Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

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  • garce
    Rookie
    • May 2009
    • 5

    #511
    Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

    I don't mind leading a close game 4-3 (e.g.) only to lose by a couple of runs because the home team made a comeback late in the game.

    During RTTS games, though, my team will be leading by a couple of runs only to have the dreaded "Fast forwarding...." notice pop up during innings 7 to 9, and I magically find myself trailing by a massive margin.

    I only play RTTS and I DO like win sometimes (and play for teams beside the Red Sox and Yankees).

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    • swaldo
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 1268

      #512
      Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

      LOL, I took a break from this forum and comeback to see comeback threads are still alive and kicking - and the mods playing whack a mole with them. I just got to the point where I couldn't play it anymore, which is a shame because it's a great game. Fortunately, UFC Undisputed has given me something else to play with.

      MgtWhackAMole.GIF

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      • davewins
        MVP
        • Sep 2005
        • 1913

        #513
        Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

        swaldo unfortunatley that's the price you pay when you have dev's in the forums. "negative" threads will be closed.

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        • Woodweaver
          Developer
          • Apr 2006
          • 1145

          #514
          Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

          Originally posted by davewins
          swaldo unfortunatley that's the price you pay when you have dev's in the forums. "Incredibly repetitive" threads will be closed.
          Fixed.
          "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"

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          • chuckm1961
            MVP
            • Mar 2005
            • 1429

            #515
            Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

            Originally posted by davewins
            swaldo unfortunatley that's the price you pay when you have dev's in the forums. "negative" threads will be closed.
            Wow. You live a strange, paranoid world, dude.

            Correction: threads about a perceived "AI comeback" or "reverse AI comeback" will likely be closed. The developers have categorically stated it does not exist, so threads about how to "fix" it are pointless.

            There are plenty of "negative" threads that are wide open on other topics: glitches, errors in uniforms or stadiums or player stances, problems with mechanics of pitching or hitting or fielding, suggestions for improvement, and on and on.

            It doesn't appear you can acknowledge that you were wrong about the "AI Comeback", so now you've moved on to conspiracy theories.
            Last edited by chuckm1961; 06-02-2009, 11:25 AM.
            [Insert clever, personally-relevant, or cutting-edge remark, data, link, or picture]

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            • nyisles16
              All Star
              • Apr 2003
              • 8317

              #516
              Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

              We do not mind if there are negative posts about a game - we DO mind when it posts basically talk about the same thing, over and over again. It clutters up the forums.

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              • fortyfive
                Banned
                • May 2008
                • 236

                #517
                Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

                Originally posted by swaldo
                LOL, I took a break from this forum and comeback to see comeback threads are still alive and kicking - and the mods playing whack a mole with them. I just got to the point where I couldn't play it anymore, which is a shame because it's a great game. Fortunately, UFC Undisputed has given me something else to play with.

                [ATTACH]16480[/ATTACH]
                It's a real shame you stopped playing this game so early on. Almost everyone on this forum has experienced the so-called "comeback" issue again and again. I for one, can assure you that it is there, but it GOES BOTH WAYS. I think the devs just wanted to raise the level of excitement because after all it is a video game and baseball can be "long" for some people due to a lack of drama. So yes there is some sort of "rubber band" effect but it is oin place for both human and AI. One reason I was losing a lot of games on comebacks was that I didn't play out the game careful enough. Like in real life, they can zip through the first 7 innings, but the last 2-3 can take just as long. Take your time and think like a real life manager. It really bothers me that you've given up playing this game. It is, IMO, the best game ever made. Please stick with it. The rewards sweet and plentiful. Please PM me if you need any tips or words of encouragement.

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                • mcseven
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 162

                  #518
                  Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

                  It really does have to do with the pitcher's energy and confidence. Once the pitcher gets tired is when my problems start.

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                  • moemoe24
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 1996

                    #519
                    Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

                    Originally posted by swaldo
                    LOL, I took a break from this forum and comeback to see comeback threads are still alive and kicking - and the mods playing whack a mole with them. I just got to the point where I couldn't play it anymore, which is a shame because it's a great game. Fortunately, UFC Undisputed has given me something else to play with.

                    [ATTACH]16480[/ATTACH]
                    Hey man, long time no see. Hate to hear you quit playing. How come you did that?? You were really into it for a while. I can say in All Star mode I didn't notice any comeback or rubberband AI. Now HOF is a different story. Not so much any comeback but I do see the rubberband AI on this level.

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                    • ARMORALLL
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 413

                      #520
                      Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

                      Is this a problem in rtts modes also?

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                      • chuckm1961
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 1429

                        #521
                        Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

                        Originally posted by ARMORALLL
                        Is this a problem in rtts modes also?
                        There is no "problem," so the answer is no.
                        [Insert clever, personally-relevant, or cutting-edge remark, data, link, or picture]

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                        • ImTellinTim
                          YNWA
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 33028

                          #522
                          Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

                          Originally posted by chuckm1961
                          There is no "problem," so the answer is no.
                          Amen. I play on default and find the idea of "CPU comeback code" to be ridiculous.

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                          • fortyfive
                            Banned
                            • May 2008
                            • 236

                            #523
                            Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

                            I've come to realize that, for myself anyway, that what I was perceiving as "rubberband/comeback" whatever you call it is actually the realism of this game manifesting itself. I did not give the devs enough credit for this game. So I thought this was some built in code to kidn of " dumbed down" the game. On the contrary. This game mimicks, almost to a tee at times, the flow of a baseball game and most (if not all) the tough decisions a mangager and pitcher (all players for that matter) must make throughout a game. I'm sure if you asked a RL manager why his team lost a game they were leading 7-0 in the eighth, he could give you 3 or 4 mistakes (brain farts) that he made to open the door for the opposing team. Not making a visit to the mound, leaving the pitcher in too long. Trying for the K pitch when he shoulda been pitching for contact, making a sure out instead of prolonging an inning (VERY deadly in this game) and so on. I can say that practically every game that I lost due to supposed "comeback AI" was due to a lack of fundamental baseball decisions towards the end of a game. The last three innings should take you almost as long as the first six. Be purposeful on every pitch, every play. One last thing....It goes both ways. Notice how the CPU has shaky innings also. Don't help them out by getting easy outs. Keep the pressure on.

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                            • PsychoBulk
                              Hoping for change...
                              • May 2006
                              • 4191

                              #524
                              Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

                              Bravo fortyfive, bravo.

                              Absolutely, 100%, spot on.

                              Thanks for restoring some of my faith in OS

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                              • ImTellinTim
                                YNWA
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 33028

                                #525
                                Re: For those that question the comebacks and AI play late in the game.

                                fortyfive, you have just made the best post I've seen on here so far. Welcome to the good side!

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