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  • GainzBro
    Pro
    • Jul 2019
    • 680

    #136
    Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

    Originally posted by KnightTemplar
    Sort of a mixed bag for me. When I play a series I can almost predict who the other team is going to be bringing in in each game of the series, sort of like set in stone. I haven’t tried messing with attributes/sliders/slots in the pitching rotation though. This is something SDS needs to figure out, no the gamer. Heck just a one batter lefty/lefty match up would be a start.
    One batter will be gone in 2020 per mlb rules changes. Pitchers will be required to face a minimum of three batters. But I do get your point and yes this could stand to imrove. But I still have no complaints with bullpen usage as the CPU has played matchups with me before. But yes they can become predictable. Thankfully each pitcher's stuff can vary from game to game which keeps it challenging and fun.

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    • Caulfield
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 10986

      #137
      Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

      Originally posted by GainzBro
      One batter will be gone in 2020 per mlb rules changes. Pitchers will be required to face a minimum of three batters. But I do get your point and yes this could stand to imrove. But I still have no complaints with bullpen usage as the CPU has played matchups with me before. But yes they can become predictable. Thankfully each pitcher's stuff can vary from game to game which keeps it challenging and fun.

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      if the Show adds the new rule, I'd sure wish there would be an option to toggle ON/OFF, for us classic roster users but I'm betting against that happening. in any event, I expect bullpen logic will be on a lot of folks minds next spring when that 1 batter faced rule takes affect.
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      • GainzBro
        Pro
        • Jul 2019
        • 680

        #138
        Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

        In the game I just played the cpu brought in a righty to start the 8th against my 2 righty batters then brought in a lefty to face my next two lefty batters. So this does exist in the game.

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        • GainzBro
          Pro
          • Jul 2019
          • 680

          #139
          Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

          Just to add on in the game I'm currently playing I had bases loaded in the bottom 8 down by 2 and the cpu went righty, lefty, righty out of their pen to face my 3 hitters.

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          • Culture Rot
            MVP
            • Aug 2011
            • 3018

            #140
            Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

            The worst? you havent played baseball games for too long I suppose

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            • garry1221
              Rookie
              • Jul 2017
              • 152

              #141
              Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

              Originally posted by GainzBro
              In the game I just played the cpu brought in a righty to start the 8th against my 2 righty batters then brought in a lefty to face my next two lefty batters. So this does exist in the game.

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              I wish there was a way to see the CPU's stamina in these situations. I'm happy to hear this happened. If it happens more than once, even better. My skepticism has me questioning what the cpu bp's stamina's were... But still its good news in the grand scheme of things.

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              • GainzBro
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                • Jul 2019
                • 680

                #142
                Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                Dude it is happening to me almost every game now over a 5-6 game stretch.

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                • garry1221
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2017
                  • 152

                  #143
                  Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                  Originally posted by GainzBro
                  Dude it is happening to me almost every game now over a 5-6 game stretch.

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                  Curiousity has taken hold. What are your sliders, specifically pitching related, set at? Overall, it's great news though. I don't let my lack of skill hinder my team, so I'm straight sim. That's why I'm wondering. No way of witnessing in my own game.

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                  • GainzBro
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2019
                    • 680

                    #144
                    Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                    Originally posted by garry1221
                    Curiousity has taken hold. What are your sliders, specifically pitching related, set at? Overall, it's great news though. I don't let my lack of skill hinder my team, so I'm straight sim. That's why I'm wondering. No way of witnessing in my own game.
                    Hitting on all star with human fouls at 4, cpu strike frequency at 3 all others concerning user hitting and cpu pitching unadjusted. I do hit on HOF some games as I'm trying to get better then I knock cpu control to 4 and bump strike frequency to 4.

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                    • garry1221
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2017
                      • 152

                      #145
                      Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                      Originally posted by GainzBro
                      Hitting on all star with human fouls at 4, cpu strike frequency at 3 all others concerning user hitting and cpu pitching unadjusted. I do hit on HOF some games as I'm trying to get better then I knock cpu control to 4 and bump strike frequency to 4.

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                      Starter, reliever staminas, and manager hook all at 5 (default)? And still having cpu trying to match batters? That's great news as far as bullpen logic goes. It sounds like we were heard and a patch happened. If others have seen this happen to them, it'd be great to see corroboration.

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                      • Aviator87AC
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 389

                        #146
                        Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                        I really haven't noticed significantly poor AI Bullpen logic. With A&S sliders on HOF the game plays splendid.

                        For those wondering, the AI definitely plays the matchups (lefty on lefty, etc). There is even commentary for it by Vasgersian.
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                        • GainzBro
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2019
                          • 680

                          #147
                          Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                          Originally posted by Aviator87AC
                          I really haven't noticed significantly poor AI Bullpen logic. With A&S sliders on HOF the game plays splendid.

                          For those wondering, the AI definitely plays the matchups (lefty on lefty, etc). There is even commentary for it by Vasgersian.
                          Exactly what I'm seeing. I based my sliders off A&S but slightly tweaked them for my skill level.

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                          • GainzBro
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                            • Jul 2019
                            • 680

                            #148
                            Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                            Originally posted by garry1221
                            Starter, reliever staminas, and manager hook all at 5 (default)? And still having cpu trying to match batters? That's great news as far as bullpen logic goes. It sounds like we were heard and a patch happened. If others have seen this happen to them, it'd be great to see corroboration.
                            Yes

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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52730

                              #149
                              Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                              Originally posted by garry1221
                              Starter, reliever staminas, and manager hook all at 5 (default)? And still having cpu trying to match batters? That's great news as far as bullpen logic goes. It sounds like we were heard and a patch happened. If others have seen this happen to them, it'd be great to see corroboration.
                              I play with all sliders at default and notice the CPU make pitching changes based on matchups.

                              It doesn't always happen but it does happen.
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                              • DarthRambo
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                                • Mar 2008
                                • 6630

                                #150
                                Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                                Decided to buy MLB 20 on sale for $25. This bullpen logic is still of course a huge problem after only playing one game. So dug up this thread to refresh my memory. In the process of adjusting AI bullpens and will quick manage literally every game to get the best out of it.

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