MLB The Show 25 - Trade Discussion Thread

[BlueJays09]

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Starting a franchise as the Reds and we’ve been lacking in the OF for years. Who is a realistic Of that could be moved this year? I know we had discussions about Luis Robert but the price was way too steep.

I second this one. Was looking at Robert for the Blue Jays. What would his cost likely look like?


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[kinsmen7]

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I second this one. Was looking at Robert for the Blue Jays. What would his cost likely look like?


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Any idea what his durability is in game? If it's decent, I'd overpay with something like Roden+Kasevich+Maroudis. The issue I have with Kasevich though (He's the most valuable of the 3), is that he has zero power potential.

The White Sox have been looking more towards guys that are on the cusp of being in the MLB, so also something like Roden+Barger (Or Loperfido, who probably projects better for them)+Maroudis (Or Kendrys Rojas, who is probably the safer arm for them?). Gives them 2 guys who can plug into their lineup, and a reasonably decent pitching prospect.

My main thought here though, is that the White Sox likely hold onto him for a couple of months to show he's healthy, and if he plays like he can, his value *should* sky rocket to the point where you're giving up prospects from the top of the farm system (ie. Ricky or Trey, +++), which would be a rough move for the Jays.

[franch1se]

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Yaaaaaa, something tells me that while the trade logic has been featured as an "improved" model (for the umpteenth straight year), it's still going to have some warts.

Not sure if you play on 30 team control or not, but I'd think a Cease trade before the season would mirror the Corbin Burnes trade from last year...So, couple of higher-end/MLB ready prospects (Ortiz/DL Hall-7th and 8th in a loaded O's system at the end of 2023), and a lotto ticket (Was a competitive balance pick).

Just as an example...

SDP: Cease
Cubbies: Caissie+Triantos+Wicks (?)

Kind of goes on the assumption that the Cubs will do their best to extend Kyle Tucker, which would keep their outfield full long term with PCA/Tucker/Happ/Suzuki.

While the Cubs giving up their 3rd and 5th best prospects would hurt, the Cubs *SHOULD* be desperate to upgrade their team, considering what they spent to get Tucker.

Just got offered Jackson Holliday and someone else for Cease too lol. Of course I'm not taking these as i want realism.


Edit - Maybe being "offered" is the wrong word, but using the trade finder option this is one i can accept. Same with the Red Sox trade.

[smcamp3]

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I second this one. Was looking at Robert for the Blue Jays. What would his cost likely look like?


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I know they wanted Edwin Arroyo and 2 of the following; Chase Burns, Rhett Lowder and Chase Petty (or that’s what the rumors were)

[Heisman]

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Really want to make a trade for Trout at the deadline with my Dodgers, but no idea how the budgets would work out. I’m willing to give up a lot for realism. Any ideas fellas?

[franch1se]

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Really want to make a trade for Trout at the deadline with my Dodgers, but no idea how the budgets would work out. I’m willing to give up a lot for realism. Any ideas fellas?

Dodgers dont' have a budget lol

[kinsmen7]

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Just got offered Jackson Holliday and someone else for Cease too lol. Of course I'm not taking these as i want realism.


Edit - Maybe being "offered" is the wrong word, but using the trade finder option this is one i can accept. Same with the Red Sox trade.

I'm not going to be surprised if we see a ton of Jackson Holliday offers again this year on the trade finder, especially if what they showed us in the free agency features video about making moves from positional strength is the case (ie. Dodgers signed Tucker, then flipped Teoscar). I'm assuming Holliday is rated lower than Ramon Urias and Westburg to start the game, so the CPU would be fine moving him.

Something like Cease for Kjerstad/Beavers/Young seems reasonable though...I don't think they'd go as far as Mayo, or a deal would have already been done. Kjerstad is a hard guy to give up, but given that they've got Cowser, Mullins, and O'Neill, with potentially Bradfield up to take over for Mullins next year, it wouldn't be a bad move to make.

If I was an O's fan though, I'd be pretty sour about ownership not inking one of the big arms this summer though.

[Fikshun]

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Just got offered Jackson Holliday and someone else for Cease too lol. Of course I'm not taking these as i want realism.


Edit - Maybe being "offered" is the wrong word, but using the trade finder option this is one i can accept. Same with the Red Sox trade.

Until you realize that the CPU will pull off an even more ridiculous trade with itself later.

Holliday and a another for Anthony Rondon. Deal of the century. Haha

[smcamp3]

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Playing as the Reds and looking to upgrade the OF. I took a peak at the trading block and the A’s put Lawrence Butler on there. Two questions; how unrealistic would it be for them to move him and what combo of players would it take?

Ezequial Duran (corner OF eligibility) is also on there and intriguing

[toodles2you90]

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How unrealistic are these two?

Sonny Gray for Jackson Holliday and Cade Povich
Nolan Arenado for Jurrangelo Cijntje

Really want to make both of those (I'm the Cards) but the realism side of me can't get myself to do it.

[Cyrus09]

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Looking at the Mariners roster right now looking for potential spots to improve. Who out of the rotation would be the most realistic trade candidate? Since their farm is not exactly stacked this looks like the best resource to get some more firepower in.

And which teams would make sense as a dancing partner for a deal like that? I struggle to see the best piece coming back in a deal for a potential ace like that, that helps a team short term.

[kinsmen7]

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How unrealistic are these two?

Sonny Gray for Jackson Holliday and Cade Povich
Nolan Arenado for Jurrangelo Cijntje

Really want to make both of those (I'm the Cards) but the realism side of me can't get myself to do it.

Unfortunately for you and your Cards, they are extremely unrealistic.

Without getting into surplus values, the easiest way for you to look at this is to say "Would I give up a 21 year old who was the top prospect in baseball last year, for a 35 year old starter coming off of a 1.8 WAR season, who is owed around $85 ish mil over the next 3 years?", and "Would I trade last years 15th overall draft pick for a 34 year old 3B who is owed $75ish mil over the next 3 years, who has had declining numbers in each of the past 2 seasons?"

As the Cards, your main benefit to moving Gray/Arenado needs to be the fact that you'll save $150 or so million.

It's not as if there was a lineup of teams chomping at the bit to get Arenado this past offseason when he was available, right?

Without getting into names and prospects, if it was me trying to move those two, and I was trying for realism with these two guys, I'd be looking for low overall/decent potential (low B) YOUNG prospects, and I'd carry on knowing that I had freed up a bunch of future money.

[jcar0725]

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How unrealistic are these two?

Sonny Gray for Jackson Holliday and Cade Povich
Nolan Arenado for Jurrangelo Cijntje

Really want to make both of those (I'm the Cards) but the realism side of me can't get myself to do it.

Yeah there is no chance that Baltimore would take on that amount of salary, for two young affordable future stars.

[Fikshun]

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Looking at the Mariners roster right now looking for potential spots to improve. Who out of the rotation would be the most realistic trade candidate? Since their farm is not exactly stacked this looks like the best resource to get some more firepower in.

And which teams would make sense as a dancing partner for a deal like that? I struggle to see the best piece coming back in a deal for a potential ace like that, that helps a team short term.

I'm not necessarily one to lecture anyone on realism as this is just a game and you should play it how you want.
I do like to talk about which destinations and scenarios would make sense.

I think Castillo would be a guy to trade at the deadline if he's having a solid year and a higher budget team making a strong playoff push with a need for pitching(ex- Yankees). Given their situation with Cole, I could see that happen anyway.

I don't see Gilbert or Kirby going anywhere, but if they did it would command a decent haul.

[kinsmen7]

Re: MLB The Show 25 - Trade Discussion Thread

Looking at the Mariners roster right now looking for potential spots to improve. Who out of the rotation would be the most realistic trade candidate? Since their farm is not exactly stacked this looks like the best resource to get some more firepower in.

And which teams would make sense as a dancing partner for a deal like that? I struggle to see the best piece coming back in a deal for a potential ace like that, that helps a team short term.

The Mariners have 7 players on MLB's top 100 prospects list, and have the 5th best farm system (behind Detroit, Tampa, Boston, and the Dodgers).

To answer your question though, probably Luis Castillo? Saves you a boatload of money, that can be spent elsewhere, but doesn't bring back a huge return based on that money...

Maybe I'm in the minority, because a baseball people were talking all winter about trading from the rotation, but I'd caution against it. Easily one of the best rotations in baseball, but there is absolutely ZERO depth there. Emerson Hancock is the next guy up, and he's fringy at best, then after him, there's a huge, gaping black hole. For context, and they're a big outlier, the Dodgers used 18 (!!!) different starters last year. If the Mariners had to go past Hancock, they'd be absolutely screwed.

The big thing with the real-life M's is that they're apparently maxed out financially...in game, I'm sure you've got some wiggle room with the budget.

Might be overthinking this, but what about something like Haniger (for salary purposes)+Harry Ford (offsets Haniger's negative value)+Michael Arroyo for Luis Robert Jr.?

You'd be giving up two top 100 prospects (64 and 97), but if Robert is healthy, he'd be a great add.