Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

[loogs]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

this issue is really starting to get to me. its actually making me not want to play the game. its insane that i played a great game up till the 9th inning where i finally scratched out 1 run, only to bring my closer in and see him blow the game and lose 2-1 to all bench players and no names.

or, to be up 6-0 and to just watch the cpu chip away at my lead and to finally take the lead and beat me 9-8 again, with my closer on the mound and the cpu bench players hacking away.

its really annoying. its happened almost every game. i swore that the comeback option was on, but its not. i really hope they address this issue.

[bears5122]

Re: Comeback AI: A scientific analysis

I think we might see even closer games to real life games if we raised the pitching clutch a bit.
It would cut down on the hits...and a little less unraveling in the late innings for runs.

M.K.
Knight165

I think that's a good idea. Clutch has no business in the game so any way we can lessen the effect is better.

In CPU vs CPU games, the runs allowed are fine, but the blown saves are way up from what we'd see in real life. I see just under 1 a game (18 in 25 games) when averaging out all the CPU vs CPU games. In a season, that would equate to teams having 50-60 or so a year, double what the league leaders had.

[clay4607]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I am 50 games into my dynasty. I started off on HOF and default sliders. Was getting rocked at first, so I decided to tweak some sliders till I got use to the game a bit more. I am now on All-Star doing decent. I have worked my way back up to 24-26. There is definitely something going on with when they get a hit they just keep on going. Not every game but it seems like if they get a hit in the 7th 8th or 9th it is hard to stop them from getting two three or four more in a row. I know people are coming on here saying you are pitching the same or leaving your pitcher in to long. Possible, but many times i have put in a reliever, done a mound visit or definitely changed up more pitching. As in starting them off with a different pitch than usual or a different location. Like I said not all the time but some games I am up in the 7th 8th or 9th and it is almost impossible to get them out after I have done so thru 6 innings. I have played enough games to see something is up. Not sure if it is confidence, cluth, or what. If some don't want to believe me that's fine I am still going to play the game because it is fun but frustrating when it's almost impossible to get them out.

I also see some on here saying you don't know how to pitch to some people that are having this problem. My question is why are they winning so often thru 6 innings and always lose in the 7th 8th or 9th. I believe they know what they are doing and that somehow the computer is getting a boost. Not sure when or how but it is there. If you don't agree with me that's fine but I am just putting down what i see.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

bears5122,

You keep saying Clutch has no business being in the game. But you give no reasons. And considering we dont know 100% of what the ratings do, since it is a development secret, we cant really say hear no there on that rating. Why dont you think it should be there?

As for loogs, keep your chin, up and keep practicing. Hit up some advice threads for hitting and pitching. The devs said there is no comeback code, not even "comeback code on/off" is comeback code.

I think they need to patch us gamers.

[clay4607]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

bears5122,

You keep saying Clutch has no business being in the game. But you give no reasons. And considering we dont know 100% of what the ratings do, since it is a development secret, we cant really say hear no there on that rating. Why dont you think it should be there?

As for loogs, keep your chin, up and keep practicing. Hit up some advice threads for hitting and pitching. The devs said there is no comeback code, not even "comeback code on/off" is comeback code.

I think they need to patch us gamers.

I dont understand what you mean when you say the devs said there is no comeback code? There is an option that says cpu comeback handicap. What in the world do you think that is?

[OSUFan_88]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I dont understand what you mean when you say the devs said there is no comeback code? There is an option that says cpu comeback handicap. What in the world do you think that is?

An optional ratings boost if you're down. It can be on or off.

There is no SECRET comeback code.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I dont understand what you mean when you say the devs said there is no comeback code? There is an option that says cpu comeback handicap. What in the world do you think that is?

The devs said there is no AI comeback code programmed into the game. None, zero, zilch, nada. That option just gives either side (CPU and Player) a slight boost in ratings with close games. But there is NO CODE, that will cause artificial errors, walks, strikes, misplays, hits, etc. like other games of the past.

There is just no other way to name that, thus it is the name it gets. And is there for people who find the game too easy, and want to maintain a compatative edge the whole time in close games.

[bears5122]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

bears5122,

You keep saying Clutch has no business being in the game. But you give no reasons. And considering we dont know 100% of what the ratings do, since it is a development secret, we cant really say hear no there on that rating. Why dont you think it should be there?

As for loogs, keep your chin, up and keep practicing. Hit up some advice threads for hitting and pitching. The devs said there is no comeback code, not even "comeback code on/off" is comeback code.

I think they need to patch us gamers.

Clutch doesn't exist in baseball so I don't think it should be in the game.

[clay4607]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

The devs said there is no AI comeback code programmed into the game. None, zero, zilch, nada. That option just gives either side (CPU and Player) a slight boost in ratings with close games. But there is NO CODE, that will cause artificial errors, walks, strikes, misplays, hits, etc. like other games of the past.

There is just no other way to name that, thus it is the name it gets. And is there for people who find the game too easy, and want to maintain a compatative edge the whole time in close games.

Why is it even an option? They put in Legend and act like that is ridiculously hard. I think it needs to be taken out because I think sometimes that boost is getting into the game if it is turned on or off no matter what they say.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Clutch doesn't exist in baseball so I don't think it should be in the game.

Why do you say that?

There has been tons of clutch (Papi) and non-cluth (A-rod) performances, especially in the playoffs. They have whole books, stats, and science involved on the subject.

They can just rename the stat "great/poor under certain pressure" and still serve the same purpose.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Why is it even an option? They put in Legend and act like that is ridiculously hard. I think it needs to be taken out because I think sometimes that boost is getting into the game if it is turned on or off no matter what they say.

Then you are beating a dead horse. Because no matter what they say, you wont believe them, and nothing will come of this, because it is you versus them on this stance.

It is there for those who cant hang in Legend, and want to play on lower difficulty levels, yet want to keep the close games close. Also it is NO GUARANTEE, it is "slight" ratings boost. There is no guarantees in that.

It is not cheap code, that will force errors, hits, walks, etc. It is non-guaranteed.

[clay4607]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

No, I have played 50 games it has happened so many times. On or Off doesn't matter. They are getting ratings boost in the last 3rd of the game. Don't care if you believe or not because I see it and I am just sharing with other people it is there.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

No, I have played 50 games it has happened so many times. On or Off doesn't matter. They are getting ratings boost in the last 3rd of the game. Don't care if you believe or not because I see it and I am just sharing with other people it is there.

And there are those of us who do not see it, proven with screenshots, and we are sharing with other people that it is not there.

[clay4607]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

And there are those of us who do not see it, proven with screenshots, and we are sharing with other people that it is not there.

So you are right and I am wrong. What that's pretty good that you can tell from a screenshot. Well that definitely proves it then. I am playing the game and seeing it. Like I said I am 50 games into my season and something is there. Not sure what it is but something is there. Are you playing dynasty or exhibition?

[clay4607]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

maybe the team your playing with has more clutch pitchers. I have no idea. Try with a different team and see.