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  • baconbits11
    MVP
    • Oct 2014
    • 2608

    #61
    Re: I think I'm done....

    Originally posted by Mackrel829
    Anyone else feel like the game is scripted at times? Every time I'm having a big game, the CPU randomly has a huge inning to get back in it. I feel like you're never allowed to have a convincing victory.

    Case in point - just had a game against the Diamondbacks that I had to turn off halfway through. I hit first, and had a good opening inning batting in two runs. I knew exactly what to expect in the bottom of the first though and, sure enough, Arizona also hit two runs. I regained and extended my lead over the course of the next few innings. I was hitting really well and was 7-2 up going into the 6th. All of sudden, my fielders are making errors all over the place and my pitcher (91 ovr) can no longer miss the bat. One run comes across, then the bases become loaded with two outs. Up steps some random minor leaguer making his MLB debut. He has batting stats in the mid 20s for the most part. He's an absolute bag of garbage. Nevertheless, he hits a grand slam and the game is tied.

    You can just feel it coming. It doesn't matter who the pitcher is or who is due up.
    I never feel like it is scripted and if something happens (a rally by the CPU) it's that I left a pitcher in too long. Sometimes though it's just baseball! Curious did you make a pitching change in that 6th inning?

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    • Mackrel829
      MVP
      • Mar 2019
      • 1261

      #62
      Re: I think I'm done....

      Originally posted by baconbits11
      I never feel like it is scripted and if something happens (a rally by the CPU) it's that I left a pitcher in too long. Sometimes though it's just baseball! Curious did you make a pitching change in that 6th inning?
      I didn't. Though my starter was still on green. It was getting low but not yet yellow.

      How exactly does energy impact pitching? Does it literally lower the pitcher's attributes?

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      • KnightTemplar
        MVP
        • Feb 2017
        • 3282

        #63
        Re: I think I'm done....

        Originally posted by Mackrel829
        I didn't. Though my starter was still on green. It was getting low but not yet yellow.

        How exactly does energy impact pitching? Does it literally lower the pitcher's attributes?
        All I can say is I check the pitch counts and after 5 innings I’m looking to the bullpen, maybe just up and tossing. If the pitchers confidence is up he can do okay when the green bar is getting low, but I’ve stuck with a pitcher “one more batter” and it’s bitten me. I’m sure this has lots to do with that “comeback code”. If you let it go to yellow...open the spigot and hope your bullpen is warmed up.
        Last edited by KnightTemplar; 07-30-2020, 01:30 PM.

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        • Mackrel829
          MVP
          • Mar 2019
          • 1261

          #64
          Re: I think I'm done....

          Originally posted by KnightTemplar
          All I can say is I check the pitch counts and after 5 innings I’m looking to the bullpen, maybe just up and tossing. If the pitchers confidence is up he can do okay when the green bar is getting low, but I’ve stuck with a pitcher “one more batter” and it’s bitten me. I’m sure this has lots to do with that “comeback code”. If you let it go to yellow...open the spigot and hope your bullpen is warmed up.
          I rarely leave my starter in past 5 innings but I will if his bar still looks about a third or so up and he's pitching well.

          Comeback code is exactly what it feels like. Feels like the CPU has to make sure that the game is even by the end and won't ever let it finish lop sided.

          It's probably just confirmation bias though. It's obviously frustrating to give up a 5 run lead, whereas making a 5 run comeback feels fun.

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          • JoshC1977
            All Star
            • Dec 2010
            • 11564

            #65
            Re: I think I'm done....

            Originally posted by Mackrel829
            It's probably just confirmation bias though. It's obviously frustrating to give up a 5 run lead, whereas making a 5 run comeback feels fun.
            This right here.

            Here's the thing. The TOUGHEST innings in a game are the 5th through 7th. You've likely gone through the lineup a couple of times - you HAVE to change things up that third time through the order. Even if stuff has been working all game, that third PA is tougher to pull off. This is where the game excels, you HAVE to change your tendencies - incorporate your quarternary pitches more and keep the hitters off-balance. Many real-life pitchers struggle the third time through the order (often due to lack of a 4th viable pitch or a tendency to rely on 1 or 2 pitches).

            You have to have a quick trigger on mound visits during this time and gut it out a bit more.

            I've had games where I've been able to ride things out and others where I haven't - and THAT is the fun of baseball.
            Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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            • itsmb8
              MVP
              • May 2011
              • 3361

              #66
              Re: I think I'm done....

              Was just playing Game 4 of my season, Brewers vs Cardinals.. Had the extreme shift to the right on for Carpenter, also in DP depth due to a guy on 1st.

              Grounder hit to the 3rd baseman on the left side, Im thinking "nice, easy double play to end the inning. Im already down 3 in the 6th, i needed this." Nope... Arcia playing up the middle just stands there, and Sogard waits for HIURA, FROM SHALLOW RIGHT FIELD, to run over to second. Sogard waits for FOREVER, and then throws a light toss to second, after the runner already slid in. So not only does this game not have the AI programmed to have Arcia run to 2nd, but it ALSO doesnt have the AI programmed to throw the ball to 1st in the event there isnt anyone at 2nd to throw to.

              I get I could "possibly" get around it by using manual fielding, but 1) throwing to 2nd would still throw the ball to Hiura who isnt anywhere close to the bag, and 2) if im using auto fielding, the AI shouldnt do dumb stuff like that. If I want to utilize the shifts and depths both at once, I should be able to do so without dumb stuff happening.
              Last edited by itsmb8; 07-31-2020, 12:50 AM.
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              • JHodges57
                Pro
                • Mar 2019
                • 507

                #67
                Re: I think I'm done....

                Originally posted by itsmb8
                Was just playing Game 4 of my season, Brewers vs Cardinals.. Had the extreme shift to the right on for Carpenter, also in DP depth due to a guy on 1st.

                Grounder hit to the 3rd baseman on the left side, Im thinking "nice, easy double play to end the inning. Im already down 3 in the 6th, i needed this." Nope... Arcia playing up the middle just stands there, and Sogard waits for HIURA, FROM SHALLOW RIGHT FIELD, to run over to second. Sogard waits for FOREVER, and then throws a light toss to second, after the runner already slid in. So not only does this game not have the AI programmed to have Arcia run to 2nd, but it ALSO doesnt have the AI programmed to throw the ball to 1st in the event there isnt anyone at 2nd to throw to.

                I get I could "possibly" get around it by using manual fielding, but 1) throwing to 2nd would still throw the ball to Hiura who isnt anywhere close to the bag, and 2) if im using auto fielding, the AI shouldnt do dumb stuff like that. If I want to utilize the shifts and depths both at once, I should be able to do so without dumb stuff happening.

                This is why I always mention that I play MoM when I discuss issues. It let's people who manually do things know that it isn't necessarily anything they are doing but it is how the AI plays when it's controlling things which means it's programming issues. You notice that people come up with a "work around" or solutions, but very rarely do more than a few come up with the same workaround. Most of that is because everyone has different skill levels then combine it with the issues caused by the programming.

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                • dramachild11
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 888

                  #68
                  Re: I think I'm done....

                  Two gripes with the game as a whole.. baserunning on balls hit to the gap that are DEFINITELY gonna be doubles and the lead baserunner just stands halfway between the bag like a deer in the headlights.. the other is something I could be making up but I've noticed it so much that I wonder if anyone else had experienced it.... after a homerun is hit the next batter is going to mash a ball somewhere, it may not end up as a hit but it usually does

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