MLB The Show 25 - Trade Discussion Thread

[toodles2you90]

Re: MLB The Show 25 - Trade Discussion Thread

Unfortunately for you and your Cards, they are extremely unrealistic.

Without getting into surplus values, the easiest way for you to look at this is to say "Would I give up a 21 year old who was the top prospect in baseball last year, for a 35 year old starter coming off of a 1.8 WAR season, who is owed around $85 ish mil over the next 3 years?", and "Would I trade last years 15th overall draft pick for a 34 year old 3B who is owed $75ish mil over the next 3 years, who has had declining numbers in each of the past 2 seasons?"

As the Cards, your main benefit to moving Gray/Arenado needs to be the fact that you'll save $150 or so million.

It's not as if there was a lineup of teams chomping at the bit to get Arenado this past offseason when he was available, right?

Without getting into names and prospects, if it was me trying to move those two, and I was trying for realism with these two guys, I'd be looking for low overall/decent potential (low B) YOUNG prospects, and I'd carry on knowing that I had freed up a bunch of future money.

Oh yea I know they are bad. An Arenado trade on here is going to be unrealistic regardless though because the teams he would reportedly waive his NTC for or that have been rumored to have interest don't have the money to take him on the game. Wish the game would let you give cash or retain money because that is probably the only way Arenado gets moved barring a resurgence this season anyway.

[kinsmen7]

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Oh yea I know they are bad. An Arenado trade on here is going to be unrealistic regardless though because the teams he would reportedly waive his NTC for or that have been rumored to have interest don't have the money to take him on the game. Wish the game would let you give cash or retain money because that is probably the only way Arenado gets moved barring a resurgence this season anyway.

For sure...

I absolutely think Seattle would be a solid landing spot for Arenado (There's no worries about no trade clauses in the Show!), and if money isn't your main concern here, you could always take Haniger back to offset the negative value.

Still not getting much prospect-wise, but I'd feel more comfortable taking back a couple of low level prospects that way. Main thing with him is how that original Rockies trade looked-he was at the height of his career at that point, and Colorado basically took a handful of lotto tickets hoping one or two might hit (Spoiler alert: They didn't...).

[CKW11]

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So I’m about a month from the all star break in my dbacks franchise and looking to make a big splash for my push.

The guy I’m targeting is Vladito. 70ish games in he’s sporting a .277/.371/.442 slash and worth 1.6 WAR.

I was thinking something along the lines of Pavin Smith (.264/.354/.482 0.8 WAR) + Druw Jones + idk maybe JD Dix?

My only issue is with Vlads numbers putting him closer to a 2.5-3 win player like in ‘22/‘23 as opposed to the 5 win player in ‘24 and for only half a year of his services is Jones too much for this package or could I knock It down to say a slade Caldwell/yu-min Lin/Tommy Troy instead?

[kinsmen7]

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So I’m about a month from the all star break in my dbacks franchise and looking to make a big splash for my push.

The guy I’m targeting is Vladito. 70ish games in he’s sporting a .277/.371/.442 slash and worth 1.6 WAR.

I was thinking something along the lines of Pavin Smith (.264/.354/.482 0.8 WAR) + Druw Jones + idk maybe JD Dix?

My only issue is with Vlads numbers putting him closer to a 2.5-3 win player like in ‘22/‘23 as opposed to the 5 win player in ‘24 and for only half a year of his services is Jones too much for this package or could I knock It down to say a slade Caldwell/yu-min Lin/Tommy Troy instead?

A couple of questions:
-What's the Jays record at the moment in the game?
-If you were trading your franchise player away, would you be happy getting a 29 year old 1B/OF who's combined career WAR is lower than Vladdy's worst season, and the 7th+12th ranked prospects from the MLB's 22nd best farm system?

Don't get me wrong, I think Druw Jones will likely take a big step this year, but if the Jays were to move him, you'd be bidding against a lot of teams.

Edit: I'm also biased, so I'd like to hear someone else's thoughts on it.

[Bard]

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So I’m about a month from the all star break in my dbacks franchise and looking to make a big splash for my push.

The guy I’m targeting is Vladito. 70ish games in he’s sporting a .277/.371/.442 slash and worth 1.6 WAR.

I was thinking something along the lines of Pavin Smith (.264/.354/.482 0.8 WAR) + Druw Jones + idk maybe JD Dix?

My only issue is with Vlads numbers putting him closer to a 2.5-3 win player like in ‘22/‘23 as opposed to the 5 win player in ‘24 and for only half a year of his services is Jones too much for this package or could I knock It down to say a slade Caldwell/yu-min Lin/Tommy Troy instead?

Guerrero Jr near the deadline with those numbers?


A top 100 prospect, team top 10, team top 20 I would venture (I'm on vacation in Italy, so not doing a total deep dive with value, lol... But everyone is sleeping and I'm bored &#128514


Druw Jones
Tommy Troy
Daniel Eagan


I think that would be closer. But again, not actually doing a value calculation at the moment.

[CKW11]

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A couple of questions:
-What's the Jays record at the moment in the game?
-If you were trading your franchise player away, would you be happy getting a 29 year old 1B/OF who's combined career WAR is lower than Vladdy's worst season, and the 7th+12th ranked prospects from the MLB's 22nd best farm system?

Don't get me wrong, I think Druw Jones will likely take a big step this year, but if the Jays were to move him, you'd be bidding against a lot of teams.

Edit: I'm also biased, so I'd like to hear someone else's thoughts on it.

I’d like to start by saying I’m not a dbacks fan I’m a Braves fan so I have no bias in this lol

The jays are falling out of contention, 15 games under .500 at the moment (I know they wouldn’t move him if they were contending)

I think the important thing to remember here is in game they aren’t the 7th/12th prospects, in game Druw is the 2nd best and Caldwell is 3rd.

As far as franchise player, it’s a half season rental. I May or may not resign but he for sure isn’t gonna stick as a blue jay.

But my starting point i kinda used the Soto trade as a baseline. It isn’t a 1:1 comparison or anything bc Vlad isn’t Soto (especially not in this universe) and it’s for half a season vs Soto was for a full season. Soto+Grisham for King+thorpe+brito+vasquez+higashioka..Thorpe was the 99 overall prospect, and Vazquez was the yanks #13..and at the time king was a reliever/swing man for the yanks..just my thought process behind this lol

[DirtBallNation]

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In an Oakland Franchise I started, i'm past the all-star break and Third base seems to be a black hole for guys to play at when it comes to the offensive side of the ball. Urshela, Andujar, Schuemann as internal options were not getting it done. I even signed and tried Nick Senzel and he didn't have much success with us. They may have had a combined avg. less than .200. I wanted to make a splash, we are about 5 or 6 games below .500 and only a few games out of a Wild card spot. We needed some solidarity at that postion as well as another stick in the middle of the lineup. I looked around the league to see what teams were out of contention early on.. the usuals; White Sox, Nationals, Rockies, etc. This is what I came up with

Athletics Receive:
3B Ryan McMahon - I know they just extended him, but him past that age 30 mark, tells me by time they (may) get competitive, McMahon will be past his prime and at the end of his contract. It wasn't like he was lighting the world on fire (.240ish avg, .700ops) and the rockies were 20-sum games out of the wild card.

Rockies Recevie:
SP JT Ginn
SS Max Muncy
CF Henry Bolte

I thought a package of "higher" A's prospects was the best way to get this deal done. I feel like gives them youth and potential added to their roster. I know this isn't the "typical A's way of doing business" but i'm the GM, I'm calling the shots LOL

Let me know if I fleeced them or is this close enough to being fair. If anyone thinks I didn't give up enough, I will gladly go back and offer another prospect or two for their lowest rated player. (i've done this in the past to help offset large trades)

Side note:
same franchise, I turned the trading slider down 2 notches and theres still a fair amount of trades. I wouldn't say they're realistic but they weren't so far unrealistic that it made me rage quit the franchise.
-Brewers traded Garrett Mitchell and a young C potential starter for CJ Abrams from the Nationals. that made me scratch my head but I'm going to say Abrams had another late night at the Casino and the Nationals were done with him haha.
Along with a couple other trades, but that was the big one that stuck out to me!

[jcar0725]

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In an Oakland Franchise I started, i'm past the all-star break and Third base seems to be a black hole for guys to play at when it comes to the offensive side of the ball. Urshela, Andujar, Schuemann as internal options were not getting it done. I even signed and tried Nick Senzel and he didn't have much success with us. They may have had a combined avg. less than .200. I wanted to make a splash, we are about 5 or 6 games below .500 and only a few games out of a Wild card spot. We needed some solidarity at that postion as well as another stick in the middle of the lineup. I looked around the league to see what teams were out of contention early on.. the usuals; White Sox, Nationals, Rockies, etc. This is what I came up with

Athletics Receive:
3B Ryan McMahon - I know they just extended him, but him past that age 30 mark, tells me by time they (may) get competitive, McMahon will be past his prime and at the end of his contract. It wasn't like he was lighting the world on fire (.240ish avg, .700ops) and the rockies were 20-sum games out of the wild card.

Rockies Recevie:
SP JT Ginn
SS Max Muncy
CF Henry Bolte

I thought a package of "higher" A's prospects was the best way to get this deal done. I feel like gives them youth and potential added to their roster. I know this isn't the "typical A's way of doing business" but i'm the GM, I'm calling the shots LOL

Let me know if I fleeced them or is this close enough to being fair. If anyone thinks I didn't give up enough, I will gladly go back and offer another prospect or two for their lowest rated player. (i've done this in the past to help offset large trades)

Side note:
same franchise, I turned the trading slider down 2 notches and theres still a fair amount of trades. I wouldn't say they're realistic but they weren't so far unrealistic that it made me rage quit the franchise.
-Brewers traded Garrett Mitchell and a young C potential starter for CJ Abrams from the Nationals. that made me scratch my head but I'm going to say Abrams had another late night at the Casino and the Nationals were done with him haha.
Along with a couple other trades, but that was the big one that stuck out to me!

Rockies trading Ryan M isn't crazy, but do they have someone else to step in and play 3B that would make the trade make sense? Also, rockies really need pitching more than anything and they already have future star Tovar that is locked in at SS.

I would have nixed the Nationals trade using my 30 team control because 1) he's still cheap with high upside 2) they already have some good young outfielders, 3) who steps in and plays 3B for them now?

[Cyrus09]

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The Mariners have 7 players on MLB's top 100 prospects list, and have the 5th best farm system (behind Detroit, Tampa, Boston, and the Dodgers).

To answer your question though, probably Luis Castillo? Saves you a boatload of money, that can be spent elsewhere, but doesn't bring back a huge return based on that money...

Maybe I'm in the minority, because a baseball people were talking all winter about trading from the rotation, but I'd caution against it. Easily one of the best rotations in baseball, but there is absolutely ZERO depth there. Emerson Hancock is the next guy up, and he's fringy at best, then after him, there's a huge, gaping black hole. For context, and they're a big outlier, the Dodgers used 18 (!!!) different starters last year. If the Mariners had to go past Hancock, they'd be absolutely screwed.

The big thing with the real-life M's is that they're apparently maxed out financially...in game, I'm sure you've got some wiggle room with the budget.

Might be overthinking this, but what about something like Haniger (for salary purposes)+Harry Ford (offsets Haniger's negative value)+Michael Arroyo for Luis Robert Jr.?

You'd be giving up two top 100 prospects (64 and 97), but if Robert is healthy, he'd be a great add.

Thanks for the response!

Glad my assumption that the farm isn't worth that much is wrong. I just checked the recent top 100 lists and they didn't have any high end talent. But it looks like they have a lot of solid options, so that should help with deals. I just have to check again how good those guys are in-game.

Theoretically I would like Robert, but the outfield is kinda set with the 3 starters already. So I would have to look elsewhere for improvement, most likely at 2nd or 3rd base. Or simply a every day DH, since the guys I have there right now are not that useful besides putting some more pitches on the pitch count. Tellez is fine, but nothing that will help me longterm.

But as you said: The pitchers should not be an option for now, because 1 injury could be a big problem in the current setup. I would need to pick one of the guys on the FA market up then probably.

[DirtBallNation]

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Rockies trading Ryan M isn't crazy, but do they have someone else to step in and play 3B that would make the trade make sense? Also, rockies really need pitching more than anything and they already have future star Tovar that is locked in at SS.

I would have nixed the Nationals trade using my 30 team control because 1) he's still cheap with high upside 2) they already have some good young outfielders, 3) who steps in and plays 3B for them now?

First off, I applaud you for doing a 30 team control - I don't have the patience to do it. (I don't think lol) - and Yes that trade with Abrams doesn't make a ton of sense, because of young depth WASH has. But i'll keep this as one of the trades due to a odd storyline.

Secondly, I went back and looked at the Rox current lineup without McMahon - they do have Owen Miller slotted at third with Thairo Estrada slotted in at 2B. Miller is actually having a decent season, .270avg playing in majority of their games. My virtual creativity tells me the Rockies would move Muncy to 3B at some point to play alongside Tovar.

[jcar0725]

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First off, I applaud you for doing a 30 team control - I don't have the patience to do it. (I don't think lol) - and Yes that trade with Abrams doesn't make a ton of sense, because of young depth WASH has. But i'll keep this as one of the trades due to a odd storyline.

Secondly, I went back and looked at the Rox current lineup without McMahon - they do have Owen Miller slotted at third with Thairo Estrada slotted in at 2B. Miller is actually having a decent season, .270avg playing in majority of their games. My virtual creativity tells me the Rockies would move Muncy to 3B at some point to play alongside Tovar.

Okay cool sounds good.

Actually 30 team control isn't that much extra work once you set it up. But it sounds intimidating ......

[Ghost Of The Year]

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First off, I applaud you for doing a 30 team control - I don't have the patience to do it. (I don't think lol) - and Yes that trade with Abrams doesn't make a ton of sense, because of young depth WASH has. But i'll keep this as one of the trades due to a odd storyline.

Secondly, I went back and looked at the Rox current lineup without McMahon - they do have Owen Miller slotted at third with Thairo Estrada slotted in at 2B. Miller is actually having a decent season, .270avg playing in majority of their games. My virtual creativity tells me the Rockies would move Muncy to 3B at some point to play alongside Tovar.

Going sightly off-topic, I've been playing an experimental franchise with Colorado and I have to play Miller at second. He doesn't have the arm strength I need at third, not for long-term anyway. I can let him play there an inning here and there, but I changed his primary to second base. And I'm getting Estrada outfield playing time when Miller plays second. I'd love to have the A's Muncy, but McMahon is off-limits, I just can't bare to part with him, lol.

[DirtBallNation]

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Going sightly off-topic, I've been playing an experimental franchise with Colorado and I have to play Miller at second. He doesn't have the arm strength I need at third, not for long-term anyway. I can let him play there an inning here and there, but I changed his primary to second base. And I'm getting Estrada outfield playing time when Miller plays second. I'd love to have the A's Muncy, but McMahon is off-limits, I just can't bare to part with him, lol.

Even as a Braves fan, i'm a fan of McMahon as a baseball player. But I understand where you come from, but as a GM of the A's right now, Colorado's problems are not mine on who can play where lol. I feel like I gave them a good chunk of prospects for a 2026 all-star... yes, he will an all star.

Another note: I put Murakami in my roster, signed him to the A's after a month into the season - keeping him in A for the year and will release him. I didn't want him to regress during the 2025 season and have noone sign him in the offseason. Kinda excited to see what happens with him. (I feel wrong keeping him for nothing)

[kinsmen7]

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First off, I applaud you for doing a 30 team control - I don't have the patience to do it. (I don't think lol) - and Yes that trade with Abrams doesn't make a ton of sense, because of young depth WASH has. But i'll keep this as one of the trades due to a odd storyline.

Secondly, I went back and looked at the Rox current lineup without McMahon - they do have Owen Miller slotted at third with Thairo Estrada slotted in at 2B. Miller is actually having a decent season, .270avg playing in majority of their games. My virtual creativity tells me the Rockies would move Muncy to 3B at some point to play alongside Tovar.

I kind of like the trade for the Rockies a heck of a lot more than for the A's, if I'm being honest...

All 3 of the guys you're moving are on the cusp of the big leagues, have a ton of cheap control, and are a pretty hefty injection for the 18th ranked farm system in the league.

Colorado also gets out of all of that money in this situation. McMahon is good, but he has negative value because of that contract.

I'd even go so far as to say that you're giving up pretty similar value to what the A's received for Matt Chapman, who was, and still is significantly better than McMahon.

As to whether or not the Rockies should be more focused on adding pitching prospects in the deal, I'm kind of impartial on it...they haven't proven that they can develop pitching, so why not just go for broke by adding offensive prospects with upside. JT Ginn would immediately plug into their rotation or bullpen, throws a heavy sinker which is pretty much the only thing that can keep the ball in Coors, and they can just go from there.

Muncy can play 2nd, and probably has enough of an arm to move to 3rd if needed, and Bolte is the kind of athletic outfielder that should help the Rockies defensively. A Doyle/Beck/Jones/Bolte outfield in 2026 would be pretty solid.

I just don't see a world where Colorado comes anywhere close to getting an offer like this from anyone else. If anything, I'd add a reliever from Colorado to even out the deal.

Edit: I love seeing the different opinions on the value though!
Edit two: I saw you mention 30 team control earlier...it's incredibly easy to set up, and I leave all of the CPU stuff to auto so that I'm not making any decisions for anyone else. I basically just have it to reverse the egregiously bad trades that sometimes happen. If it's a minor trade though, I don't even bother to look.

[DirtBallNation]

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I kind of like the trade for the Rockies a heck of a lot more than for the A's, if I'm being honest...

All 3 of the guys you're moving are on the cusp of the big leagues, have a ton of cheap control, and are a pretty hefty injection for the 18th ranked farm system in the league.

Colorado also gets out of all of that money in this situation. McMahon is good, but he has negative value because of that contract.

I'd even go so far as to say that you're giving up pretty similar value to what the A's received for Matt Chapman, who was, and still is significantly better than McMahon.

As to whether or not the Rockies should be more focused on adding pitching prospects in the deal, I'm kind of impartial on it...they haven't proven that they can develop pitching, so why not just go for broke by adding offensive prospects with upside. JT Ginn would immediately plug into their rotation or bullpen, throws a heavy sinker which is pretty much the only thing that can keep the ball in Coors, and they can just go from there.

Muncy can play 2nd, and probably has enough of an arm to move to 3rd if needed, and Bolte is the kind of athletic outfielder that should help the Rockies defensively. A Doyle/Beck/Jones/Bolte outfield in 2026 would be pretty solid.

I just don't see a world where Colorado comes anywhere close to getting an offer like this from anyone else. If anything, I'd add a reliever from Colorado to even out the deal.

Edit: I love seeing the different opinions on the value though!
Edit two: I saw you mention 30 team control earlier...it's incredibly easy to set up, and I leave all of the CPU stuff to auto so that I'm not making any decisions for anyone else. I basically just have it to reverse the egregiously bad trades that sometimes happen. If it's a minor trade though, I don't even bother to look.

Even funnier, as we approach the trade deadline in this franchise… Rockies make ANOTHER trade… this one of higher significance…

Orioles Receive:
CF Brenton Doyle

Rockies Receive:
2B Jackson Holliday
OF Enrique Bradfield


Interesting trade - I know pretty unrealistic in terms of the stardom that Doyle has been taking on, but they get younger by a few years and Holliday comes back to the franchise that his dad came up with. So it’s another interesting trade that I kind of like seeing.