MLB The Show 21 Franchise Discussion Thread

[overheadthree]

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Finishing up the month of June the Devils are sitting at .500 with a 41-41 record. 8.5 back of the Astros and 2.5 GB in the Wild Card. the moves the devils made with Bote and Cave have worked thus far might need to make some more and possibly push for the playoffs.

Draft 2021: The Devils first two picks they hit on with Rich Mccabe SP a 70 overall with A potential and Fred Webster SP 66 Overall with B potential. They also drafted Alex Manuel RP in the later rounds 66 Overall with a high B potential

Hitting Highlights for June: Darnell Sweeney continues his hot season being in the top 5 in hits and leading the league with 5 Triples. Jedd Gyorko is top 5 in batting average posting a .321 average. Edwin is cooled off recently but still hitting for power and 2nd in HR with 21. Our recently acquired Cave has hit 8 HR since joining the club at the end of May. Dalton Pompey has locked down the RF job for now but will likely look to upgrade.

Pitching Highlights for June: The Rotation has been pretty much average for the whole season so far. Everyone has an ERA over 4 but all have been solid for the most part. definitely will be looking to upgrade with an arm in the rotation and possibly the pen. In the Pen De La Rosa has cooled off while Jeffress continues being dominant along with Strop in the closer role.

Notes: At the beginning of the month Tim Wendell went down with a Torn MCL we also optioned Ryan Dull to Triple A and Recalled Gerson Bautista.

With the month of May finished the Devils sit at 26-30 6.5 GB from the Astros and 5 GB in the Wild Card. Some surprising players have been off to hot starts while some are off to cold as well. Hope to improve even more and continue to sell of older pieces to improve the team.

At the beginning of the month the Devils acquired David Bote from the Cubs for David Robertson. Bote was on the bench and has a favorable contract for the Devils, instantly became the starting 3B for the team.

Towards the end of the month the Twins offered Jake Cave for Oliver Perez which the Devils jumped on needing another outfielder. Cave had been having a good season thus far and took over CF.

Hitting highlights for May: 1-4 in the order have been carrying the team. Darnell Sweeney is hitting at .282, Greg Garcia is at .301 and took over the starting job at 2B, Jedd Gyorko is hitting at .303, and Edwin is leading the league in HR at 16. Yasiel Puig has been a complete disappointment hitting .157 and moved to the bench also Hyun Soo kim was moved to the bench and Logan Morrison is the full time Left Fielder.

Pitching highlights from May: Cole Hamels has been solid still keeping his ERA under 4 while Rick Porcello rebounded as has an ERA at 3.60. Samardzija and King Felix have both struggled and might look to deal them or bring someone up. In the pen Ruby has ben a revelation pitching 9 innings so far in relief and dominated with a 2.00 ERA and 11 K's. Pedro Strop is still dominating but hasn't had too many save opportunities. Jeremy Jeffress is my best Reliever with a 2.17 ERA in 29 Innings Pitched. Ryan Dull has been roughed up but has been better lately.

Notes: The Devils recalled Ryan Dull, Ryon Healy, and Billy Burns. With the Cave trade the Devils optioned Burns back to the minors and brought up Ruby De La Rosa.

Other players optioned: Adam Brett Walker II, Tim Wendell, Jesmuel Valentin, and Domingo Santana

[knucklecutter]

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So I just had something weird happen that I guess is a bug, but I've never seen it and I'm wondering if anyone else has either. I'm the Braves and for my pitchers I used my starter and 4 reliefs in an extra inning game. Acuna Jr. was sitting out for the day to rest, and I brought him in in the top of 10th to pinch hit. That's it, just to pinch hit... So my closer ends up giving up a hit in the bottom of the 10th and we lose. What's really crazy is that on the end results screen Acuna Jr. is credited with the loss. Thinking it's just a visual glitch I checked all my pitchers afterwards and none of them were credited with the games loss. I'm going to report it, but has anyone ever seen something similar?

[ktd1976]

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So I just had something weird happen that I guess is a bug, but I've never seen it and I'm wondering if anyone else has either. I'm the Braves and for my pitchers I used my starter and 4 reliefs in an extra inning game. Acuna Jr. was sitting out for the day to rest, and I brought him in in the top of 10th to pinch hit. That's it, just to pinch hit... So my closer ends up giving up a hit in the bottom of the 10th and we lose. What's really crazy is that on the end results screen Acuna Jr. is credited with the loss. Thinking it's just a visual glitch I checked all my pitchers afterwards and none of them were credited with the games loss. I'm going to report it, but has anyone ever seen something similar?

It's a screw up the game makes in the extra innings, because of the runner on 2nd to start extra innings.

What happened is this. You brought in Acuna Jr. to pinch hit for the pitcher in the top of the 10th. When you went to the bottom of the 10th, the opponent started with a runner on 2nd. The game thinks this happened before you replaced Acuna Jr with a pitcher.

For some strange reason, the game "thinks" that the runner on 2nd came in before the pitching change, and is credited to Acuna Jr, because he was in the pitchers spot in the lineup when the runner was on 2nd. Thus, the game mistakenly is giving the loss to Acuna Jr, because the game "thinks" Acuna Jr is responsible for the runner.

IDK if it is a glitch, or bad coding, and not sure if it can be fixed via patch, either, but it is worth submitting a bug report.

[Thefallen365]

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I decided to play a "manager only" campaign with the Angels this time around, meaning I set lineups & rotations and let the virtual GM do his own thing. He signed a fictional 28 year old Dominican catcher in April, then things were pretty quiet. Well, not 100% quiet, Justin Upton is gonna be out til at least August and Mike Trout is playing catch up after being out for all of May and a bit of June. Jared Walsh has been hitting dingers left and right and Kurt Suzuki and Dexter Fowler are overperforming. As far as pitching goes, Aaron Slegers has worked his way into the rotation and kept a sub-2.50 ERA and Steve Cishek is the current closer.

Now July happens.

July 3rd, Robo GM decides to send Jared Walsh up the freeway to LA (after he walked it off for us in extras the day before) for Brusadar Graterol, the 22 year old bullpen prospect, making our bullpen hopefully a bit more formidable and making the Dodgers lineup even more terrifying than it already was.

Robo GM didn't wait long to fill the hole in our lineup though, as on July 4th he decided to ship Griffin Canning to the Baltimore Orioles in opposite dugout, who sent back 26 year old outfielder Anthony Santander. Meanwhile, I've converted that catcher I mentioned earlier into a first baseman because he's 6'3" and why not.

He wasn't done. Just a week later, Robo GM sends Dylan Bundy (Statistically the worst starter in our rotation so far) and Mike Mayers (who was our closer for a couple months, but moved back to the setup role recently) to the Yankees for another 26 year old outfielder, Clint Frazier.

So now here we are, sitting a few games under .500, 3rd in the division, coming up to the all star break, with an absolute surplus of outfielders, three catchers, and Albert Pujols, who I converted a catcher to play his position so I wouldn't have to put him in the lineup.

Hope everyone else is having fun!

[countryboy]

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So I just had something weird happen that I guess is a bug, but I've never seen it and I'm wondering if anyone else has either. I'm the Braves and for my pitchers I used my starter and 4 reliefs in an extra inning game. Acuna Jr. was sitting out for the day to rest, and I brought him in in the top of 10th to pinch hit. That's it, just to pinch hit... So my closer ends up giving up a hit in the bottom of the 10th and we lose. What's really crazy is that on the end results screen Acuna Jr. is credited with the loss. Thinking it's just a visual glitch I checked all my pitchers afterwards and none of them were credited with the games loss. I'm going to report it, but has anyone ever seen something similar?

To piggyback on what ktd said, unless I'm mistaken, and I could be 100%, I don't think if the designated runner is the only run to score that results in the loss for a team in extra innings, that a pitcher is actually given a loss due to the circumstances.

For whatever reason I keep thinking I've heard that on radio, tv, and read it a few times but for the life of me cannot find it in the MLB rules.

I think this is why when I'm quick managing my minor league games, if they go extras and the DR is the only run to score that creates the loss, the losing pitcher at the end of the game will be blank.

[Jeffrey Smith]

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So I just had something weird happen that I guess is a bug, but I've never seen it and I'm wondering if anyone else has either. I'm the Braves and for my pitchers I used my starter and 4 reliefs in an extra inning game. Acuna Jr. was sitting out for the day to rest, and I brought him in in the top of 10th to pinch hit. That's it, just to pinch hit... So my closer ends up giving up a hit in the bottom of the 10th and we lose. What's really crazy is that on the end results screen Acuna Jr. is credited with the loss. Thinking it's just a visual glitch I checked all my pitchers afterwards and none of them were credited with the games loss. I'm going to report it, but has anyone ever seen something similar?

Had the same issue as well. Have a win for Panik and a loss for Biggio. Never made a bug report though.


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[ktd1976]

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To piggyback on what ktd said, unless I'm mistaken, and I could be 100%, I don't think if the designated runner is the only run to score that results in the loss for a team in extra innings, that a pitcher is actually given a loss due to the circumstances.

For whatever reason I keep thinking I've heard that on radio, tv, and read it a few times but for the life of me cannot find it in the MLB rules.

I think this is why when I'm quick managing my minor league games, if they go extras and the DR is the only run to score that creates the loss, the losing pitcher at the end of the game will be blank.

The way I understand the rule is that the runner starting on second will be deemed to have reached second because of an error (but no error is charged to the team) and thus will be an unearned run charged to the pitcher pithing the inning.

This is directly from the MLB rules, so the above is confirmed.

I still believe that the pitcher in the game at the time of the runner being placed on second would still be charged with a "loss" as the unearned run would be charged to him.

Where the issue is happening, is when the previous pitcher is pinch hit for in the 9th, resulting in technically no pitcher in the game when the runner is put on second. In that instance, pitcher should be put in the game, and THEN the runner put on second base.

The Show is not correctly doing this.

[countryboy]

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The way I understand the rule is that the runner starting on second will be deemed to have reached second because of an error (but no error is charged to the team) and thus will be an unearned run charged to the pitcher pithing the inning.

This is directly from the MLB rules, so the above is confirmed.

I still believe that the pitcher in the game at the time of the runner being placed on second would still be charged with a "loss" as the unearned run would be charged to him.

Where the issue is happening, is when the previous pitcher is pinch hit for in the 9th, resulting in technically no pitcher in the game when the runner is put on second. In that instance, pitcher should be put in the game, and THEN the runner put on second base.

The Show is not correctly doing this.

I understand the glitch/bug that the Show is doing in regards to a position player being given a loss, and the rule of the unearned run

I was just saying that I keep remembering that I've heard/read somewhere that if the DR in extra innings is the only run to cross the plate that results in a team's loss, the pitcher that started the extra inning would not be charged a loss due to runner being "placed" on the bases without any action happening prior.

[LowerWolf]

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It's an unearned run, but the pitcher still takes the L.

Braves lost the season opener to the Phillies, 3-2, in real life. Harper was the designated runner on second and scored on a single. Nate Jones was charged with the loss.

Edit: Here's the link for the boxscore from that game.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/boxscore/_/gameId/401227053

[ktd1976]

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I understand the glitch/bug that the Show is doing in regards to a position player being given a loss, and the rule of the unearned run

I was just saying that I keep remembering that I've heard/read somewhere that if the DR in extra innings is the only run to cross the plate that results in a team's loss, the pitcher that started the extra inning would not be charged a loss due to runner being "placed" on the bases without any action happening prior.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/b...02105310.shtml

Box score from the Tigers vs Milwaukee game over the weekend, which the Brewers won 3-2 in 10 innings.

Jose Cisnero of the Tigers pitched 1/3 an inning, and allowed the "placed" runner to score. He was charged with a loss.

So, it appears that the pitcher DOES take a loss.

[countryboy]

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Thanks for sharing the boxscores

[UTAllTheWay]

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So something happened in my Astros rebuild franchise that kind of made me angry and I’m not going to lie, it kind of makes me want to restart using 30 team control.

During the off-season Carlos Correa was on the free agent list for a long time. Well eventually the Mets picked him up. So now they have Lindor and Correa, which I’m not really opposed to. The problem I have is they are just using Correa in the lineup. Lindor is sitting on the bench for no reason.

That drives me nuts.

EDIT: Well, I didn’t realize I could go edit players not on my team. So I’m going to edit one of them and make them the third baseman.

[LowerWolf]

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Phillies took two out of three from us (both wins in extra innings) to drop us back into a first-place tie with the Mets in the NL East. We get an off day before hosting Toronto.

After the game, we purchased the contract of Tyler Flowers from Gwinnett and recalled him. Alex Jackson has been optioned to Gwinnett. Jackson had been playing better, but he still is hitting just .156 and we want him to get regular at-bats.

We outrighted Jason Kipnis to make room on the 40-man roster. Really won't mind if somebody claims him and his $4M salary.

[HozAndMoose]

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Start of Season - 2022

We didn't make a ton of moves this off-season though with some of the contracts players got we should have been more active. We brought back Danny Duffy on a 3-year deal. It's worth 27.9 million in the first 2 years with a mutual option worth 11.1 million for the 3rd. Michael Taylor was also a free agent. He also returns on a 3-year deal worth 13.5 million the first 2 years and a 5.4 million dollar club option on the 3rd. We then decided to move on from our 1st and 3rd base coaches. Replacing them with Jason Benton and John Dillon. Juan Beye also joins the organization as our new farm director. In free agency, we spent a whopping 6.45 million. We brought in Kyle Higashioka, Cole Tucker, and Gregory Soto. Higashioka received a 1-year deal worth 1.8 million. Tucker got 1 year 650k and Gregory Soto got a 2-year deal worth 4 million. Here are some signing from around the league. Some of them very questionable to say the least.

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Heading into Spring Training we had a pretty good idea what the final roster would look like. Though there were a couple of guys that ended up losing a spot. 4/5 in the rotation was set with Jonathan Bowlan having the edge for the final spot which he ended up winning. Though Chance Adams beat out Jackson Jowar and Asa Lacy for the LR/6th starter role. He wont start the season on the roster since we wont need a 5th starter for a bit. Out in the bullpen we had the biggest shake up. I assumed Gregory Soto and Holden Capps would be locks to make the team. But Soto got hurt for a bit and had a 7 ERA in 7 IP while Holden Capps also had a 7 ERA in 9 IP. Both will start the year in AAA but I don't see them being down for long. Taking their spots were Richard Lovelady and Rolando Gunn. Jake Brentz was also projected to make the team but was far from guaranteed and ended up losing the spot to Grant Gavin. Zimmer had the best spring among our pitchers putting up a 2.25 ERA in 16 IP.

On the offensive side, things went pretty much as expected. The only spots up for grabs were backup infield, outfield, and catcher. Erick Mejia, Nicky Lopez, and Kyle Higashioka had the edge in those battles. Higashioka ended up beating out Cam Gallagher for the catcher spot. But both were very underwhelming putting up a sub .600 OPS in 59 AB. Cole Tucker ended up beating out Erick Mejia for the backup infield spot along with Nicky Lopez (Tucker will actually start against RHP to begin the season) while Kyle Isbel and Edward Olivares both making the team to start the season. They will battle for the 4th outfield spot until we need to call up Chance Adams. Whit Merrifield was on fire after a bit of a down season in 21. He had an OPS of 1.100 in 61 AB hitting 4 HR. Dozier was close putting up a 1.094 OPS with 7 HR in 53 AB. And Ryan McBroom leads the team in batting AVG at .340 in 53 AB.

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We were able to make it out without any injuries. A few teams weren't so lucky.

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Roster and Lineups

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The Royals place 3 players in the top 50 prospects list. Bobby Witt Jr leads the way sitting at #2. 18 year old OF Erick Pena sits at #34 while our 1st pick in last years draft comes in at #49. The Tampa Bay Rays lead the league with 8 total prospects on the list.
Top Prospects

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We open up the season on the road in Cincinnatti before heading north to Cleveland. Our home opener is April 14th against Oakland. 15 of our 21 games in April are against teams that were sub .500 last season. This is the year I would have expected to be around .500. But after almost doing it last year I think id be a little disappointed to do it again. It might be a bit much to ask the pitching to be as good as it was. But the offense can definitely improve as long as the main guys stay healthy. Im guessing we go close to .500 again but really hope its more.

[countryboy]

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Cardinals take series from Giants as bats come out hot

The Cardinals got the second half of the season off on the right foot by taking 2 of 3 from the Giants over the weekend in St.Louis.

The Cardinals won Friday and Saturday, but couldn't get the sweep on Sunday as while they hit the ball hard, it was one of those days where they hit it right at'em.

The Cardinals scored 11 runs on Friday, and followed that up with 12 runs on Saturday. They managed 4 runs on Sunday, but the pitching wasn't strong in the bullpen and the Cardinals fell 6-4 after Ryan Helsley gave up a 3 run bomb in the 8th.

The Cardinals still trail the Brewers by 6 games and the Braves by 1 1/2 games in wildcard.