Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42519

    #46
    Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

    Originally posted by Caulfield
    I think A&S recently said 11 or 12. it was definitely before ps4 in any case
    Based on my video I just posted with 2K commentary, that is The Show 13 and it has RTP.

    I didn't own 14 to know if that had it, but maybe that's when they removed it as they went to PS4?
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    • Caulfield
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 10986

      #47
      Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

      Originally posted by BlueSkies77
      Really? That long ago? The strange thing is that I feel I distinctly remember real time gameplay and cutscenes being introduced in The Show 12. And I don’t remember at all the game auto skipping cutscenes in 13 and 14 for the PS3.
      yeah, its been awhile now. like Blzer touched on earlier, I remember playing 12 on the Vita and the presentation was a night and day experience from the ps3.
      and once the ps4 got here it kept getting cut shorter and shorter.
      also and, when they did lengthen the presentation out it was with those silly things like once reaching base, every player had to do his little stir the pot hand celebration or whatever the hell those things were supposed to be. made me mad as hell and old before my time
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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42519

        #48
        Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

        Originally posted by Caulfield
        when they did lengthen the presentation out it was with those silly things like once reaching base, every player had to do his little stir the pot hand celebration or whatever the hell those things were supposed to be. made me mad as hell and old before my time
        I don't think player reactions were introduced till whatever year the Rangers started doing the moose antlers thing... unless that was a long time ago as well, and I'm just getting old, too.
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        • Culture Rot
          MVP
          • Aug 2011
          • 3018

          #49
          Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

          It’s not the sort of thing they are ever going to “tell you why”. It was done to further shorten game length down, and clear more space for modes and features they deem more profitable.

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          • Archie56
            MVP
            • Feb 2009
            • 1556

            #50
            Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

            Originally posted by Culture Rot
            It’s not the sort of thing they are ever going to “tell you why”. It was done to further shorten game length down, and clear more space for modes and features they deem more profitable.
            And why would we as fans not want them to be more profitable? If DD brings them more money for the game, then I'm all for it even if I don't play those profitable game modes. The fact that people think that game modes get cut and are shortened bc of DD, is kinda funny to me. I would rather have them be super profitable than barely scraping by. If these game modes increase the longevity of the company and The Show, then by all means, keep profiting off DD. The hate that game mode gets is crazy to me.

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            • Jolly Roger
              Prince of Plakata
              • Sep 2011
              • 871

              #51
              Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

              I doubt Broadcast Presentation was scaled back to shorten the games since you can just play Hybrid or Short if you want shorter games. I've never noticed a difference personally, though I've never been good at remembering when certain features were created or axed.

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              • ninertravel
                MVP
                • Aug 2015
                • 4833

                #52
                Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

                Originally posted by Jolly Roger
                I doubt Broadcast Presentation was scaled back to shorten the games since you can just play Hybrid or Short if you want shorter games. I've never noticed a difference personally, though I've never been good at remembering when certain features were created or axed.
                Didn't the Devs say the reason to bring in the L2 to see lineup was to shorten the presentation last year? and made it if you wanted to you had to remember to do it yourself? I feel like if your in broadcast mode you shouldn't have to remember to do things like that yet you can't skip 'flat out' Hedi'

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                • Archie56
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1556

                  #53
                  Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

                  Originally posted by ninertravel
                  Didn't the Devs say the reason to bring in the L2 to see lineup was to shorten the presentation last year? and made it if you wanted to you had to remember to do it yourself? I feel like if your in broadcast mode you shouldn't have to remember to do things like that yet you can't skip 'flat out' Hedi'
                  At least this year we can turn off 'flat out' Heidi![emoji4]

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                  • BlueSkies77
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2018
                    • 295

                    #54
                    Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

                    Originally posted by Archie56
                    At least this year we can turn off 'flat out' Heidi![emoji4]

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                    Heidi will probably be removed all together in 2022 when they see that most people turn her off.

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                    • Caulfield
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 10986

                      #55
                      Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

                      Originally posted by Archie56
                      At least this year we can turn off 'flat out' Heidi![emoji4]

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                      wait, I didn't hear this. where was this announced?
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                      • ninertravel
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 4833

                        #56
                        Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

                        Originally posted by BlueSkies77
                        Heidi will probably be removed all together in 2022 when they see that most people turn her off.
                        she would be alright if 99% of the time she didn't keep telling us my manager was 'flat out happy' with my at bats. even if I have 1 hit and the 0 runs after 5 innings. it's either that or telling us about the rain early on in the game which 99% of the time never stops the game too.

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                        • BlueSkies77
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2018
                          • 295

                          #57
                          Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

                          Originally posted by ninertravel
                          she would be alright if 99% of the time she didn't keep telling us my manager was 'flat out happy' with my at bats. even if I have 1 hit and the 0 runs after 5 innings. it's either that or telling us about the rain early on in the game which 99% of the time never stops the game too.
                          Yeah while I do like the presentation it’s mostly just repetitive fluff and hurts the pacing of the game anyway. If it was more dynamic and variable it would be cool. Perhaps it will be better in 2021.

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                          • ninertravel
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 4833

                            #58
                            Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

                            Originally posted by BlueSkies77
                            Yeah while I do like the presentation it’s mostly just repetitive fluff and hurts the pacing of the game anyway. If it was more dynamic and variable it would be cool. Perhaps it will be better in 2021.
                            I love presentation but it's just so hard to get commentary right with sports games. with the the show they crap on about AVG and ERA being the only stats that matter when discussing a player. even if the player had a OBP of 400 it would be 'he is struggling only hitting 190 to start the season'.

                            it frustrates me. but that's just the way sports games are it can never ben done dynamically right.

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                            • canes21
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 22921

                              #59
                              Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

                              Originally posted by ninertravel
                              I love presentation but it's just so hard to get commentary right with sports games. with the the show they crap on about AVG and ERA being the only stats that matter when discussing a player. even if the player had a OBP of 400 it would be 'he is struggling only hitting 190 to start the season'.



                              it frustrates me. but that's just the way sports games are it can never ben done dynamically right.
                              It can be done dynamically right, it's just not a priority. Practically all developers just focus on the unique stories and trying to get back and forth banter in the game. None of them focus on being generic in the right manner with the emphasis being on dynamic stat tracking. That's why all of the games get irritatingly repetitive. All of them will be repetitive no matter what, but it doesn't have to be repetitive in a poor manner, it's just the way all of these companies build their commentary.

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                              • baseballguy99
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2019
                                • 932

                                #60
                                Re: Were we ever told why Real-Time Presentation was removed?

                                Originally posted by Archie56
                                At least this year we can turn off 'flat out' Heidi![emoji4]

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                                Now we need the option to turn off the HR camera and all is good

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