Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

[baa7]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

THAT is not a discussion. It's argumentative.

Nice post. But the fact is many discussions in this forum turn into arguments because those people who don't like to hear about these possible issues, feel they need to pop into these threads and start arguing.

[EnigmaNemesis]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Nice post. But the fact is many discussions in this forum turn into arguments because those people who don't like to hear about these possible issues, feel they need to pop into these threads and start arguing.

Or people who like to pull things out of thin air because they like to be argumentative, and know "the loyals" will come in.

Amirite?

I think you know this by now baa7, and did you ever get the PS3 and this game? Because in the past you would argue till you were blue in the face without even having it.

[bears5122]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

It detracts from this community, which never dealt with these things in the past.

And is a slap to the devs face when they are called liars straight up. And would not be surprised if these types of things are allowed to continue, that the interaction with them will not.

Why aren't you in an uproar over in the sliders forum? Those people have been calling the devs liars about the doubles issue for a couple weeks now.

I'll leave my final thoughts on this since it's not going anywhere and just becoming a sideshow from a thread that actually had some substance. What detracts from a community is different in everyone's perspective. I think uproars over things like lighting and what color the dugout bench is are distractions from important aspects of the game. But ultimately I don't demand those threads closed because it's a community, and ultimately that community will determine what it feels is important. Speaking on the behalf of the entire community seems arrogant on your part.

This isn't even about this thread, it's about any thread that has a serious discussion on a game. I don't think anyone is calling the devs flat out liars, I just think they are saying that they are seeing something different. It would not be the first time that devs and gamers see differently on a game. If they make themselves look like fools, than so be it. But your defense isn't based on what's best for the community, but based on your own emotional attachment to the game. I think that is a bigger detractor to the forum than some silly conspiracy threads.

I apologize for sidetracking the thread that is on the actual game. I am done with arguing the merits of the thread and will stick to the topic only from here on out.

[jim416]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I think it sets a bad precedent to just close thrads because a dev says so

When has a dev ever said to close a thread here?

Yeah, the dev has come on several times because he has to defend himself against things baa7 professes, who can blame that? Last I checked he doesn't have a PS3 and doesn't have this game. He can still post all he wants, but baa7 still comes here and points the finger at others. Seems like the pot stirrer just stirring the pot.

It works both ways.

With that, later.

And baa7 if I, how did you say it to Russell, "struck a nerve" with you, PM me.

[magoo1967]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

On a lighter note, my wife & I got into a minor argument earlier (nothing to do with the game, surprisingly enough). After a few back & forth quips she made a point that I really couldn't argue, so I just looked at her and told her that I think she's been programmed with some kind of "comeback code"...she told me that I was programmed with "crazy code", this made me laugh & laugh

[EnigmaNemesis]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

But ultimately I don't demand those threads closed because it's a community, and ultimately that community will determine what it feels is important. Speaking on the behalf of the entire community seems arrogant on your part.

And now you are speaking tongue in cheek, because I am a part of the community, as well as Jim, SoxFan, CB, and many others on here. So we are deciding this is not important, since the game PLAYS you HARD throughout. And the dev confirmed no such code or bug exists.

But I guess since you say it is all me, and I am not really a part of this community, I guess I cant decide. (sarcasm)

Thanks for the double standards on your threads of choice.

[jim416]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

On a lighter note, my wife & I got into a minor argument earlier (nothing to do with the game, surprisingly enough). After a few back & forth quips she made a point that I really couldn't argue, so I just looked at her and told her that I think she's been programmed with some kind of "comeback code"...she told me that I was programmed with "crazy code", this made me laugh & laugh

Can't top that, lol.

[PsychoBulk]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

This thread is funny and sad at the same time.

Probably best for all concerned if its put to sleep now.

[swaldo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

So after 9 games of CPU vs CPU HOF level here are some prelim results:

Avg runs per game: 10.11
MLB average: 9.75

Good numbers there so that's the good news. However, two games back there were a total of 5 comebacks in the game and the last game played was Dodgers at Giants. LA up 5-2 bottom of the 9th. Giants rallied but a throw out at home plate ended the charge and they only ended up getting 1 run. I have pics of all games box scores and will post when I have enough of a sample size.

So far no conclusions and trying to stay productive here. In regards to calling the devs liars, I really hated to have to even suggest that. However, this "Hey, they devs said everything is ok so end of story, end of thread." I mean c'mon....do you all beleive everything you hear? And again I'm not making any accusations. I'm just suggesting that if there was cheating programmed into the game, it's silly to think they will come out and admit it.

[nemesis04]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

However, this "Hey, they devs said everything is ok so end of story, end of thread." I mean c'mon....do you all beleive everything you hear? And again I'm not making any accusations. I'm just suggesting that if there was cheating programmed into the game, it's silly to think they will come out and admit it.

When I am standing in front of them talking about this and they seem very sincere and passionate about these topics, then yes I do believe them without question.

[jim416]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

So far no conclusions and trying to stay productive here. In regards to calling the devs liars, I really hated to have to even suggest that. However, this "Hey, they devs said everything is ok so end of story, end of thread." I mean c'mon....do you all beleive everything you hear? And again I'm not making any accusations.

So, you're not suggesting it, but you're suggesting it. You really hated to have to suggest they're liars, huh?

A lot of people here have been dealing with the developers for years and you
come along and are going to save us all from ourselves.

Thanks for being "productive", but you really need to take your inference that these people are dishonest, and we are nothing but naive, someplace else.

[EnigmaNemesis]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

In regards to calling the devs liars, I really hated to have to even suggest that. However, this "Hey, they devs said everything is ok so end of story, end of thread." I mean c'mon....do you all beleive everything you hear? And again I'm not making any accusations. I'm just suggesting that if there was cheating programmed into the game, it's silly to think they will come out and admit it.

Why you do in the beginning and end of your paragraph.

:wink:

[swaldo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

The reason I say this, is if you're playing franchise or random games, you have other factors that come into play. Maybe you're team(bullpen) is in a slump during franchise, maybe you just happen to stumble across two game in a row where the bullpen of the random teams your playing as just blow up. You have to try and eliminate as many outside factors as you can.

That's a good idea to try identical games multiple times. However, I want to compare results to the league average so this will require random teams and pitchers. If someone else wants to test your method that would be great.

[countryboy]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

So far no conclusions and trying to stay productive here. In regards to calling the devs liars, I really hated to have to even suggest that. However, this "Hey, they devs said everything is ok so end of story, end of thread." I mean c'mon....do you all beleive everything you hear? And again I'm not making any accusations. I'm just suggesting that if there was cheating programmed into the game, it's silly to think they will come out and admit it.

Come on swaldo, what benefit do they gain by purposely putting in "cheating"? In my opinion, that would turn off gamers to the series.

[bears5122]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Has anyone considered the "clutch" rating? Most of the complaints seem to be on the pitching end and not having the same control over your pitcher during the close games. Wouldn't that be a factor of "clutch"? Perhaps it has too much of an emphasis when holding a lead or in close games.