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  • TheBleedingRed21
    Game Dev
    • Oct 2010
    • 5071

    #46
    Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

    Originally posted by Jr.
    This is why I use auto fielding. Issues like this about not having your player in the right position to make a simple animation trigger drove me crazy in the past

    Sent from my SM-G970U using Operation Sports mobile app
    I would definitely agree with this, it’s all I use offline. However custom leagues don’t let you use auto fielding.
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    • dms14
      Rookie
      • Feb 2019
      • 54

      #47
      Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

      I'm running into the same problem with the outfielders not locking on either.

      I can remember this being an issue at the beginning of last year too, so it seems like it's happening again.

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      • PS9119
        Rookie
        • Jan 2003
        • 225

        #48
        Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

        It remains a botched system even after the updates hard to judge and fielders still do not lock on

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        • raneman85
          Pro
          • Apr 2010
          • 831

          #49
          Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

          It seems like there is a greater penalty this year for putting outfielders in secondary positions. Then you have guys like Ralph Kiner and Kyle Schwarber who field like Jose Canseco.
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          • coreyerb
            Rookie
            • Jul 2013
            • 88

            #50
            Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

            Just adding this to the discussion. Latest patch (version 1.07).

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            • nemesis04
              RIP Ty My Buddy
              • Feb 2004
              • 13530

              #51
              Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

              The game still has triggering issues and I see it all over the diamond not just the outfield. It pops up randomly too. The biggest thing lacking to me is you really can’t feather the left stick to the degree that you could do in the past to fine tune your fielder to make the catch.
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              • RunN1st
                MVP
                • Oct 2002
                • 2906

                #52
                Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                Originally posted by coreyerb
                Just adding this to the discussion. Latest patch (version 1.07).

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                Yeah these types of catches/non-catches happen way too often.
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                • Drop_ya_mitts
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2019
                  • 104

                  #53
                  Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                  Originally posted by underdog13
                  Great writeup Warmwind.

                  The issue though is everything you said. Frankly at this point it just isn't sim. It's turned into a user skill game of landing a helicopter than it is of player ratings. I shouldn't need superior stick skills to catch flyballs.
                  You really don't though. Bit of general help:
                  Just don't run full tilt at a ball if you don't need to so as to allow yourself time to set up an animation. If you NEED to sprint full tilt to make the play the game knows this and the animation triggers as long as you take good angles etc and get your timing down.
                  Now, I consider myself a very strong fielder (plenty of other areas of the game I need to get better at) and haven't had any issues fielding fly balls. Had a moments on some line drives that I've had to really REALLY judge well to get to the spot at the right time (as you'd expect) but idk what to say...honestly, this game plays lovely...Maybe in your case you need more practise?
                  Again, not hating on anyone...people in general need to stop saying something doesn't work because they're currently not very good at it. We need to acknowledge the fact that we're quite often not as good as we think we are. I for one don't believe fielding needs anything else done to it on this game. If there's any tangible help I can give I will. I just read what you're saying and it sounds like a different game we're playing
                  Last edited by Drop_ya_mitts; 04-06-2020, 10:36 AM.

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                  • dms14
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2019
                    • 54

                    #54
                    Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                    There's definitely an issue with fielding this year. The comparison of landing a helicopter is very accurate.

                    I really don't think it's a skill level issue as this was a big issue last year as well.

                    I was part of the thread last year where very similar issues with the fielding turned into a back and forth argument on skill vs a game issue. Turned out it was a game issue and thankfully patches lessened the problem.

                    Now I know I speak for a lot of people when I say that certain situations in the outfield do not play naturally. There have been too many times where I have my fielder in the correct spot and the animation doesn't kick in.

                    This needs to be fixed rather than trying to justify faulty mechanics.

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                    • Drop_ya_mitts
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2019
                      • 104

                      #55
                      Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                      Originally posted by dms14
                      There's definitely an issue with fielding this year. The comparison of landing a helicopter is very accurate.

                      I really don't think it's a skill level issue as this was a big issue last year as well.

                      I was part of the thread last year where very similar issues with the fielding turned into a back and forth argument on skill vs a game issue. Turned out it was a game issue and thankfully patches lessened the problem.

                      Now I know I speak for a lot of people when I say that certain situations in the outfield do not play naturally. There have been too many times where I have my fielder in the correct spot and the animation doesn't kick in.

                      This needs to be fixed rather than trying to justify faulty mechanics.

                      Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Operation Sports mobile app
                      What situations specific to you? I'd love to see what you're doing when you say the animations don't occur because it can absolutely be user skill as the issue.
                      Again, we know SDS patched an issue with some animations under fly balls not triggering but that's not to say you're not the issue.
                      Data needs to be collected. Vids captured, bugs reported.

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                      • dms14
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2019
                        • 54

                        #56
                        Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                        Originally posted by Drop_ya_mitts
                        What situations specific to you? I'd love to see what you're doing when you say the animations don't occur because it can absolutely be user skill as the issue.
                        Again, we know SDS patched an issue with some animations under fly balls not triggering but that's not to say you're not the issue.
                        Data needs to be collected. Vids captured, bugs reported.
                        Look through this thread. There are clips of this issue happening.

                        Look at CujoMatty's videos - the animation is not kicking in.

                        They're not even counting as errors when they happen either, so it's looking like this is a fundamental problem with the gameplay mechanics.

                        There are enough people in this thread that are having issues, and there is video evidence of it too.

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                        • TriniGodzilla
                          Just started!
                          • May 2014
                          • 4

                          #57
                          Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                          I agree, I've been playing the Show since it debuted for PS4 so it's definitely not a skill issue. Ive had outfielders run to the spot stand for a second and watch the ball bounce off their head, They just don't turn around. It seems to have gotten a bit better since the last patch 1.07. Playing today I have a created SS who is a 99 in every category and watched him field a routine ground ball and for some strange reason he ran for 3 steps after fielding the ball then went into the animation for throwing and the baserunner who is a 61 for speed beat the throw(baserunner speed is at default).

                          On another note that same created player struggles to hit HRs. He's 4th on the team in HRs meanwhile Pete Alonso , Conforto & Cano all hit bombs when they homer. I create this same player every year and he usually hits long HRs often, this year the guy hits wall scrapers at best.

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                          • nemesis04
                            RIP Ty My Buddy
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 13530

                            #58
                            Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                            This one was ugly the other night. First baseman tag animation does not trigger, it also does not let me throw and really bad clipping at the end, yuck.


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                            • AUTiger1
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 2413

                              #59
                              Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                              Originally posted by dms14
                              Look through this thread. There are clips of this issue happening.

                              Look at CujoMatty's videos - the animation is not kicking in.

                              They're not even counting as errors when they happen either, so it's looking like this is a fundamental problem with the gameplay mechanics.

                              There are enough people in this thread that are having issues, and there is video evidence of it too.

                              Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Operation Sports mobile app

                              But some of us aren't. I for one am not having issues catching fly balls. If it were some kind of major game play bug everyone would be having the same issues, not just some people.
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                              • 405Cowboy
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 1488

                                #60
                                Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                                It's weird while playing with the White Sox a routine flyball was hit to right and for whatever reason Nomar Mazara waved his arms and ran away from the ball and was charged with an error?????
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