Bunting runners over broken?

[JTommy67]

Re: Bunting runners over broken?

In a handful of bunt attempts only one hasn't been a rocket, and it was the first attempt. I was so happy thinking they fixed the rocket issue offline until I tried it again and again. The CPU on the other hand has no problems laying down great bunts.

I'd almost bet they had this fixed when the game was released in the spring, because I remember thinking how much better it was...then at some point it went back to being ridiculous again.

With all due respect to the hard work that goes into this game, the developers should be embarrassed over the bunting mechanics. It's an incredible detraction to see so many sac bunt attempts end up in double plays...and it's not just the user...the cpu can't do it either...completely changes the dynamics of a competitive game when you know even a high-rated bunter is likely to fail at moving a runner or bounce into a double play.

Baseball gameplay cannot be considered a top priority while this has been allowed to persist for so many years.

[JHodges57]

Re: Bunting runners over broken?

Fast play the at bat when bunting. It'll work then.

[Bunselpower32]

Re: Bunting runners over broken?

Just another symptom of a outcome-oriented game.

[countryboy]

Re: Bunting runners over broken?

Has anyone who is struggling with bunting, chosen a good bunter and went into practice mode to work on it?

[mrsaito]

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I'd almost bet they had this fixed when the game was released in the spring, because I remember thinking how much better it was...then at some point it went back to being ridiculous again.

I'm running on 1.12 and I think bunting is better than it's been for a couple of years. I'm even playing an NL franchise. I should probably mention that I'm at veteran difficulty level using timing batting.

[JTommy67]

Re: Bunting runners over broken?

Has anyone who is struggling with bunting, chosen a good bunter and went into practice mode to work on it?

In fact I did...I don't think anyone is arguing there aren't things you can do to have a better chance. Some have been explained in this thread. It is possible to get sac bunts down, but not with anywhere near the consistency you'd expect. When your fear is bouncing into a double play rather than actually getting the bunt down then something's wrong.

The sheer volume of (near-impossible) bunt "shots" is cringeworthy. I'm talking about bunts that make it to the first baseman in under a second. This is outright ridiculous. Coupled with the animations (180-degree turn and throw in one motion), it renders this portion of the game almost not worth it.

And, as it's been pointed out, the cpu can't do it either. Whenever I see the cpu square around to sac bunt it's pretty much an out at second just as frequently as when I try it.

The mechanics are pathetic.

[countryboy]

Bunting runners over broken?

Not my experience at all

Myself and the cpu sacrifice bunt without issue frequently.

It’s a rare occasion in my experience for one of us to bunt into a force out at second and even more rare a double play



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[Ace2734]

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@Countryboy I envy your uncharacteristically consistent The Show gameplay

Bunting is broken for me as well. Sometimes I even bunt, switch teams, get the out at first, switch back.

[countryboy]

Re: Bunting runners over broken?

I appreciate the shallow gesture


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[kehlis]

Re: Bunting runners over broken?

Just another symptom of a outcome-oriented game.

An outcome oriented game wouldn't allow this scenario to present itself in the first place so..........

[DarthRambo]

Re: Bunting runners over broken?

Just quick manage the at bat you want to sac bunt. I always do this as a workaround and it works every time. Do this for the cpu team as well if you know they're gonna sac bunt with their pitcher. Problem solved!

[nemesis04]

Re: Bunting runners over broken?

The cpu is still bunt happy. I played the Mariners recently and Dee Gordon attempted 5 bunts in the series and none were successful. It actually ran them out of innings because of it. There is a definite problem with cpu bunt logic in the game.

[Drty_Windshield]

Re: Bunting runners over broken?

If I bunt the ball goes like 8 feet into the air and basically lands at the 2nd baseman's feet if he doesn't catch it in the air but when the CPU bunts it's like holding your arm out and simply dropping the ball. What kind of sense does that make...

[JTommy67]

Re: Bunting runners over broken?

Well, in the interest of both practicing and increasing my understanding, I set up a practice session (again) with Kyle Hendricks who I edited to a 99 bunt rating and practiced for about ten minutes (Jason Heyward on first). I used all the advice and variations that have been suggested.

I then did the same thing after setting his bunt rating to zero.

This was on Hall of Fame level with directional hitting.

I noticed, oddly enough, a higher success rate at a rating of zero than I did at 99. In both cases, however, the rate was quite low.

I then set the skill level to rookie and repeated. My success was WAY higher. Bunts were softer on average and, what's more, there were times when there was a clear out at second but the throw went to first. When this happened, it was usually the pitcher fielding. All in all, it definitely felt cleaner at the rookie level. There were still hard bunts, but not as many rockets.

It just seems based on this that ratings mattered little at the higher skill level. I could find no way to reproduce the softer bunts on Hall of Fame. But even at rookie level, it's very difficult to hit the ideal target zone on the right side, which is off the mound but halfway to the first baseman. In any scenario, I saw only a few bunts into that area, even at 99 rating. Using the right analog gives you a better chance, but bunts down the line are still hard and often right at the first baseman.

If I can figure out how to do it, I may make a video showing this, but I doubt it would do any good.

[countryboy]

Re: Bunting runners over broken?

If I bunt the ball goes like 8 feet into the air and basically lands at the 2nd baseman's feet if he doesn't catch it in the air but when the CPU bunts it's like holding your arm out and simply dropping the ball. What kind of sense does that make...

When are you squaring around to bunt?