MLB The Show 20 Impressions Thread

[TnT1tan]

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- I wanted to love the new fielding meter, but I HATE it. This is one thing they did a lousy job of implementing. The bar just moves too fast. There's too much you have to do too quickly that allows for accuracy. If you don't nail the green it ALWAYS results in a bad throw, pulling guys off bases or botching clear routine double plays.






Still a work in progress. I don't know if I'll release sliders this year. Sometimes it becomes a collective chore when I really just want to enjoy the game.

Yeah I agree with you on almost all of your points and I'm having a blast this year, mainly because the game just feels polished and smooth.

My only real gripe is the Fielding meter also. I can only recall ONE play where a yellow throw didn't result in an error. I like the feature but if you hit the yellow it shouldn't be a horrible throw every single time. I've had several occasions throwing the ball into the dugout by missing the meter by the narrowest possible margin. A red throw I'm fine with being an error or bad throw every time, but every yellow throw shouldn't either pull your 1B off the bag or sail over his head. Maybe 70% of the time(just a rough estimate) it should, but so far it seems to punish you every single time.

Also I believe I've used your sliders before, but I agree. I've never been a slider 'creator" but I've spent MANY hours tinkering with sliders created from a lot of guys on here. Maybe if you feel the itch to post your sliders go for it, but I feel this game plays so well that no one should spend too much time messing with it.

Thanks for the good analysis and glad you're enjoying the game!

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[Vercingetirex]

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Out of the box I have changed very few sliders. It plays that well. Compared to last year I needed to address several sliders. Hall of fame zone hitting, legend meter pitching.

The only things I have changed are fastball and offspeed to 7 (this is a preference slider anyways, everyone will like different settings). Foul ball frequency turned down to 3 for the computer, 4 for the player. The fielder speed to 4. Which is way different from years past. Usually needing to set fielder speed to 2 or 3 and reaction to 2 or 3 to allow XBH and bloop hits to drop. I guess the animations for outfielder jumps and reaction times has made all the difference.

Everything else is untouched and I am seeing a good variety of hits, homeruns from both sides, and strikeout totals from starting pitchers being pretty great as well.

This is a 9.5/10. Almost near perfection for gameplay. I am hoping next gen improvements to swing and pitching animations are done, as that is one glaring issue. Also franchise needs some serious overhauls and improvements.

[stealyerface]

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Yeah I agree with you on almost all of your points and I'm having a blast this year, mainly because the game just feels polished and smooth.

My only real gripe is the Fielding meter also. I can only recall ONE play where a yellow throw didn't result in an error. I like the feature but if you hit the yellow it shouldn't be a horrible throw every single time. I've had several occasions throwing the ball into the dugout by missing the meter by the narrowest possible margin. A red throw I'm fine with being an error or bad throw every time, but every yellow throw shouldn't either pull your 1B off the bag or sail over his head. Maybe 70% of the time(just a rough estimate) it should, but so far it seems to punish you every single time.

Also I believe I've used your sliders before, but I agree. I've never been a slider 'creator" but I've spent MANY hours tinkering with sliders created from a lot of guys on here. Maybe if you feel the itch to post your sliders go for it, but I feel this game plays so well that no one should spend too much time messing with it.

Thanks for the good analysis and glad you're enjoying the game!

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You hit one of my gripes on the head....

Yellow should be a throw that is in the dirt, maybe short-hops the first baseman, or is off-line just a bit.

Now, when that happens, the rating for the fielder receiving the ball comes into play. So, when you substitute your power hitting 1B in the late innings to gain better defense, now the percentage of yellow throws that the error gets saved on, is based on the receiving fielder as well...

Green, and perfect throws will be easy to receive, and will have little effect on the second half of the play.

Red throws sail the bag, or are just way off the mark, because that happens in real life too.

Yellow gets a dice roll, and it is based on the input, and the ratings of the fielder to either make the scoop and save the error, or McGuire it, and have it bounce off the mitt.

Agree 100% on the yellow throw.

~syf

[TnT1tan]

Re: MLB The Show 20 Impressions Thread

You hit one of my gripes on the head....



Yellow should be a throw that is in the dirt, maybe short-hops the first baseman, or is off-line just a bit.



Now, when that happens, the rating for the fielder receiving the ball comes into play. So, when you substitute your power hitting 1B in the late innings to gain better defense, now the percentage of yellow throws that the error gets saved on, is based on the receiving fielder as well...



Green, and perfect throws will be easy to receive, and will have little effect on the second half of the play.



Red throws sail the bag, or are just way off the mark, because that happens in real life too.



Yellow gets a dice roll, and it is based on the input, and the ratings of the fielder to either make the scoop and save the error, or McGuire it, and have it bounce off the mitt.



Agree 100% on the yellow throw.



~syf

^This.

You broke it down and worded it much better but yeah that's exactly what I was hoping for. Hopefully it's something that they'll look at.

Overall though I know it's not a huge deal especially offline. I was playing a ranked game earlier started to lag a little(pitch meter and everything) for a half an inning and so of course it resulted in a yellow throw, which resulted in my mailing the ball over my 1B head into the dugout.

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[KnightTemplar]

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Well, ain’t that a surprise. Had a batter hit a lazy single up the middle. My CF comes in picks up the ball and I have him nonchalantly throw the ball to the cut off man and the next thing I know the runner is sliding head first into second. Never EVER would have happened last year. Pay attention boys. Love it!

[mkharsh33]

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I would strongly suggest to guys having issues with too many hits to raise the starting pitching stamina to 7.

They seem to tire quickly, and when they get tired they groove a number of pitches down the pike.

If you are selective and take a lot of pitches, you'll get their count up. But you'll also see a "normal" stamina fall with 7 - this seems to by the sweet spot that I've settled on.

[slthree]

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For those having trouble with runners rounding the bag at third and heading home smoothly, I’ll tell you what I do because I don’t see these problems.

The moment I hit the ball I command the runner at second to come home. It only takes a split second to process if you need to send him back or if you need to stop him at third base.

I always give the command to the lead runner the moment I make contact. We already know the batter has a few seconds to get to first base anyway so we’re not in a rush to give him a command

I’ll freely admit I don’t normally look at replays of runners scoring from 2nd on base hits, so it’s remotely possible my guy does stutter or stumble as he rounds 3rd and I don’t notice. But, I think I’d notice

Hope this helps

[ty5oke]

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I've been randomly entering games ruing a simmed franchise mode to see how presentation is. Watching the games in broadcast mode while i "WFH".

Positives:
+ The new pop-up OSD over the player names showing a variety of stats is very nice. I love this addition, hopefully some of the bugs/kinks will get ironed out in patches.
+ In line with above, it was cool to see they also had players rankings in all star voting for their position.
+ Commentary hasn't been as bad as I thought, especially when mentioning things like avg with RISP, last games stats, etc. Could be better but better than nothing.

Negatives:
- After a big trade, Josh Bell being sent to Angels for some prospects, I jumped right into the next Pirates game to watch. No mention of the trade at all which was very disappointing. It was a big enough deal to stop my sim and give me the trade recap but not enough to be mentioned in the broadcast??
- Watched a few games within the final week before ASG. I was hoping for some OSD's for all star voting in each league but haven't seen anything yet.

[baseballguy99]

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Man I hate the homerun “POV” camera... I just don’t understand why no option is given. It honestly ruins the game for me. I also don’t understand why I can’t use real sounds of the show in place of default sound effects. These are really simple issues that go a long way in helping feel immersed

Yes the gameplay is a slight step forward, but many things around it are stagnant. Crowd audio not reacting to no doubt homers till the ball is in the stands is another immersion killer imo

[Jaystar8083]

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Baseball99 I agree with the HR Camera thing. I really hate it because I like to see the bombs I hit land in the crowd. The last two no doubters were obscured by the player jogging to first. Maybe I'm just anal when it comes to things. Sds, just wish there was an option to toggle on or off if most people like it and some don't.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

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I've played alot the last weekend here are my thoughts on gameplay. I play button defense and classic pitching with zone hitting all on HOF.

Pitching. I do not see a huge difference with pitching except catcher blocking is better allowing me to work out of the zone more. There are some more swing and misses which I like.

Hitting. I find it too easy. I am not a stick Jockey but tend to get around 10 perfect-perfect's a game. I believe prerelease we were told would only be a 2% of hits would produce that. It causes too many homeruns.

Defense: I find it hard to get to groundballs. There are more seeing eye singles. Outfield defensive players seem slower. I'm not necessarily seeing in between balls or the risk indicator. I'm not sure if it is because I play button. With button the throw home indicator and catching throws do not have the new feature.

The gameplay overall is better, but is not a giant leap forward.

Franchise is largely unchanged. As addressed in my other post legacy bugs still exist and salaries may be worst than before. Players earn less than they did in arbitration and payrolls go down instead of up. Default roster is unplayable due to the massive amount of trades that occur, unstoppable with trade slider, to balance the roster. 3rd party rosters due solve that, but do not solve the options issues.

I think with some tweaks to salary demands and rosters the game will still be my favorite show game, but it is looking long in the tooth. I have played through a season of March to October and dislike it immensely. No control over rosters and limited and disconnected from the league. If the intent is to move franchise here then I will be respectfully moving away from the Show franchise. It is a mode that is good to learn mechanics, but IS NOT a FRANCHISE lite mode.

As is I give the game a 7.5. With tweaks to hitting difficulty and franchise I could see it being a 8.5.

I feel the game switching more to the stick control than sim side of gaming.

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[bkrich83]

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I've played alot the last weekend here are my thoughts on gameplay. I play button defense and classic pitching with zone hitting all on HOF.

Pitching. I do not see a huge difference with pitching except catcher blocking is better allowing me to work out of the zone more. There are some more swing and misses which I like.

Hitting. I find it too easy. I am not a stick Jockey but tend to get around 10 perfect-perfect's a game. I believe prerelease we were told would only be a 2% of hits would produce that. It causes too many homeruns.

Defense: I find it hard to get to groundballs. There are more seeing eye singles. Outfield defensive players seem slower. I'm not necessarily seeing in between balls or the risk indicator. I'm not sure if it is because I play button. With button the throw home indicator and catching throws do not have the new feature.

The gameplay overall is better, but is not a giant leap forward.

Franchise is largely unchanged. As addressed in my other post legacy bugs still exist and salaries may be worst than before. Players earn less than they did in arbitration and payrolls go down instead of up. Default roster is unplayable due to the massive amount of trades that occur, unstoppable with trade slider, to balance the roster. 3rd party rosters due solve that, but do not solve the options issues.

I think with some tweaks to salary demands and rosters the game will still be my favorite show game, but it is looking long in the tooth. I have played through a season of March to October and dislike it immensely. No control over rosters and limited and disconnected from the league. If the intent is to move franchise here then I will be respectfully moving away from the Show franchise. It is a mode that is good to learn mechanics, but IS NOT a FRANCHISE lite mode.

As is I give the game a 7.5. With tweaks to hitting difficulty and franchise I could see it being a 8.5.

I feel the game switching more to the stick control than sim side of gaming.

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This is basically how I see it as well. I play with the same setup.


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[mcinnisbr]

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Baseball99 I agree with the HR Camera thing. I really hate it because I like to see the bombs I hit land in the crowd. The last two no doubters were obscured by the player jogging to first. Maybe I'm just anal when it comes to things. Sds, just wish there was an option to toggle on or off if most people like it and some don't.

100%. I want to see the damage coming off my bat and not see a canned animation scene. Takes away from the immersion. Option to toggle this off!

On another note, when I'm pitching, I'd love to see the ball come off my opponents bat for a split second instead of automatically changing to the fielding view.

[baseballguy99]

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100%. I want to see the damage coming off my bat and not see a canned animation scene. Takes away from the immersion. Option to toggle this off!



On another note, when I'm pitching, I'd love to see the ball come off my opponents bat for a split second instead of automatically changing to the fielding view.

Really wish someone from Sony would comment on this. Great to see Brian SCEA communicating with others about gameplay, would love to ask him for this option to return. I feel so strongly against the hr camera but an option makes everyone happy

[TripleCrown]

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*** Triple Asterisk*** No collision detection, and infielders and runners still morph through each other with no respect for the rules of physics and spatial occupancy. It is so go***** lame I have to mention this every year. I had a play at second where the CPU turned a double play, and the annoucer had the gall, the absolute GALL, to say, "Man, that is where guys get hurt. Those collisions can be devastating", and during the replay of the second baseman turning the DP, the runner went RIGHT THROUGH the second baseman's body. If you are seriously going to have a script read about how dangerous collisions can be, but then, in the case of that exact thing happening, in 2020, you have the two players morph through each other, it is just seriously lame. World Series '99 had fielder/fielder as well as fielder/runner collisions. Maybe we see it on PS5, but man oh man.... I have beaten this horse for five years...

Thanks for your extensive review !!! About collisions, I do agree. It’s a shame they can’t do a 2 guys collision system under a PS4. It’s not like a 11vs11 football game or 6vs6 NHL game. Collisions in a baseball game are very predictable and most of the time they’re 1 vs 1.