Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

[countryboy]

Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

for the record, me being a culprit introducing clutch into the mix (at least in this thread), I'll state I havent seen that clutch more than minimally affects my personal game experience, clutch is negligible at best. I did say IF any boost is coming into play, its clutch, and perhaps combining a batters and pitchers clutch could potentially skewer the at-bat. But I dont know because I havent personally witnessed. And then I remembered a handful of non-edible quirks as well. My only real reason for mentioning clutch is because it makes more sense than an completely wasted year.

But that's the thing. When you introduced it the OP actually thought there could be something to it and even went on to mention the CLUTCH rating as being a possible culprit.

So why not test it out? If nothing else, you eliminate the possibility of CLUTCH being the culprit for the "boost" or whatever it is some are experiencing.

If the goal is to find a remedy, then why not see if there are things the USER himself can do to help with the issue, pass that info along to the devs and go from there?

[Padgoi]

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But that's the thing. When you introduced it the OP actually thought there could be something to it and even went on to mention the CLUTCH rating as being a possible culprit.



So why not test it out? If nothing else, you eliminate the possibility of CLUTCH being the culprit for the "boost" or whatever it is some are experiencing.



If the goal is to find a remedy, then why not see if there are things the USER himself can do to help with the issue, pass that info along to the devs and go from there?

Who really wants to zero out the clutch rating for 2700 players? That's probably why.
I do think the clutch rating may be involved though.

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[Caulfield]

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But that's the thing. When you introduced it the OP actually thought there could be something to it and even went on to mention the CLUTCH rating as being a possible culprit.

So why not test it out? If nothing else, you eliminate the possibility of CLUTCH being the culprit for the "boost" or whatever it is some are experiencing.


If the goal is to find a remedy, then why not see if there are things the USER himself can do to help with the issue, pass that info along to the devs and go from there?

though it's too late for the Show 20 Wishlist, this reminds me of something I need to post there anyways.

[countryboy]

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Who really wants to zero out the clutch rating for 2700 players? That's probably why.
I do think the clutch rating may be involved though.

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Why do you need to zero out the clutch rating for every player?

Zero it out for the two teams that playing (50 players if you include the pitchers) and then play the game and see what happens.

Yes it may be a bit tedious, but how is not worth trying if its a remote possibility that it could resolve your issue?

[Padgoi]

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Why do you need to zero out the clutch rating for every player?



Zero it out for the two teams that playing (50 players if you include the pitchers) and then play the game and see what happens.



Yes it may be a bit tedious, but how is not worth trying if its a remote possibility that it could resolve your issue?

I may try this. Worth a shot.

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[kehlis]

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There are some guys.....and there are only a few of them on the planet and only a few we may see in our own lifetime that have that talent and ability to hit a baseball coming at 98 MPH or here is another one and a better explanation of “clutch”

Kirk Gibson.

Kirk did his homework on this guy named Dennis Eckersley. He was arguably one of the most dominant closers in the game between 1988 and 1990.

Kirk knew on 3-2 he loved to come back door slider. It was his money/out pitch.

He sat on it. And he crushed it for one of the greatest clutch moments in baseball history.

Why?

Preparation and Talent colliding.

And he did it on one leg which makes it even more unlikely. But we were talking about Kirk Gibson who in his prime was an absolute stud player.

Some guys simply have always been clutch in big moments.

Craig Nettles
Reggie Jackson
Derek Jeter

Just to name some great Yankees.

It’s not random. It is ungodly talent combined with incredible mental preparation.

The only way you hit sliders, curves and changeups is if you are sitting on them.

If you can’t hit a fastball go play soccer.




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Thank you.

That's not clutch, it's exactly what you said.

Talent and preparation.

[TripleCrown]

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Why do you need to zero out the clutch rating for every player?

Zero it out for the two teams that playing (50 players if you include the pitchers) and then play the game and see what happens.

Yes it may be a bit tedious, but how is not worth trying if its a remote possibility that it could resolve your issue?

It reminds me it would be nice to have some extended roster editing tools like : Reduce this rating all across the board by 10% by example.

Edit: i meant in game not external 3rd party tool

[KnightTemplar]

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for the record, me being a culprit introducing clutch into the mix (at least in this thread), I'll state I havent seen that clutch more than minimally affects my personal game experience, clutch is negligible at best.

But, how do you determine it’s got to be this attribute when you “see” something. I remember in the High Heat PC game attributes, such as errors, had a percentage assigned that the mods could change to actually dictate that an error would occur every .000045% of balls put in play (don’t quote me on the percentage), but some lucky fielder was going to boot a ball sometime, somewhere in the game.

I would think those kinds of calculations are used here, but in a much more comprehensive and technical way.

When I see an unfortunate error that costs me....I don’t mind. I would think human nature of some are thrilled when it happens to their benefit and controllers might not get thrown.

[Padgoi]

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Thank you.



That's not clutch, it's exactly what you said.



Talent and preparation.

Exactly. People said Arod wasn't clutch... Until 2009.
We can't even tell if trout is clutch because he's never been deep into the postseason.
Clutch is nonsense in baseball. It seems like just that... a way to keep things interesting.


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[KnightTemplar]

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Who really wants to zero out the clutch rating for 2700 players? That's probably why.
I do think the clutch rating may be involved though.

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Do it for your team and the team your playing.

[Caulfield]

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But, how do you determine it’s got to be this attribute when you “see” something. I remember in the High Heat PC game attributes, such as errors, had a percentage assigned that the mods could change to actually dictate that an error would occur every .000045% of balls put in play (don’t quote me on the percentage), but some lucky fielder was going to boot a ball sometime, somewhere in the game.

I would think those kinds of calculations are used here, but in a much more comprehensive and technical way.


When I see an unfortunate error that costs me....I don’t mind. I would think human nature of some are thrilled when it happens to their benefit and controllers might not get thrown.

another excellent example I havent even contemplated. I dont do manual fielding so at some point it is the cpu deciding when I fumble the ball. I wonder if the same force is in control of errors when manual fielding vs auto. I would think w/manual fielding there probably should be far far less cpu input into deciding how often errors occur. and I just assume that is the case. Because IMO a players fielding ratings should still bare some fruit, no matter how well one may be on the sticks.

[TheWarmWind]

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Umm guys, I only brought up the comeback code thing to prove a point, not to re-spark the debate.

If my memory serves me right, the devs have said in the past that clutch only had a very minor impact in select situations.

Personally, as far as real life is concerned, I believe in clutch. I know I for one perform better under pressure.

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[Caulfield]

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Umm guys, I only brought up the comeback code thing to prove a point, not to re-spark the debate.

If my memory serves me right, the devs have said in the past that clutch only had a very minor impact in select situations.

this is like saying a particular surgery is minor. but its not minor when its performed on me

Personally, as far as real life is concerned, I believe in clutch. I know I for one perform better under pressure.

as Perennial King Of All Procrastinators, I approve this message, just not tonight. tomorrow...maybe.


I cant do what needs to be done...until it NEEDS doing.

[KnightTemplar]

Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

If my memory serves me right, the devs have said in the past that clutch only had a very minor impact in select situations.

Personally, as far as real life is concerned, I believe in clutch. I know I for one perform better under pressure.

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Yeah, I seem to remember that. We really don’t know how much weight is given to the clutch rating. Don’t know when it might kick in. We really haven’t a clue. In all my years of playing have I seen the game give me constant WTH moments as has been expressed. If I did I just hang up my cleats(controller)

[Caulfield]

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Yeah, I seem to remember that. We really don’t know how much weight is given to the clutch rating. Don’t know when it might kick in. We really haven’t a clue. In all my years of playing have I seen the game give me constant WTH moments as has been expressed. If I did I just hang up my cleats(controller)

If I'm not mistaken your cleat rumbles in clutch moments, when/if you have vibrate on.