so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

[jim416]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

It's called business Jim. I wouldn't be surprised if they knew this was a glitch and it was in their best interest to not say anything.

I am not calling them out and saying that's what they did but it's a possibility. It's business and I would completley understand where they are coming from. I just think that they THINK that it's not broken/reversed. Just like we THINK what we want to THINK. There is no proof. Enjoying the game with it ON better then OFF is not proof that it's reversed just as playing with it OFF rather then ON isn't proof. It's all circumstantial there is no hard evidence.

In the end, it's their opinion vs ours. That's what it comes down to. I have a right to believe what I want to believe. I don't need them to tell me that it's not broken when they can't come up with hard evidence. They are just going by their experiments. 100+ games played with it OFF vs about 65+ games playing with it ON is enough "experiment" for me to personally have my opinion as well.

Believe what you want to believe, Dave, lol. But you're assuming way too much based on something you continue to infer is broken but then it's just cirumstantial, no "hard" evidence. If it was happening to everyone, you'd have a case, it's not. (Unless someone wants to pull the "blinders" analogy out.) So, I'll choose to believe the devs, you can believe it's just business and continue to say "til you're blue in the face", that it's broken.

These guys are acknowledging glitches in this game, asking for our help to fix them. They are not asking us for help fixing something they say is not broken, and many more say isn't broken. Good business to take care of the bugs and glitches, but for some reason this one.....no, they're gonna be quiet on this one? just business, lol.

[davewins]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Believe what you want to believe, Dave, lol. But you're assuming way too much based on something you continue to infer is broken but then it's just cirumstantial, no "hard" evidence. If it was happening to everyone, you'd have a case, it's not. (Unless someone wants to pull the "blinders" analogy out.) So, I'll choose to believe the devs, you can believe it's just business and continue to say "til you're blue in the face", that it's broken.

These guys are acknowledging glitches in this game, asking for our help to fix them. They are not asking us for help fixing something they say is not broken, and many more say isn't broken. Good business to take care of the bugs and glitches, but for some reason this one.....no, they're gonna be quiet on this one? just business, lol.

Yes I will believe what I want to believe. It doesn't mean I am right. I could very well be wrong.

The only thing that I believe in this overkilled issue is the fact that it can not be proved. The dev's saying it isn't broken is their opinion and a possible business move as well. It's not fact. This isn't like other options in the past that have been broken like the fielding marker. That's a visual aid that you can clearly see. I am not going to let someone change the way I feel about something just because they are a dev. They did tests just like I did tests. I respect them and I am not saying that they are wrong but what I am saying is that I will stand by what I believe in.

I play with it ON. I can play with it OFF or ON. It's as simple as that. Forget about right or wrong etc etc. This isn't entirely directed at you per say Jim but for the people that just want to argue that they are right vs the other people wrong.

As for the bolded part of your post: What glitches do you speak of?? I'm sure they are glitches that can be confirmed by people. There is a reason this has been a hot debate since the game came out. Reason being that you can not prove/disprove it. It's not like people are going to dispute something as clear as day like a glitch where Arod had a different amount of HR's for example. I believe that was a glitch. There are glitches that everybody can agree on that are pretty straight forward and there are "issues" such as this "issue" where nothing can be proved or disproved. You can take all the stats you want and it's just opinion. Just because I feel like the game plays better with it ON doesn't mean that I am right. Just because Swaldo has a higher team .era when leading doesn't mean that he is right and the comeback option is broken. It's all circumstantial.

Yes it is in SCEA's best interest to not admit to a problem this late. A problem that can not be fixed through a patch. It's in their better interest to not admit. Not saying that is the case here but there have been many more serious things in this country that have been covered up. Money talks bottom line. Either way it's just their opinion vs mine and I will not let their opinion change my opinion no way shape or form.

[brunnoce]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Believe what you want to believe, Dave, lol. But you're assuming way too much based on something you continue to infer is broken but then it's just cirumstantial, no "hard" evidence. If it was happening to everyone, you'd have a case, it's not. (Unless someone wants to pull the "blinders" analogy out.) So, I'll choose to believe the devs, you can believe it's just business and continue to say "til you're blue in the face", that it's broken.

These guys are acknowledging glitches in this game, asking for our help to fix them. They are not asking us for help fixing something they say is not broken, and many more say isn't broken. Good business to take care of the bugs and glitches, but for some reason this one.....no, they're gonna be quiet on this one? just business, lol.

the only bug ive seen them comenting on was the RTTS bug...havent seen a coment on the lineup , dh fatigue, roster control or schedule bug...

also, as this is something under the hood im sure we will never know for sure whats going on...so i say play the way u feel better..for me its with ON, ive seen 22-6, 11-0 , 13-2 scores, wich i have not seen before(in over 80 games)...thats proof enough for me to keep ON no matter what anyone tells me...my game experience is waht matters to me.

[davewins]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Believe what you want to believe, Dave, lol. But you're assuming way too much based on something you continue to infer is broken but then it's just cirumstantial, no "hard" evidence.

It's what I believe. There's a good reason why I play with it ON rather then OFF. I played the first 100+ games with it OFF and played two with it ON before I knew I wasn't going back to playing with it OFF.

It's just what I want to do. It's not right and it's not wrong. It's just my way of playing.

It is circumstantial and has no hard evidence and will always be. That's why I continue to say the same thing. It comes down to 2 simple things. ON and OFF. Pick what you want and enjoy. There is no other choice. It seems like people here think that besides ON and OFF there is a 3rd option. That 3rd option is ARGUE. LOL.

[jim416]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

also, as this is something under the hood im sure we will never know for sure whats going on...so i say play the way u feel better..for me its with ON, ive seen 22-6, 11-0 , 13-2 scores, wich i have not seen before(in over 80 games)...thats proof enough for me to keep ON no matter what anyone tells me...my game experience is waht matters to me.

You're right, Brunnoce.

I'd like to see it dropped too, but the constant inference/implication that the devs aren't being honest with us because of "business" decisions based on what is nothing more than speculation and differences of opinion regarding how the game plays needs to be dropped. Don't you think? SCEA deserves a fair shake. These guys have been more than upfront with us and they've even beaten it to death that it's NOT in the game.

[countryboy]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Dave, if you want the thread to end as you said, just PM a mod and ask them to close it. Its your thread, so you can end it whenever you see fit.

[davewins]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Dave, if you want the thread to end as you said, just PM a mod and ask them to close it. Its your thread, so you can end it whenever you see fit.

will do...thanx

[brunnoce]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

You're right, Brunnoce.

I'd like to see it dropped too, but the constant inference/implication that the devs aren't being honest with us because of "business" decisions based on what is nothing more than speculation and differences of opinion regarding how the game plays needs to be dropped. Don't you think? SCEA deserves a fair shake. These guys have been more than upfront with us and they've even beaten it to death that it's NOT in the game.

yeh i c what u mean jim...
and i agree with your post too..
actually im just too tired of all this converstaion, dont evan know why im still posting here, might be out of boredom...heheheh
anyway, i think dave should have this thread closed...it has already served its porpuse, helped a bunch of guy, me included..

[swaldo]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Well we got this far, let's get this thing to 100 pages before we send it off into retirement.

[dave374]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

I am not delusional. I am not insane. I am a credible person.

If I had a dollar for everytime I read that on a message board.

[davewins]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

If I had a dollar for everytime I read that on a message board.

I've been posting from a mental hospital here in Connecticut. They let me play The Show all day long and give me 30 minutes to go online, all of which is spent on this site!

It beats the big room with padded walls and/or a straightjacket!

[phillyfan23]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Hey Swaldo.....

I would love to hear your results on the tests that you and JT30 might be running soon. Please share with us here.....

Thanks...

[Millennium]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Thanks for bumping this for me.

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