting it with zone, which implies they don't see them. You replied to that post seeming to agree (that you dont see rocket bunts on zone?), saying you also didn't have issues with zone but haven't tried directional.

Correct, I agreed with a poster who said that he doesn't have an issue with rocket bunts while using zone because that is my experience as well. And correct I haven't, nor will I try, directional. No reason for me to.

Im not really expecting an actual stream lol, even though i would actually do it if i knew i had the answer to something so many people were dealing with, even though my playing time is very limited compared to most on here. Heck, in your 'limited' playing time, if im not mistaken you played a whole season and started a new one in the time most people would do good to get to the all star break. Lol.

You can make condescending tone remarks all you want about my "limited" gaming time. I have a full time job, a 3 year old son, a step daughter, an ailing father, and a house and yard to tend to.

Yes I've completed a full season and started another one. That is what I choose to do with my gaming time, is play my franchise. I'm sorry if how I choose to spend my gaming time doesn't work for you.

Im just saying that everyone is having bunting issues (or most people) and if you somehow really did have the master key to bunting it would be nice if you would share it with everyone else (or at least show what happens when you do) since so many people are dealing with it. I know thats not going to happen and i can live with it as is. Im not a big bunter anyway.

I've shared in posts how I bunt, what I do. I've posted videos of the bunts that I typically see. I've done my "service" to the community. I don't have to stop playing my franchise for 15 to 30 minutes to stream myself bunting in practice mode.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

I don't see what I would call rocket bunts. People keep saying they bunt the ball all the way to the first baseman or third baseman, and when sacrificing I've yet to have that happen.

You have to be kidding me right now. You have the exact same copy of the show as the rest of us. There is a whole thread full of people here that know that isn't possible.

Correct, I agreed with a poster who said that he doesn't have an issue with rocket bunts while using zone because that is my experience as well. And correct I haven't, nor will I try, directional. No reason for me to.

He was referring directly to rocket bunts, which you somehow magically dont have. I get it.

You can make condescending tone remarks all you want about my "limited" gaming time. I have a full time job, a 3 year old son, a step daughter, an ailing father, and a house and yard to tend to.

Yes I've completed a full season and started another one. That is what I choose to do with my gaming time, is play my franchise. I'm sorry if how I choose to spend my gaming time doesn't work for you.

We all have busy lives. Just like "rocket bunts" and many other things that others bring up, i guess we just have a different definition of "limited" lol. I couldn't care less how much time you play. Youre the one that used "time" as the reason not to spend a few minutes making a video (which i wasn't even asking you to do). Im just saying you clearly have plenty of time, but you choose to use it to buzz through 167 games in just over 3 months. More power to you, doesn't bother me one bit. Never asked you to do anything differently. [/QUOTE]

I've shared in posts how I bunt, what I do. I've posted videos of the bunts that I typically see. I've done my "service" to the community. I don't have to stop playing my franchise for 15 to 30 minutes to stream myself bunting in practice mode.

Thank you for your "service."

Its a trend man. I like you bro, and im pulling for you and your family, and ive even defended you in posts and even pm's. But almost everything that comes up, you have a completely different experience and you always seem to make sure people know, multiple times, that you dont experience whatever it is they are experiencing, which makes it seem like you somehow got the only pristine copy of the Show. It gets old. It really does. And i know for a fact im not the only one. You also see home run distances on every single home run without exception. Maybe you do, i dont really know. This just happens so often that many people take what you say with a grain of salt. Maybe thats just the curse of having the only near-perfect copy of MLB the Show. If thats the case, then i apologize.

[countryboy]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

You have to be kidding me right now. You have the exact same copy of the show as the rest of us. There is a whole thread full of people here that know that isn't possible.

When sacrificing bunting, I have yet to have the ball roll all the way to first base or third base. It's fielded and the play is made.

He was referring directly to rocket bunts, which you somehow magically dont have. I get it.

Exactly. He doesn't have an issue with rocket bunts, neither do I.

We all have busy lives. Just like "rocket bunts" and many other things that others bring up, i guess we just have a different definition of "limited" lol. I couldn't care less how much time you play. Youre the one that used "time" as the reason not to spend a few minutes making a video (which i wasn't even asking you to do). Im just saying you clearly have plenty of time, but you choose to use it to buzz through 167 games in just over 3 months. More power to you, doesn't bother me one bit. Never asked you to do anything differently.

You just said you wish that I would stream my bunting so you can see what I'm seeing. I said I'm not because I choose to use my time to play franchise. As for a video there is one in this thread that I've shared.

EDIT
Here's one from the game vs the Twins that I'm currently playing. Again, its not a perfect sacrifice, but as you can see, its not a "rocket" bunt.

That is Nick Martini at the plate, his bunt rating is 32.

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Here is the one I shared earlier in the thread.

That is Alex Reyes bunting.

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And apparently it does bother you since you continue to make reference how I have time and such.

Thank you for your "service."

Its a trend man. I like you bro, and im pulling for you and your family, and ive even defended you in posts and even pm's. But almost everything that comes up, you have a completely different experience and you always seem to make sure people know, multiple times, that you dont experience whatever it is they are experiencing, which makes it seem like you somehow got the only pristine copy of the Show. It gets old. It really does. And i know for a fact im not the only one. You also see home run distances on every single home run without exception. Maybe you do, i dont really know. This just happens so often that many people take what you say with a grain of salt. Maybe thats just the curse of having the only near-perfect copy of MLB the Show. If thats the case, then i apologize.

I really don't care if you or anyone else "like" me or have an issue with what I post or my experiences. I know you're not the only one. I don't care. I post my experience and my opinion just like everyone else on this forum.

You can make condescending remarks all you want and so can everyone else for that matter. I'll continue to post my experiences and my opinions. If you don't like what I post, then I suggest you make yourself familiar with the ignore button.

[KnightTemplar]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

Everyone......SDS has said they screwed with this because of stupid online. I got no real fight in the game except it’s definitely there, and not much is being said about how messed up the CPU bunting is. It’s rockets away in my version. I’ve given up on trying to figure out how to overcome the gamers side of it.

If you don’t have a problem fine.....but I’m siding w/the devs on this one. They’ve screwed up something that shouldn’t be so damned difficult.

Peace.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

You just said you wish that I would stream my bunting so you can see what I'm seeing. I said I'm not because I choose to use my time to play franchise. As for a video there is one in this thread that I've shared.

Like i said before, i was not actually expecting a stream or video. I know exactly what i would see if we got one. Which is the same thing everyone else sees. To expect otherwise would be an insult to the intelligence of others in this thread. I was using that statement to infer a point.

Here is my main point --

You say you've never experienced it. Yet, you say it is purposely designed to be difficult. You say it is designed so users have to 'practice practice practice' in order to bunt correctly. Yet you never experience hard bunts (aka rocket bunts). But you don't have time for practice mode because you are playing games. Yet you are great at bunting. That wreaks man. A lot. Just sayin'. People here aren't dumb.

And apparently it does bother you since you continue to make reference how I have time and such.

I actually just found it amusing, and used it to supplement my point of you, many times, having different definitions for things like "limited time" and "rocket bunts"

I really don't care if you or anyone else "like" me or have an issue with what I post or my experiences. I know you're not the only one. I don't care. I post my experience and my opinion just like everyone else on this forum.

That much is clear.

You can make condescending remarks all you want and so can everyone else for that matter. I'll continue to post my experiences and my opinions. If you don't like what I post, then I suggest you make yourself familiar with the ignore button.

Saying "i never experience x" every time someone brings up an issue is not constructive. And it insults the intelligence of others that post here when it happens over and over again. We all play the same game.

I have no reason to ignore you. And i really dont care if you dont care that i like you lol. I'm just stating my opinion too.

[countryboy]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

Like i said before, i was not actually expecting a stream or video. I know exactly what i would see if we got one. Which is the same thing everyone else sees. To expect otherwise would be an insult to the intelligence of others in this thread. I was using that statement to infer a point.

I've shared two in this thread, including one that just happened. Let me know if that is exactly what you expected to see.

Here is my main point --

You say you've never experienced it. Yet, you say it is purposely designed to be difficult. You say it is designed so users have to 'practice practice practice' in order to bunt correctly. Yet you never experience hard bunts (aka rocket bunts). But you don't have time for practice mode because you are playing games. Yet you are great at bunting. That wreaks man. A lot. Just sayin'. People here aren't dumb.

I said I don't have an issue with "rocket" bunts. I also said that its probably not perfectly balanced. Yes I suggested that people practice because bunting is a little more involved this year than just pressing triangle and easily laying down a perfect sacrifice bunt. No I'm not going to stream myself in practice mode just bunting continuously. And not one time did I claim to be great at bunting.

I would suggest you go back and re-read my responses and posts in this thread.

Saying "i never experience x" every time someone brings up an issue is not constructive. And it insults the intelligence of others that post here when it happens over and over again. We all play the same game.

I have no reason to ignore you. And i really dont care if you dont care that i like you lol. I'm just stating my opinion too.

So when someone has an issue that I don't experience, I'll be sure to not post that I don't experience it, as to not upset you or others in this thread. I'll just go about playing my "pristine" copy of the Show quietly, with my limited gaming time.

[KnightTemplar]

Re: Why is every bunt a rocket this year?

Yes I suggested that people practice because bunting is a little more involved this year than just pressing triangle and easily laying down a perfect sacrifice bunt.

Well, here’s where I think you lose people. I don’t hear anyone wanting to lay down a perfect sacrifice everytime. I think you forget SDS did mess with this. It’s not that it’s ‘more involved’. It’s a design issue.

I love this game, the complexity, searching for my own comfort zone, but this is ridiculous. It needs attention. I’d love to pop up an imperfect bunt to the 3rd baseman. I think that’s what people are really looking for, not easy bunting.