Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

[fortyfive]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I think people need to get over it. It's called baseball....if you give up runs, take your pitcher out, he's probably tired. If there are errors, maybe your team is young and commits a lot of errors. I really do not want SCEA to take the sim out of baseball to please a few people who cannot stand losing a game or two.

Da Nile is not just a river in Egypt:wink:

[steelcurtain311]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

The comebacks happen to frequently in the game, it isn't realistic. You go up there and make perfect pitchers, but the AI slaps them out there like it's nothing. It's usually like 4 straight hits in a row or something like that. While it does happen in real life, it isn't logical in the game, due to how frequent it happens. It's not like a HUGE problem to me, but it is a bit silly and kind of annoying with how often it happens. It's clearly a bug/glitch of some kind in the AI gameplay.

[FocusYoMindOnDis]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I can see you guys arent Mets fans. Because if you were, you'd know that NO LEAD IS EVER SAFE! =(

[magoo1967]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I think people need to get over it. It's called baseball....if you give up runs, take your pitcher out, he's probably tired. If there are errors, maybe your team is young and commits a lot of errors. I really do not want SCEA to take the sim out of baseball to please a few people who cannot stand losing a game or two.

Nobody's talking about a game or two. It's happening in nearly every game, with fully rested top end pitchers, it's beyond absurd. This is not at all like real baseball (quite the opposite really). I am begging that SCEA brings the sim BACK to the game with some type of patch to get rid of this nonsense.

[steelcurtain311]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Nobody's talking about a game or two. It's happening in nearly every game, with fully rested top end pitchers, it's beyond absurd. This is not at all like real baseball (quite the opposite really). I am begging that SCEA brings the sim BACK to the game with some type of patch to get rid of this nonsense.

Yeah, it goes beyond the logic of real baseball. You're not going to bring in a top reliever and he's suddenly going to get lit up for 5 hits in a row, every game. I mean, it's not EVERY game, but it happens frequently enough to where you have to question it. It's not like it's the users fault either, I'm making good pitches and it still happens.

[Russell_SCEA]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

There is no comeback A.I. in the game if you have it turned off period.

[nemesis04]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

There is no comeback A.I. in the game if you have it turned off period.

You can say this until you are blue in the face Ramone. People can't seem to let it go!

[DarthRambo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

LOL well u heard it folks! straight from the horses mouth, thanks for clearin this up for us Russ

[magoo1967]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

There is no comeback A.I. in the game if you have it turned off period.

No disrespect Russell, but something definitely seems amiss here, too many people are seeing it too often. It must have happened in 7 or 8 of my last 10 games. using guys like Mariano Rivera and K-Rod. I know these things sometimes happen in baseball, but it is usually the exception not the norm. It's not like I never played the game before, I have been playing The Show for years (previous years on HOF difficulty but this year I have dropped to All-Star & even Veteran and I still am seeing this regularly). It seems like you get one or two outs in the 9th and all of a sudden the CPU gets 3 or 4 hits in a row with a fielding error mixed in. I never saw this type of thing happen so frequently in previous years versions. I'm all for a challenge, but at this point I feel that it's pre-determined that I am supposed to lose no matter what I do.

[DarthRambo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

No disrespect Russell, but something definitely seems amiss here, too many people are seeing it too often. It must have happened in 7 or 8 of my last 10 games. using guys like Mariano Rivera and K-Rod. I know these things sometimes happen in baseball, but it is usually the exception not the norm. It's not like I never played the game before, I have been playing The Show for years (previous years on HOF difficulty but this year I have dropped to All-Star & even Veteran and I still am seeing this regularly). It seems like you get one or two outs in the 9th and all of a sudden the CPU gets 3 or 4 hits in a row with a fielding error mixed in. I never saw this type of thing happen so frequently in previous years versions. I'm all for a challenge, but at this point I feel that it's pre-determined that I am supposed to lose no matter what I do.

Well said... too many people are seeing it, therefore it must be a problem. comeback may not be on, but its liked player ratings on my team, drop. Especially pitchers and infielders. No matter what I do, it happens. I won't disaagree withyou Russell, in if its off, its off. But something is wrong here, maybe player ratings drop with 2 outs? I'm not sure at this point.

[fortyfive]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

No disrespect Russell, but something definitely seems amiss here, too many people are seeing it too often. It must have happened in 7 or 8 of my last 10 games. using guys like Mariano Rivera and K-Rod. I know these things sometimes happen in baseball, but it is usually the exception not the norm. It's not like I never played the game before, I have been playing The Show for years (previous years on HOF difficulty but this year I have dropped to All-Star & even Veteran and I still am seeing this regularly). It seems like you get one or two outs in the 9th and all of a sudden the CPU gets 3 or 4 hits in a row with a fielding error mixed in. I never saw this type of thing happen so frequently in previous years versions. I'm all for a challenge, but at this point I feel that it's pre-determined that I am supposed to lose no matter what I do.

Well put. The one thing I will say is that I thing they tried to make strategy "make or break" you more this year than last. Now that I know the comeback IS coming I really hunker(sp) down and strategize. DO NOT give in to the batter. Walk him and go after the next guy. Mix it up(pitches and locations). Throw pitches to spots you normally wouldn't. Be creative. When we watch a real ball game I think most people take for granted the amount of strategy employed especially in late innings. Not only by the manager, but the players as well. I do agree that the comebacks are over done. But it does go both ways. That's for sure. I'd like a patch.

[Russell_SCEA]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

No disrespect Russell, but something definitely seems amiss here, too many people are seeing it too often. It must have happened in 7 or 8 of my last 10 games. using guys like Mariano Rivera and K-Rod. I know these things sometimes happen in baseball, but it is usually the exception not the norm. It's not like I never played the game before, I have been playing The Show for years (previous years on HOF difficulty but this year I have dropped to All-Star & even Veteran and I still am seeing this regularly). It seems like you get one or two outs in the 9th and all of a sudden the CPU gets 3 or 4 hits in a row with a fielding error mixed in. I never saw this type of thing happen so frequently in previous years versions. I'm all for a challenge, but at this point I feel that it's pre-determined that I am supposed to lose no matter what I do.

Sample size now if you play another 7 to 10 games and the cpu never scores a run then what?

With a game as deep and dynamic as the Show it's literally impossible to come up with educated impressions without a sample size of over 30+ games with no slider tweaks what so ever.

So its really hard for me to even comment on this thread because I know many are having knee jerk reactions. Also there are many factors one must calculate when you say the cpu constantly haves two inning rally's. How are you pitching is it a repetitive rotation of low to high fast balls and change ups? Are you aggressive when you are ahead in the count? The cpu notices these tendencies and adapts. (Just as a real batter would)

[DarthRambo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Sample size now if you play another 7 to 10 games and the cpu never scores a run then what?

With a game as deep and dynamic as the Show it's literally impossible to come up with educated impressions without a sample size of over 30+ games with no slider tweaks what so ever.

So its really hard for me to even comment on this thread because I know many are having knee jerk reactions. Also there are many factors one must calculate when you say the cpu constantly haves two inning rally's. How are you pitching is it a repetitive rotation of low to high fast balls and change ups? Are you aggressive when you are ahead in the count? The cpu notices these tendencies and adapts. (Just as a real batter would)

I will admit Russell, I use API, and just me personally, I pitch the pitch type and location catcher suggests for me to pitch. However, you say the batter will adjust, but wouldn't the catcher adjust as well and callout different pitches/locations? I think the catcher calling the games does just fine for me. What about the infielders commiting errors all the time in these situations? And the dropped balls when attempting to turn double plays? And the bobbled grounders that lead to safe at first? Thats all I have to say, no offense to you or anyone at SCEA, the game is amazing, best baseball game I've ever played. But main question is, if the batter adjusts, wouldn't the catcher do so as well if we're using api?

[Russell_SCEA]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I will admit Russell, I use API, and just me personally, I pitch the pitch type and location catcher suggests for me to pitch. However, you say the batter will adjust, but wouldn't the catcher adjust as well and callout different pitches/locations? I think the catcher calling the games does just fine for me. What about the infielders commiting errors all the time in these situations? And the dropped balls when attempting to turn double plays? And the bobbled grounders that lead to safe at first? Thats all I have to say, no offense to you or anyone at SCEA, the game is amazing, best baseball game I've ever played. But main question is, if the batter adjusts, wouldn't the catcher do so as well if we're using api?

What the catcher calls is a suggestion not a declaration of what you must do. MLB pitchers nod off pitches all the time if its something you feel fishy about don't throw it. Like a high fastball in their hot zones for example.

This game is far from easy my best advice is to keep at it know one is going to master this game within a week after release. Until you get a large number of games under your belt. I thought B Ma had a personal vendetta against me until I played over 40 something games and got the feel for it again.

[DarthRambo]

re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Ok, I can understand the pitching deal, but what about the infielders, and their constant errors and dtropped/bobbled balls in the late innings? Ive turned fielding errors to 1 just now, and pitcher consistency to 7, to see if it stops the errors, and passed balls in the late innings, so we'll see.