MLB The Show 21: Stadium Creator and Next-Gen Details

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  • beau21
    It's 5 o'clock somewhere
    • Oct 2007
    • 1813

    #16
    Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

    I knew that stadium creator would be the meat of the stream today, but I’m surprised there wasn’t really any other next gen discussion (save haptic feedback). Not even a mention of anything related to frame rate, textures, face scans, lighting, etc.

    Honestly it just furthers my assumption that they’re working on bigger graphical changes in the background. I think an update to player models, cloth physics, animations, and lighting are all closely tied together and may be in progress in the background as a 2-3 year process.


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    • douggoud
      Rookie
      • Feb 2010
      • 473

      #17
      Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

      Originally posted by green94
      This makes me yearn for the dude who talked in so much detail about lighting a few years back that i forgot I was watching a stream about a baseball game.
      I get the feeling these weren't necessarily streams as much as they were videos prepared ahead of time. These streams weren't anything like the streams of years past, and I assume COVID had something to do with that. I think streams in the past would be like an hour or so long and they seemed a little more all over the place but had more time to talk about things. These videos are more like, 20 minutes on the average, and I wonder why they chose to only talk about them for that much.

      Either way, I'm happy because Stadium creator was what I wanted to hear about the most. I'm happy where the game is graphically (and I dunno what it was, but the dirt and grass in the video today looked different from last year. Might have been the grass type though). I'm just ready to start building stadiums and have some fun with it.
      Last edited by douggoud; 04-08-2021, 05:47 PM.
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      • Bullit
        Bacon is Better
        • Aug 2009
        • 5004

        #18
        Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

        Still would like to know if they have added any of these SDS created stadiums to "current gen" or are they just really abandoning it?
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        • baseballmad
          Rookie
          • Mar 2012
          • 58

          #19
          Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

          Well that's solved a lot of indecision for most. Buy a PS5 or Xbox to 'Create a Stadium' . For all other baseball related franchise interest.... keep playing on a PS4..... Roll on '22

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          • ThrowBack
            Rookie
            • Feb 2011
            • 460

            #20
            Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

            So the game is basically a 1 to 1 port from PS4? I thought we would get a dramatic improvement in lighting as a bear minimum but it doesn't look much improved from last year. I came with very low expectations and still ended up disappointed.

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            • bayman
              Rookie
              • Feb 2003
              • 359

              #21
              Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

              Originally posted by Seancefc
              There’s nothing next gen about this so far. Stadium creator is a gimmick.
              And the franchise stream was all about them rebuilding the core instead of just adding more gimmicks and most people still complained. So thanks for proving that no one is ever happy.

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              • Dolenz
                MVP
                • May 2014
                • 2056

                #22
                Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

                Well, there is no reason for offline DD players to get excited about custom stadiums. I have always said that there was no point in offline DD players collecting stadiums because you get almost no chances to choose your stadium. I was hoping that might change with custom stadiums.

                Well now they confirmed that custom stadiums are not available in Conquest, Moments, and Showdown. The main three modes offline DD players use.

                For those more Franchise oriented, they are also not available in custom leagues or March To October.
                Last edited by Dolenz; 04-08-2021, 05:50 PM.

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                • Nomah5
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 845

                  #23
                  Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

                  Yup it seems the real next gen stuff will be in 22. All the more reason now to use it on Xbox as opposed to buying it on Ps5.

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                  • lemarflacco
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2018
                    • 1001

                    #24
                    Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

                    Originally posted by Playboy™
                    So this was a tutorial of how to use Stadium Creator, they didn’t even mention anything about face scans, better uniforms or how next Gen compared to last Gen.
                    Didn't they mention they were gonna go over it at the beginning? Then they covered DD lol which was reserved for a stream next week?

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                    • breakfastcat
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1021

                      #25
                      Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

                      Originally posted by Seancefc
                      There’s nothing next gen about this so far. Stadium creator is a gimmick.
                      A gimmick that took 10 years to create, has been widely requested for even longer, and appears to be executed nearly flawlessly? Just because you aren't interested in something doesn't make it a gimmick. It's literally the reason I bought a PS5.

                      I do find it odd that they didn't even mention graphics on a premiere about Next-Gen. I guess it just confirms my suspicion that the next gen version looks identical to the current gen version. Not sure what everyone who says that it looks so much better is seeing.

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                      • ChaseB
                        #BringBackFaceuary
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 9844

                        #26
                        Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

                        Originally posted by Seancefc
                        There’s nothing next gen about this so far. Stadium creator is a gimmick.
                        Just a brutal take.

                        Like, yes you have been able to do stuff like this in Tycoon games etc. but this is so much further along than anything else we've ever had in a console sports game for this element. Calling it a "gimmick" is silly -- people ask for this feature in every sports game, and especially for a baseball game.

                        Peeps can be big mad about not getting more info about graphics and not simultaneously lash out and rip everything else because they're unhappy their thing was not talked about. It's okay to have some nuance.
                        Last edited by ChaseB; 04-08-2021, 06:05 PM.
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                        • canes21
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                          • Sep 2008
                          • 22931

                          #27
                          Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

                          Originally posted by bayman
                          And the franchise stream was all about them rebuilding the core instead of just adding more gimmicks and most people still complained. So thanks for proving that no one is ever happy.
                          The franchise stream was thrm saying they tuned two things and redid the graphical interface for the mode. What exactly is there to be excited about for this year? They can say it is for the future and that is fine, but that doesn't change that nothing was added to this year's game. If it pays off and we see the mode improve in the future, that's awesome, but that doesn't change that nothing was really added for this year.

                          The game and SCEA are allowed to be criticized. If you want happiness, go to the gameplay stream. The game plays amazingly on the field and looks to be even better this year. Franchise mode, though, is clearly lagging behind by quite a bit and I don't think you could find one honest person who would disagree.

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                          • canes21
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                            • Sep 2008
                            • 22931

                            #28
                            Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

                            Originally posted by ChaseB
                            Just a brutal take.

                            Like, yes you have been able to do stuff like this in Tycoon games etc. but this is so much further along than anything else we've ever had in a console sports game for this element.
                            I wouldn't say further along than anything we've ever had. It looks like a clone of what Big Ant has in their games. That's a compliment, don't take it the wrong way, the stadium creators in their games are awesome and work well and this creator in The Show looks like it is HEAVILY influenced by their games.

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                            • ChaseB
                              #BringBackFaceuary
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 9844

                              #29
                              Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

                              Originally posted by canes21
                              I wouldn't say further along than anything we've ever had. It looks like a clone of what Big Ant has in their games. That's a compliment, don't take it the wrong way, the stadium creators in their games are awesome and work well and this creator in The Show looks like it is HEAVILY influenced by their games.

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                              • baseballguy99
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2019
                                • 936

                                #30
                                Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

                                the stadium creator is SUPER impressive, it really is. With that said there is nothing about the game on next gen that feels visually different from 20 on ps4. Lighting, grass, players, everything looks almost identical.

                                judging by the stream it also suffers from some framerate slow down during some closeups when in 4k. 20 on the PS5 is buttery smooth for gameplay and closeups when in "balanced mode", its really incredible, but when u play 4k u still see some slow down and this looks to be much the same

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