Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

[DarthRambo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Ruffy... it was my pleasure to start the thread lol

[bears5122]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Because the DEV said it DOES NOT EXIST, end of discussion.

And most of us "fanboys" have not seen it. And by you people CALLING US FANBOYS ... your true vindications have come out, and your MOTIVES are clear!:wink:

Learn to adjust to the new difficulty or continue to see your "anomalies".

Thread should be closed. There is no bug or code for it, dev has spoken.

I have no motive besides mentioning that I had seen some odd things going on with scores. I have not said what I thought it was or anything else. I just came in to read the thread because I was seeing something similar to others and hoping it wasn't a comeback AI.

Dev or not, people are seeing an anamolly and are discussing it. It could very well be nothing more than just a coincidence. If you don't see it, don't post in the thread. You don't need to run in every thread trying to justify your purchase.

[Skyboxer]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I am currently 5-5 (3rd in AL East on Legend mode) and I've yet to see any AI comeback. The only game that had a major comeback for the most part was when we (Yankees) were down 6-5 going to the 8th and we scored 5 in the bottom of the 8th to eventually win 10-6.
Yes you lose a lead and yes you can retake the lead.
What exactly is wrong with that?
I'm not going to go into the "Play right" stuff but this year it's more critical than ever to watch your pitchers stamina - watch the matchups late - have bullpen ready to go when you need it as the game can and will get away from you in a heart beat if you are a step late in doing something. Lastly sometimes you can do everything right as far as decisions go and you can still get beat. That's baseball.

To me that adds a ton to the game and I'm having a blast even though right now I'm 5-5.

[SoxFan01605]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)



Sorry...I've never used that little guy and I figured "why not here...why not now?"

Carry on

[swaldo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Yeah, I read your "real world" statement. Wow, go ahead. Your last two posts really say a lot. These guys have only been coming here for years and developing a game with our input (see end credits of The Show), but you're right, gotta think of the "real world".

You people are delusional if you think a major corporation developing a top selling game will come out and admit their game cheats. They are trying to make money and promote sales of PS3 units you know?

I will never be invited to Sony to preview their upcoming games and that's fine with me, it allows me to have a nuetral voice. I have said many positive things about the game and I am not trying to bring it down. I just want cheating out, period.

[OSUFan_88]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

You people are delusional if you think a major corporation developing a top selling game will come out and admit their game cheats. They are trying to make money and promote sales of PS3 units you know?

I will never be invited to Sony to preview their upcoming games and that's fine with me, it allows me to have a nuetral voice. I have said many positive things about the game and I am not trying to bring it down. I just want cheating out, period.

Me too.

Thankfully, Cheating was never in the game.

[countryboy]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

For those seeing "comeback AI":

* Is it happening every game?

* Does difficulty level matter?

* Do slider adjustments matter?

* Not sure if its an option, but does turning off clutch make a difference?

* Do you ever win?

* Does it happen in a certain inning?

* Does it happen when the score differential is at a certain mark?

* Does changing pitchers make a difference?

* Does using mound visits make a difference?

* Have you tried saving the game and reloading when you feel its happening?

If you could provide some in detail facts as to when its happening maybe the devs could take a look and see if maybe something inadvertantly is turning comeback code on?

[Jimbo68]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Getting sick of the absurb amount of 2-out rallies by cpu! looks like an easy 1-2-3 inning, but no... base hit with 2 outs, and it dont stop. happening alot, not sure if i can fix it. any suggestions?

Yes, it's happening to me way too often. Have to keep at it I guess.

[nemesis04]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

For those seeing "comeback AI":

* Is it happening every game?

* Do you ever win?

* Does it happen in a certain inning?

* Does it happen when the score differential is at a certain mark?

* Does changing pitchers make a difference?

* Does using mound visits make a difference?

* Have you tried saving the game and reloading when you feel its happening?

If you could provide some in detail facts as to when its happening maybe the devs could take a look and see if maybe something inadvertantly is turning comeback code on?

Don't bring logic into the thread CB, people just want to bitch!

[Skyboxer]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Don't bring logic into the thread CB, people just want to bitch!

I've pretty much given up in this part of OS (For a while) ever minute theres another thread about a "weakness/flaw" in the game that is rediculous...

Too many pitches are swung at, can't K the CPU, SS throwing me out too much, not enough doubles, too many doubles, comeback AI, too many 2 out rallies, umps blowing too many calls, yada yada yada...

it's starting to be laughable mainly because most if not all of these "problems" I don't see or are easily fixed with some adjustments in the sldiers and peoples gameplay.

Every day/hour there's a handfull of new crap that simply clutters the forum.

[jim416]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

You people are delusional if you think a major corporation developing a top selling game will come out and admit their game cheats. They are trying to make money and promote sales of PS3 units you know?

I will never be invited to Sony to preview their upcoming games and that's fine with me, it allows me to have a nuetral voice. I have said many positive things about the game and I am not trying to bring it down. I just want cheating out, period.

Neutral voice? Now THAT'S funny. We have been critiquing this game for YEARS (see the bugs/glitches thread). Look at the thread on hitting last year from this "delusional" gamer, lol. The word is objective, not neutral, not subjective. Continue on with your quest regarding cheating though. Talk about delusional.

[swaldo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Here is an example of what people are seeing. Twins are down 5-0 in the top of the 9th inning. CPU vs CPU on HOF level. Here is the game log of the 9th inning:

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Twins ended up losing 5-3 and I do understand results like these happen in real life. The question is it happening too often in this game?

Instead of calling out people as whiners let's try to be productive and figure out what is going on. I am - and so far have about 10 games in so far on CPU vs CPU games. Is this happening every game? No. There have been blow-outs, run of the mill games with mid-range scores (with no hint of comeback) and I've seen a couple questionable results.

This could end up being an issue with the ratings, sliders, a bug, or nothing at all. I just need samples so one way or another I can put this to rest.

[countryboy]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Here is an example of what people are seeing. Twins are down 5-0 in the top of the 9th inning. CPU vs CPU on HOF level. Here is the game log of the 9th inning:

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Twins ended up losing 5-3 and I do understand results like these happen in real life. The question is it happening too often in this game?

Instead of calling out people as whiners let's try to be productive and try to figure out what is going on. I am - and so far have about 10 games in so far on CPU vs CPU games. Is this happening every game? No. There have been blow-outs, run of the mill games with mid-range scores (with no hint of comeback) and I've seen a couple questionable results.

This could end up being an issue with the ratings, sliders, a bug, or nothing at all. I just need samples so one way or another I can put this to rest.

Here's an idea:

Take the same two teams with the same two starting pitchers(I know you can't control bullpen use/pinch hitters) and play them about 10 times in a row and see what happens with the scores and comebacks and whatnot. That way you have a constant in all games. Also, I would do this test for human vs cpu games as well.

[swaldo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

What I've done is take random teams against each other with a mix of pitchers - some aces, average and bums. Then I want to compare to real MLB games and look at a number of things - such as average runs scored, hits, errors etc but primarily looking at comebacks. I want to see how much tit-for-tat there is and late game comebacks.

For example, according to Bill Abners franchise sim tests he noted pitching was a bit juiced. If my results show the same AND there are more comebacks than real life then that would be a question mark. Better pitching should result in less comebacks. However, if my results show batting is juiced then that could be a reason more comebacks exist which slider adjustments could potentially fix.

[countryboy]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

But is using real life a good measuring stick when trying to determine a "bug" in the simulation of a video game? I understand the idea, but if you're trying to prove a "bug/glitch", I would think the best idea would be to try and re-create it.

Running random teams with random pitchers has very little constant about it and could easily be dismissed as a fluke incident.