Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

[Archie56]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

It can be, though.

Let me preface this by saying that I've always loved The Show for the plethora of options available to the gamer to play the game how they want. It's one thing that makes it stand out from every other sports game and a big reason why The Show is so respected.

I can empathize w/ both sides, though, b/c although I love the plethora of options to play how I want to play, I can also see where too many options can definitely be a bad thing in regards to development and truly progressing the game beyond what it actually could be.

Every addition has to be balanced w/ the other options in mind, which means the other options may have to be tuned to compensate, which only means more work for the devs when producing a yearly release game, which only means sacrificing attention spent towards more important aspects of the game. For all we know, the plethora of options could be holding this game back in ways we're not considering.

The reason I personally skip through the vast majority of presentation cut-scenes is b/c the cut-scenes haven't changed in over a decade. The presentation aspects of the game still use a lot of the same visuals and commentary lines from 15 years ago. When you spend 10-15 years seeing the same cut-scenes of the pitcher running to the mound, the same batter-walkup style, the same replay styles, etc. then it's hard not to "X" through them.

You could also say if more attention were paid to updating the presentation yearly and making it seem as fresh as possible, then more people like me would be willing to sit through them, but that just cycles back to my original point of SDS having to choose which aspect is more important to improve in their limited time-frame.

TL;DR

This has nothing to do w/ generational appeal. Like every yearly sports game, this has everything to do w/ the limited time-frame given to these devs to release a yearly title. If they had more dev time, then they could probably fit everything in and make sure every option was copacetic w/ every other option... but b/c of the limited time-frame, sometimes they're forced to choose which is more important to focus on from necessity out of their control.

Here's the thing....it's a tough balancing act bc since everyone wants different things, SDS isn't going to please everyone, so there will always be a part of the crowd that isn't happy no matter what they do. I see where you are coming from though. For me, I think sports games across the board should have alot of options that can be tailored to how people like to play. But that's just me[emoji4]

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[Jr.]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

RTP was one of the best additions to the game. My fingers are crossed it eventually comes back at some point.

[Blzer]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

The reason I personally skip through the vast majority of presentation cut-scenes is b/c the cut-scenes haven't changed in over a decade. The presentation aspects of the game still use a lot of the same visuals and commentary lines from 15 years ago. When you spend 10-15 years seeing the same cut-scenes of the pitcher running to the mound, the same batter-walkup style, the same replay styles, etc. then it's hard not to "X" through them.

But that's why RTP was good; it would capture any "random" moment that was happening at the time. Obviously the game only had so many camera selections and animations, but it helped improve upon the old canned cutscenes.

This is the same thing with the commentary for me. They have to try and get rid of the specific commentaries that tie to a certain player, team, etc. Otherwise the repetition comes in the form of recognition of those moments because it can only tie in those situations.

I'm saddened that both 2K and SDS narrowed their scope on RTP. I had so much excitement to the notion when it was first announced for MLB 2K9, and what it could mean for the future of these games. NBA 2K is doing it. EA never really adopted it, and it shows even in their PS5 versions of Madden and FIFA. Real-time presentation is the future, IMO.

[Cubfan]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

I miss RTP it was nice to see the focus on a player after a play happened. Like the infielders throwing the ball around after an out. I also don't use MLB Network's presentation package because it was nice seeing stats pop up and MLB Network doesn't use them.

[capa]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

It is sort of ironic that they removed this based on telemetry data showing people x through everything until next pitch. Yet they lock you in to watching the female dugout reporter, and also show other cut scenes that make the game play out longer.

Overall another decision where an option to use Fast Play could have remedied this while leaving the RTP intact.

C

[countryboy]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

Judging from the PRESENTATION settings/options in the Tech Test, it appears that you can turn off Heidi this year.

[countryboy]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

RTP was one of the best additions to the game. My fingers are crossed it eventually comes back at some point.

Ummm...someone turned your name green

[Caulfield]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

on my Saturday games I play w/commentary on, and what I do when pitching is let the crew quit talking before I throw a pitch. and when batting I step out of the box before every pitch to give the crew time to get more said. I'm the Human Rain Delay reincarnate lol
I can get my game length to well over 2 hours doing this (when I'm not playing w/QC on). that's really why I miss the real-time presentation, it helped me pace my games out. I've also found I win more on Saturday games because of this disciplining. I've tried doing it when I have commentary off, but it's harder for me to replicate that pace and discipline

Ummm...someone turned your name green

he got slimed

[KnightTemplar]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

I just can't take an At Bat with a 3-2 count. or 3-1 or 0-2 it's just not baseball to me. and I think it is harder to draw a walk that way. it actually makes you more lazy of a player because you feel more swing happy. then trying to draw a walk or get a feel for the at bat.

It isn't harder to draw a walk that way, for one. It does not make you more "swing happy". How would you know if you don't use it? And if you did try it and couldn't grasp it, that's on you. Look if you don't like it, just don't use the option, but don't come out judging an option because you can't grasp it. It would be like me, an AUTO base runner saying that MANUAL base running is worthless because it's just not real, it's all screwed up. When in actuality I don't use MANUAL base running because I can't.

[Jr.]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

Ummm...someone turned your name green

Yeah, now I have to be nice and stuff

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[countryboy]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

Yeah, now I have to be nice and stuff

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As Kermit the Frog would say, it ain't easy being green

[Caulfield]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

It isn't harder to draw a walk that way, for one. It does not make you more "swing happy". How would you know if you don't use it? And if you did try it and couldn't grasp it, that's on you. Look if you don't like it, just don't use the option, but don't come out judging an option because you can't grasp it. It would be like me, an AUTO base runner saying that MANUAL base running is worthless because it's just not real, it's all screwed up. When in actuality I don't use MANUAL base running because I can't.

my BoB's definitely double when I use QC plus I walk more batters also too as well but at the same time I'd classify myself more free-swinging with QC on because I'll swing at the first pitch I see a lot more then I do starting with a 0-0 count. I don't swing at every pitch w/QC on but I am ready to swing at that first one. but that's just the very nature of the beast that is quick counts.
I'd say a true free-swinger swings at every 3-0 count lol (which I never do)
also, a free-swinger ain't going to see many if any 3-0 counts w/o benefit of QC

[BlueSkies77]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

What was the last show game to use full RTP?

[Caulfield]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

What was the last show game to use full RTP?

I think A&S recently said 11 or 12. it was definitely before ps4 in any case

[BlueSkies77]

Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

I think A&S recently said 11 or 12. it was definitely before ps4 in any case

Really? That long ago? The strange thing is that I feel I distinctly remember real time gameplay and cutscenes being introduced in The Show 12. And I don’t remember at all the game auto skipping cutscenes in 13 and 14 for the PS3.