Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

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  • DarthRambo
    MVP
    • Mar 2008
    • 6630

    #391
    re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

    im not complaining... 8-5 is ok. this gamke i started in 10-0. keeping cliff loee as pitcher every game.

    His era was 2.54 last year, cy young maybe? ki think so. if i start 7-0, final is 85, he gave up 4. ok, i can deal witrh it. but 10 or 12-0 to start, and if he gives up 5-7 in both of those? what then, huh? i dont think last year he gave up 5 or more runs in 3 straight starts last year with that era. and his attributes on this gm are based off last years performance, agree?
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    • EnigmaNemesis
      Animal Liberation
      • Apr 2006
      • 12216

      #392
      re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

      Originally posted by Trinity120
      im not complaining... 8-5 is ok. this gamke i started in 10-0. keeping cliff loee as pitcher every game.

      His era was 2.54 last year, cy young maybe? ki think so. if i start 7-0, final is 85, he gave up 4. ok, i can deal witrh it. but 10 or 12-0 to start, and if he gives up 5-7 in both of those? what then, huh? i dont think last year he gave up 5 or more runs in 3 straight starts last year with that era. and his attributes on this gm are based off last years performance, agree?
      The attributes are based off the last 3 years, with last year a little more weight.

      And I said it once and I will say it again, I don't see it, nor do some others, so the human element does have a role in it by that data. And you are just going to drive yourself man, instead of enjoying the game.
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      • DarthRambo
        MVP
        • Mar 2008
        • 6630

        #393
        re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

        if u dont see it, then why post on this thread?
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        • EnigmaNemesis
          Animal Liberation
          • Apr 2006
          • 12216

          #394
          re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

          Originally posted by Trinity120
          if u dont see it, then why post on this thread?
          If others don't see it, when why do you think it is the game?
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          • DarthRambo
            MVP
            • Mar 2008
            • 6630

            #395
            re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

            u didnt answer my question. i started the thread for suggestikons on what to do and see if others saw it. and thats it. that means for ppl who dont see anything... this thread is not aimed for you.
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            • phillyfan23
              MVP
              • Feb 2005
              • 2313

              #396
              re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

              just won another game 6-3.....

              the cpu got off to a 2-0 lead....

              i scratch a run 2-1

              then HR 2-2....

              everytime i scored, the cpu hasn't come back ONCE in the next inning to counter. this game, when i tied 2-2 , i eventually scored the next run the next inning. They did tie it 2 innings from that 3-3 but then I broke out in the 7th for 3 runs and went 2 clean innings with Madson and Lidge to get the W....

              6-3 final.

              I play on Legend by the way, and so far these season games have felt exactly like exhibition games to me. I will keep playing to see if the issue is there, but so far I haven't seen it in season mode, while I DEFINITELY haven't seen it in exhibition mode.

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              • EnigmaNemesis
                Animal Liberation
                • Apr 2006
                • 12216

                #397
                re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

                Originally posted by Trinity120
                u didnt answer my question. i started the thread for suggestikons on what to do and see if others saw it. and thats it. that means for ppl who dont see anything... this thread is not aimed for you.

                Sounds like a pointless thread then. Since people who are not having this issue, can not chime in, or have advice taken at face value.

                Rather a thread for ones who refuse to listen to ones without the problem (because this thread is not for them), and wallow by posting in a 360 degree fashion.

                Doesn't sound too resourceful or productive if you ask me by that logic.
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                • DarthRambo
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 6630

                  #398
                  re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

                  i dunno if game difficulty matters, it shouldnt tho. i dont cloaim to be great at the game. buut i do know how to at least lol... default sliders?
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                  • EnigmaNemesis
                    Animal Liberation
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 12216

                    #399
                    re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

                    Originally posted by phillyfan23
                    just won another game 6-3.....

                    the cpu got off to a 2-0 lead....

                    i scratch a run 2-1

                    then HR 2-2....

                    everytime i scored, the cpu hasn't come back ONCE in the next inning to counter. this game, when i tied 2-2 , i eventually scored the next run the next inning. They did tie it 2 innings from that 3-3 but then I broke out in the 7th for 3 runs and went 2 clean innings with Madson and Lidge to get the W....

                    6-3 final.

                    I play on Legend by the way, and so far these season games have felt exactly like exhibition games to me. I will keep playing to see if the issue is there, but so far I haven't seen it in season mode, while I DEFINITELY haven't seen it in exhibition mode.
                    Sounds like a heck of a game, and much like what I have experienced. Have you tried lesser difficulties, and notice a difference as far as competitive games?
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                    • DarthRambo
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6630

                      #400
                      re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

                      10-4 top of 6th. scored 2 on me in 6th, run hr by sheff, other unearned due to error by cabreera. ball went ri9ght through his legs. not the first time ive seen this happen.. betancourt in the game now to pitch.
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                      • phillyfan23
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 2313

                        #401
                        re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

                        Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                        Sounds like a heck of a game, and much like what I have experienced. Have you tried lesser difficulties, and notice a difference as far as competitive games?
                        i haven't tried lower difficulties no....

                        when I saw this thread today( didn't know it was such a big issue on the board) I was really really worried because I have experienced this comeback code in other games and they were exclusive to season/franchise.

                        It was so obvious, but thankfully I haven't noticed it yet from the 2 games that I'vve played.

                        But I will keep checking for weird happenings, but honeslty, I don't think I will find any. Comeback code, if it's in, should be so obvious that it shows up in any game u play.

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                        • EnigmaNemesis
                          Animal Liberation
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 12216

                          #402
                          re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

                          Originally posted by phillyfan23
                          i haven't tried lower difficulties no....

                          when I saw this thread today( didn't know it was such a big issue on the board) I was really really worried because I have experienced this comeback code in other games and they were exclusive to season/franchise.

                          It was so obvious, but thankfully I haven't noticed it yet from the 2 games that I'vve played.

                          But I will keep checking for weird happenings, but honeslty, I don't think I will find any. Comeback code, if it's in, should be so obvious that it shows up in any game u play.
                          That is the thing I think most are failing to understand.

                          They give this "comeback code" too much credit. After hearing how the CPU is scoring, they are putting way too much stake into that certain code having so many variables. From errors, to HRs, to sac flies, to passed balls... way too much variables in the code.

                          Would be the most intelligent code in gaming known to man. Because judging by the variables these people are given, sounds like real baseball to me, and they should be thankful.
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                          • DarthRambo
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 6630

                            #403
                            re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

                            i dont believe its a comeback code... not claiming that. it could just be too much emphasis on the clutch rating attribute for pitchers. it may be nothing at all, not saying its impossible. but i want ol test it the best way i logically can right now. that way is by raising all pitchers clutch to max(99) then play games,n purposely giving them a large lead then take control of them to see if i can hold it.
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                            • DarthRambo
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6630

                              #404
                              re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

                              Game 2

                              DET 0 1 1 0 0 2 0 0 2 6 11 0
                              CLE 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 X 10 14 2

                              C. Lee 5.1ip 9h 4r 3er 1bb 6k
                              J. Lewis 1.2ip 2h 2r 2er 1bb 3k


                              I will say i am pretty satisfied with results of this one. there were odd things happening. i.e. error when they happpened to have runner on 2nd. pitchers about completely lost control in spurts of game.

                              SOmething happens in the game, dont know what it is, or what to call it, but i cant sit here and say theres not odd things happening anytime i have a big lead. philly, try what im doing on a season game, =without saving it, just to see what happens.
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                              • EnigmaNemesis
                                Animal Liberation
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 12216

                                #405
                                re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

                                Originally posted by Trinity120
                                i dont believe its a comeback code... not claiming that. it could just be too much emphasis on the clutch rating attribute for pitchers. it may be nothing at all, not saying its impossible. but i want ol test it the best way i logically can right now. that way is by raising all pitchers clutch to max(99) then play games,n purposely giving them a large lead then take control of them to see if i can hold it.

                                Now it seems you are digging too much.

                                If clutch actually mattered like you think (which I think it doesn't, since a lot of ratings are tied into each other instead of a sole one), then the results would vary big time, due to different clutch ratings on different pitchers and hitters on different teams with different at bats, different situations, different innings, yada yada yada.

                                And if clutch had anything to do with the other team rallying, no matter what, isn't that just "comeback code"?

                                But you are seeing the same you say, no matter what games you play which have varying circumstances.



                                Originally posted by Trinity120
                                Game 2

                                DET 0 1 1 0 0 2 0 0 2 6 11 0
                                CLE 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 X 10 14 2

                                C. Lee 5.1ip 9h 4r 3er 1bb 6k
                                J. Lewis 1.2ip 2h 2r 2er 1bb 3k


                                I will say i am pretty satisfied with results of this one. there were odd things happening. i.e. error when they happpened to have runner on 2nd. pitchers about completely lost control in spurts of game.

                                SOmething happens in the game, dont know what it is, or what to call it, but i cant sit here and say theres not odd things happening anytime i have a big lead. philly, try what im doing on a season game, =without saving it, just to see what happens.
                                I see what is happening. It is called baseball. Those things happen every day in baseball. I don't get why there still has to be something wrong here? You still won, and Lee overcame your pessimism going in by not allowing over 4 runs like you feared otherwise. I don't get why you are reaching so much.

                                Do you expect to not have competitive games, and just shut out the competition? You are playing Detroit you know. They are not a slouch offensively.

                                Just have fun man, you are having some great gaming.
                                Last edited by EnigmaNemesis; 03-13-2009, 04:58 AM.
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