Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

[jim416]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Just played three games. Saw no "two out rallies" of any sort.

All played on All Star Default.

Game 1: Lost 2-1, with a walk off shot in the bottom of the 9th (my fault was a hanging curve over the heart of the plate, I knew I messed up the second I released the pitch)

Game 2: Won 3-1, was a gritty grind of a game. CPU got on base in the late innings, but I had to pitch smart and induce ground balls to get double plays to get out of them. Just like baseball.

Game 3: Won 7-3, Same as above. CPU got on base, and made the right pitches to get the outs. The three runs they scored was off an early game triple, then sac fly, a solo shot in the 6th, and another off a well executed inning where they got on, and moved runners over. Still had to pitch around smart. Just like real baseball. You cant let up, you have to pitch like it is a 1 run game throughout, just like in real baseball.

Gamespot had a great review describing the game to the T now (they gave it a 9):

The review sums it up.

But the throwing erros??? Thats what kills it for me, and t happens alot!

I wonder why I'm not seeing this? Throwing errors happen "a lot". I simply don't get it.

[jim416]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

This was a good post by Michaeldu in the impressions thread.

I think HOF is the best level to play on. I have beat The Pirates 5-2 and the Mariners 7-3, but I can't beat the Redsox. So there is my challenge. Playing average teams I can beat or at least hang tough with and playing one of the leagues elite teams, which to this point I can't. You really have to concentrate and have a strategy when you play the best teams.

Shocking that there's no mention of comeback code and late inning throwing errors.

[Ryan1021]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I hope I am not about ready to jinx myself, but I have not seen a lot of errors on my part. The ai on the other hand has been committing a ton of errors and making great throws to save themselves from more errors. The only real errors that I see is occasionally my guy will do that sidearm throw from short or third that will end up three rows back behind first.

[jim416]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I hope I am not about ready to jinx myself, but I have not seen a lot of errors on my part. The ai on the other hand has been committing a ton of errors and making great throws to save themselves from more errors. The only real errors that I see is occasionally my guy will do that sidearm throw from short or third that will end up three rows back behind first.

Okay, help me out (and others). What do you mean by a "ton of errors". The gives the impression to people reading that in every game you play there are lots of errors by the AI. I think I've seen one error in the last three games I've played.

[rudyjuly2]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I hope I am not about ready to jinx myself, but I have not seen a lot of errors on my part. The ai on the other hand has been committing a ton of errors and making great throws to save themselves from more errors. The only real errors that I see is occasionally my guy will do that sidearm throw from short or third that will end up three rows back behind first.

This depends on what your error sliders are at and I think may also be affected by difficulty. I'll say it one more time. I think the fielding error slider on All-Star is broken. When you max it out, the cpu will make a good amount of errors but the human is unaffected. Instead, balls just go through your fielders with no error. Either way, I don't see enough human fielding errors on All-Star (HOF might be fine). Its not even close to realistic numbers right now. I've played over 15 games with the slider between 8-10 and I might have committed one error. In 9 season games, I think I have committed 0 errors. Four of those were with the defensively challenged Reds. Jackdog has gotten 21 errors in 35 games on HOF and yet I don't see a single bobble on All-Star for myself (again, the cpu if fine).

I've PM'd Kolbe and Russell about this. Quite a few people are seeing this on All-Star. Its not just me and I don't think I'm crazy. Jim, why don't you play a few games on All-Star and crank up the fielding error slider to the max. I think you will see what I'm talking about.

[kingdevin]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Jim, Nemesis, what would be your advise to someone who watches CPU games (exhibition) who is witnessing comeback AI in that most games are decided by one run? I've seen this on Rookie-HOF,

[nemesis04]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Jim, Nemesis, what would be your advise to someone who watches CPU games (exhibition) who is witnessing comeback AI in that most games are decided by one run? I've seen this on Rookie-HOF,

The cpu is inflicting comebacks on itself?

[jim416]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Rudy,

I'd like Ryan to respond to what a "ton of errors" is. Reading his post I get the impression from him that the AI is making lots of errors every game. Reading another poster it appears he's saying the errors are scripted as he always gets screwed in the game.

Sliders are supposed to have a subtle effect. They were not meant to make errors go through the roof if all the way up, or none at all if all the way down. Just look at the pitch speed. There are guys posting that with it down it's no different than with it at default. That's wrong.

For me to get a feel I'd have to play on ALLSTAR more than just one game. I'll do it for you from now on out to see what happens though.

[Skyboxer]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Okay, help me out (and others). What do you mean by a "ton of errors". The gives the impression to people reading that in every game you play there are lots of errors by the AI. I think I've seen one error in the last three games I've played.

I'm 3-3 in my dynasty now. 2-1 vs Orioles and 1-2 vs Royals.
As far as errors:
Baltimore series had zero errors combined
Royals series game 1 Cano had 1 error, Game 2 Kyle Davies(SP) had 1 error and finally game 3 Cano had his second error of the year. That's it so far in 6 games. Combined 3 errors.

[rudyjuly2]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

For me to get a feel I'd have to play on ALLSTAR more than just one game. I'll do it for you from now on out to see what happens though.

Thanks Jim. Obviously it will take a number of games to get a feel for it since most teams only commit an error every other game but I've played enough to think that user (not cpu) errors are an issue with the fielding error maxed out on All-Star difficulty. I'd like more people to see this to prove I'm not crazy. Wierd things happen to the user in the field and errors aren't one of them.

[Segagendude]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Do you remember where you read these tips?

It may have been here in this thread. Anyway, I read not let the meter go to the redzone every pitch, as it wears down the pitcher and also won't break properly...

[jim416]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Can we call you crazy, regardless?

[Ryan1021]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Okay, help me out (and others). What do you mean by a "ton of errors". The gives the impression to people reading that in every game you play there are lots of errors by the AI. I think I've seen one error in the last three games I've played.

I have seen 2 or 3 errors committed by the ai in the last 4 games I have played. That is not a very large sample size but it seems like the computer commits errors at a rate of about 3 to 1 in comparison with mine. The error slider are default for both the user and ai. I am not complaining about that at all. I imagine that it is probably just coincidence and not a trend. Also I have seen several deflections off the gloves in the infield that were able to be saved from becoming an error thanks to slow base runners and quick throws.

Here is a video of the last error committed by the computer. I made a video of it because it struck me as funny that they kept making errors. This was error number 3 of the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIJPGJDb-Hs

[kingdevin]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

The cpu is inflicting comebacks on itself?

I'm saying that in most of the games Ive watched there is usually a 1-run difference in the final score. Many times I've seen one team pull away by up to 6 runs to have the other team come back and either win by one or lose by one point. I do not regularly see a greater score disparity than 1-run.

[carolo59]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

This was a good post by Michaeldu in the impressions thread.



Shocking that there's no mention of comeback code and late inning throwing errors.

Hey Jim Its Hop You And Nem are spot on, we are all thinking 08 but this is ( 09 ) its a hole new ball Game. This is great, its like I Play every Game online against you Guys in our Lea Online, sweet. Thers no way I would even consider play 08, after playing 09 again. Hop!! This what I did in my last Gm (Legend Default sliders ), winning 5-2 going into the bottom of the 9th, with two out, a walk then base hit, another walk, then came something I only see in a real ballgame,a pitch down @ away, Imean a good pitch,next thing I know its in the cheap seats. I almost had to go bye a New PS3., LoL Hop!!