Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

[jcern23]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

For those of you who think this is just a bunch of isolated games going on, I can understand that. I thought as much as well. But then I began noticing it myself I had a 10 -11 record with the Rays but when I reviewed the scores.Each and every game was decided by one run, and most, I believe in 7 of those games the AI came back in the 7th and 8th innings. Now I've played this game since it was 989 and up until this year I was always on the highest difficulty. This year I started on HOF and quickly went to AllStar, that's fine I don't want an easy game. But this game to me right now feels scripted, I even had my son's friend who is a real gamer come in and try the game on Legends using the same games as I did. here is what happened.

LA- 4-11-0
Pods-2-6-1 - 1 hr

LA- 4-3-0
Pods-3-8-0

LA- 0 -6-1
Pods-1-6-0 - 1 hr

Rays- 4-12-1 - 2hrs
R.Sox-5-6-2- 3hrs

He was both the Rays and Dodgers

I don't know why more people don't see this, but I feel like those of us who have encountered this during games are being made to feel like its some sort of "user error" on our part. I haven't been a member here for that long but I play and have played in a "Show" league for years so I think I can tell you that I have seen a lot of things in sports gaming too. I wouldn't just dismiss someones thoughts about any problems or strange happenings. The fact that its happening to so many people should send a flag up somewhere.

Exactly, there are a lot of people who play this game on these forums who will refuse to admit if there is a problem. I could easily be one of those people because I have seen so many games where I have been able to avoid the super innings. BUT, the main point is it happens way too often when the user is winning that the computers offense becomes too powerful during these so called comeback innings or whatever you want to call them. To me its as obvious as the lefty bug in MVP 05. Now in MVP 05 they could not fix it if we'd actually just get on the same page SCEA will fix it in the programming.

[rudyjuly2]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I don't believe in scripting or comeback code. A lot of my games, one team has led from start to finish and I've been beaten by a lot more than 1 run. I've had some close game and some not so close games. Nothing to make me think there is anything goofy going on.

Edit: I should add that I personally don't see it. Maybe over time but right now its just not something that's bothering me. I just know that in tough situations I really have to concentrate and think through every pitch. Its much more mentally challenging than last year and I like it.

[HustlinOwl]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I have yet to see the occasional blow out yet

[EnigmaNemesis]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Exactly, there are a lot of people who play this game on these forums who will refuse to admit if there is a problem. I could easily be one of those people because I have seen so many games where I have been able to avoid the super innings. BUT, the main point is it happens way too often when the user is winning that the computers offense becomes too powerful during these so called comeback innings or whatever you want to call them. To me its as obvious as the lefty bug in MVP 05. Now in MVP 05 they could not fix it if we'd actually just get on the same page SCEA will fix it in the programming.

Or there is just no problem, only lax in pitching.

There are plenty who DO NOT experience this, even the above post by Russell.

I have not, as well as others, but sure, we must REFUSE TO SEE IT.



This review describes what people see to the T. Adjust to the difficulty of the game, or dont. Either way, it is not some "code" or "bug", it is baseball.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...allenge-t.html

Maybe there are those who dont want to admit they are not as good as they think they are, and are making mental mistakes as well as physical ones. The game is more true to life challenging and more sim than any sports game before it. And I can see why ones would blame the game and not themselves.

Sorry if the game forces you to be a hardcore sim with a baseball mind set when it comes to pitch selection and location with the counts and runners on with individual hitter tendencies. But that is what the pitcher/hitter matchup is for when you hit select, and that is what the community asked for out of this game and how they wanted it to perform.

I love it.

[Russell_SCEA]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Just finished a game on Legend no slider tweaks I won 7 to 2 Yanks over Dodgers. Dodgers scored 2 runs in the second thats it no 7th, 8th, or 9th inning rally.

[HustlinOwl]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Just finished a game on Legend no slider tweaks I won 7 to 2 Yanks over Dodgers. Dodgers scored 2 runs in the second thats it no 7th, 8th, or 9th inning rally.

Thanks

[Jackdog]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I have yet to see the occasional blow out yet

I've blown out the Astros with the Reds twice on HOF. 11-0 and 9-0.

[jcern23]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Ive seen blowouts both ways, close games, 2 run 3 run 4 run games. Ive pretty much seen it all in about half the games Ive played. The other half well the topic of this thread says it all. This post from Russel does not surprise me to much at all. He plays four games on HOF and does not see it happen because if you can pitch and know when to change and make mound visits you can avoid it occasionally.

[EnigmaNemesis]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Ive seen blowouts both ways, close games, 2 run 3 run 4 run games. Ive pretty much seen it all in about half the games Ive played. The other half well the topic of this thread says it all. This post from Russel does not surprise me to much at all. He plays four games on HOF and does not see it happen because if you can pitch and know when to change and make mound visits you can avoid it occasionally.

And that is the point some are failing to grasp.

[SoxFan01605]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Yeah...still not seeing it either. I think whoever posted about getting complacent in late innings or not catching the warning signs in time (one of the nemesi perhaps?) was probably headed in the right direction.

I dunno, but I've just never felt the CPU was more "powered" in the late innings than any other time. The game does get tense if it's close late, but not in any way it shouldn't, IMO. Not trying to discredit or disprove anyone, I'm just honestly not seeing any of this.

[jcern23]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Well, maybe you guys that are not seeing it are right. I guess there are more people that are not seeing it than I had originally thought so with that being said I am going to play another 10 to 20 games concentrate even more on my pitching and see how I feel. Thanks to all for the stats and opinions on this matter.

[Ryan1021]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I am going to play some more games and concentrate on the pitching. As someone said before I am not seeing any blow outs either. The biggest margin of victory I have had in the last 10-12 games I have played was 3-0, everything else has been decided by 1 or 2 runs.

[bears5122]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

For those who are testing it and not seeing it, are you doing so in franchise? That is where myself and many others have noticed it taking place. Not really in exhibition.

[Ryan1021]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I played the same game again intentionally trying to keep the score low, and I won 2-1. It was scoreless until the top of the 7th when I started trying to get hits. I hit a two run homer to go up 2-0. The bottom of the 7th they double and then single to score the run. I did not really change anything in my pitching and they only got 5 hits when in the last game they had 12. I quit the other game that I posted earlier where I lost 8-7 in order to play the same game again. I am not going to save this game and I am going to go back and try and score a bunch of runs again to see what the score ends up being.

[EnigmaNemesis]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Just played another game. All-Star Default.

I chose the Red Sox @ Cubs during the day (man Cubs fans are brutal). Loved the throw it back chant and no interest in catching the HR ball from Ortiz.

Still no sign of "AI Comebacks". Nothing out of the ordinary you don't see in a regular baseball game. The game plays you tough throughout.

I won 2-1 and the 2 runs I got were from Ortiz hitting a 2-run shot to the gap in the first inning. They plated a run in the 5th when Ramirez hit a double, then was moved over on a single to left. To only score with a double play ball.

Paps came in the 9th, to strike out the side of Ramirez, Bradley, and Soto on 10 pitches. Ramirez looking (3 pitches), Bradley swinging (3 pitches), Soto swinging (4 pitches).