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  • chuckm1961
    MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 1429

    #916
    Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

    Another thing to try, as developers have suggested:

    Try wearing a red shirt for a few days while you play. Then switch to a blue shirt. See which way you like better!
    [Insert clever, personally-relevant, or cutting-edge remark, data, link, or picture]

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    • davewins
      MVP
      • Sep 2005
      • 1913

      #917
      Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

      Originally posted by chuckm1961
      Another thing to try, as developers have suggested:

      Try wearing a red shirt for a few days while you play. Then switch to a blue shirt. See which way you like better!
      Great post. Why you are in this thread and contributing in this manor is beyond me, but keep it up. You are doing a great job!

      Hopefully 1961 isn't the year you were born.

      I have a question for you Chuck?? Why can't you just be mature about this and respect our opinion. We are not bashing people's feelings about playing with this option OFF although we disagree how it plays. We are happy for the gamers that are enjoying this game as much as we do whether they play with an option set to OFF while we play with that option set to ON.

      To make an immature comment like that is really just flaming our idea plain and simple. If we were doing the same to you about playing with this option OFF then I can see where it warrants you coming back with a comment like the one you made.

      If you have nothing good to say about playing with it ON then don't say anything and if you got nothing good to say about playing with it OFF then don't say anything. I don't feel the need to bash our way of playing because we are NOT doing that to you.
      Last edited by davewins; 04-06-2009, 08:42 AM.

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      • phillyfan23
        MVP
        • Feb 2005
        • 2319

        #918
        Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

        Originally posted by chuckm1961
        Another thing to try, as developers have suggested:

        Try wearing a red shirt for a few days while you play. Then switch to a blue shirt. See which way you like better!
        hey millenium.....is this what you mean by the immature stuff???

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        • brunnoce
          MVP
          • Mar 2005
          • 4133

          #919
          Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

          Originally posted by chuckm1961
          Another thing to try, as developers have suggested:

          Try wearing a red shirt for a few days while you play. Then switch to a blue shirt. See which way you like better!
          haha!

          funny, not.
          ---------------
          PSN: brunnoce
          Thanx Knight165

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          • pbz06
            Banned
            • Oct 2008
            • 1504

            #920
            Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

            Why was this thread bumped?

            Nothing that hasn't been said can be said anymore...let it die already.

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            • davewins
              MVP
              • Sep 2005
              • 1913

              #921
              Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

              Originally posted by pbz06
              Why was this thread bumped?

              Nothing that hasn't been said can be said anymore...let it die already.
              Where was this thread bumped??

              As far as I'm concerned (judging by this thread and PM box) this thread has saved this game for many people so why you want this to "die" is beyond me.

              The argument needs to die I can agree with that. However this thread gives thoses that might be struggling to enjoy the game with everything set at default an opportunity to possibly better enjoy this game by simply turning an option in the game ON. It's really no different then slider suggestions as far as I am concerned.

              This isn't a thread that this game is flawed and isn't good. This thread isn't bashing anything about this game. This thread is doing the opposite. It's helping people NOT THROW THE GAME AWAY. I was not one of those people but I have heard from plenty in this thread and my pm box that were in fact very close to doing so.

              The arguments should die but the thread should remain up as far as I'm concerned.

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              • BigWilly
                Rookie
                • Mar 2009
                • 454

                #922
                Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                Originally posted by davewins
                Where was this thread bumped??

                As far as I'm concerned (judging by this thread and PM box) this thread has saved this game for many people so why you want this to "die" is beyond me.

                The argument needs to die I can agree with that. However this thread gives thoses that might be struggling to enjoy the game with everything set at default an opportunity to possibly better enjoy this game by simply turning an option in the game ON. It's really no different then slider suggestions as far as I am concerned.

                This isn't a thread that this game is flawed and isn't good. This thread isn't bashing anything about this game. This thread is doing the opposite. It's helping people NOT THROW THE GAME AWAY. I was not one of those people but I have heard from plenty in this thread and my pm box that were in fact very close to doing so.

                The arguments should die but the thread should remain up as far as I'm concerned.
                No offense, Dave, but almost every other post on this thread now is yours. Every post in favor of the AI Option being reversed gets a "great post, that's just how I see it" response from you. While most posts disagreeing with you prompt more questions from you, and a fair share of defensiveness. It's like you're having some kind of paternal association with this topic. If you truly don't have an agenda, and aren't trying to win everyone over to your opinion, you'd let people post in favor or against, without feeling the need to make a comment on every one.

                You say you agree that the argument needs to die (and I think you have a few other times in this thread as well), yet you're the single biggest reason the "argument" continues to rage on. If you'd stop posting, this thread would die.

                For what it's worth, I'm all in favor of the mods putting a sticky on this so people can read the 1000 posts if they have the mind to and feel it might help them. I do think it was a good thread, with a possibility of helping some gamers achieve a better experience (perceived or real). But I'd love to see it locked at this point. There's been nothing new in here for a couple of weeks, and more than enough petty bitching back and forth.
                Last edited by BigWilly; 04-06-2009, 11:11 AM.

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                • davewins
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 1913

                  #923
                  Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                  Originally posted by BigWilly
                  No offense, Dave, but almost every other post on this thread now is yours. Every post in favor of the AI Option being reversed gets a "great post, that's just how I see it" response from you. While most posts disagreeing with you prompt more questions from you, and a fair share of defensiveness. It's like you're having some kind of paternal association with this topic. If you truly don't have an agenda, and aren't trying to win everyone over to your opinion, you'd let people post in favor or against, without feeling the need to make a comment on every one.

                  You say you agree that the argument needs to die (and I think you have a few other times in this thread as well), yet you're the single biggest reason the "argument" continues to rage on. If you'd stop posting, this thread would die.

                  For what it's worth, I'm all in favor of the mods putting a sticky on this so people can read the 1000 posts if they have the mind to and feel it might help them. I do think it was a good thread, with a possibility of helping some gamers achieve a better experience (perceived or real). But I'd love to see it locked at this point. There's been nothing new in here for a couple of weeks, and more than enough petty bitching back and forth.
                  Maybe I shouldn't say great post. However I do agree exactly with those people. Agreeing and disagreeing is going to be a part of this thread regardless. Maybe I shouldn't use the word great post because that might imply that I am right and everybody is wrong. Which is not how I intend to come across.

                  What I don't understand is when people come in here and bash this. All it is is an option. Forget about everything else that goes along with it. If people can play with this OFF and enjoy then I don't understand the need to want to kill the thread while others can play with it ON and enjoy. If I didn't think that this thread could truly help other people then I wouldn't care if it died.

                  I may look selfish by posting in here a lot but I am really not. Not saying that you called me that either. I am just saying that by keeping this thread alive it can help people because it already has in it's 90+ pages and in my pm box. I don't care that I made the thread or not. Anybody in here could of and probably has tried this before me. All I am saying is very simply this thread can help people with the game, so why it's in jeopardy of being closed boggles my mind. Why so many people even remain opening this thread up boggles my mind.

                  If I disagreed with this and the game played fine for me with it set to OFF I wouldn't go out of my way to come in here and complain about why this thread is still on the main page. I would welcome the fact that the community is trying to help others with the game. People look at this too much like it's a debate and it has been a debate. However, like I said, it also has been a game saver for some people on here. If it's not hurting those that play with it OFF then I don't see the big deal.

                  I am going to defend this thread when people come in and ask for it to die already. I just do not understand the intentions for that. I do not understand the intentions for chuck to try to stir things up with his comment. I was not ever doing that in this thread or any other thread on this forum. If I don't agree with a thread I simply stay out of it. What good does it do to come in here and state the fact that you would like to see this thread die??

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                  • davewins
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1913

                    #924
                    Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                    Originally posted by BigWilly
                    No offense, Dave, but almost every other post on this thread now is yours. Every post in favor of the AI Option being reversed gets a "great post, that's just how I see it" response from you. While most posts disagreeing with you prompt more questions from you, and a fair share of defensiveness. It's like you're having some kind of paternal association with this topic. If you truly don't have an agenda, and aren't trying to win everyone over to your opinion, you'd let people post in favor or against, without feeling the need to make a comment on every one.

                    You say you agree that the argument needs to die (and I think you have a few other times in this thread as well), yet you're the single biggest reason the "argument" continues to rage on. If you'd stop posting, this thread would die.

                    For what it's worth, I'm all in favor of the mods putting a sticky on this so people can read the 1000 posts if they have the mind to and feel it might help them. I do think it was a good thread, with a possibility of helping some gamers achieve a better experience (perceived or real). But I'd love to see it locked at this point. There's been nothing new in here for a couple of weeks, and more than enough petty bitching back and forth.
                    I haven't even discussed the comeback ai being reversed or not recently to be honest. In the beginning of this thread I have but then I realized (and I am man enough to admit it) that I was being immature as well and not honoring other's opinions and views on this. My honest opinion on the whole thing FYI is I don't know if it's reversed/broken all I know is how the game plays for me with it ON compared to OFF. Something that others might never have even bothered to try.

                    The only thing I debate is the fact that this simply can not be proved/disproved because it is way too vague. Like I said a million times it is an under the hood issue that just can not be proved. It is not an option that is a visual aid that you can clearly see when you turn it on and clearly see that it goes off when it's turned off.

                    That is not arguing about me being right and others being wrong. That is arguing that NOBODY is right OR wrong in this matter. And to further that point I stress that we don't need to argue if it's there or not, if it's reversed or if it's broken but better yet just leave it as an option. Just like a slider. A different way to play sort of speak and forget about all the nonsense behind it.

                    As for your last paragraph I completley agree and think that makes perfect sense. I would be all for that. The bickering would stop and people would still be able to read this thread for what it's worth and try playing with it ON if they wanted to give it a shot.

                    Hey Bigwilly, if you think I only agree with people that are playing with it ON and I am defensive against people that disagree with my views then I suggest you look at post #891 in this thread.
                    Last edited by davewins; 04-06-2009, 11:55 AM.

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                    • slthree
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 2529

                      #925
                      Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                      Originally posted by chuckm1961
                      Another thing to try, as developers have suggested:

                      Try wearing a red shirt for a few days while you play. Then switch to a blue shirt. See which way you like better!
                      You must be one unhappy dude, revealed by your need to be a jerk.

                      Posts like this serve one purpose only.

                      Every time I see an ignorant post like yours, it makes me feel more pity for the mods here. No wonder they sometimes get a little crabby.

                      Do the mods and the rest of the mature people here a favor... go find a different forum group, one more suited to your tastes, ... or should I say... lack of

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                      • phillyfan23
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 2319

                        #926
                        Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                        Originally posted by slthree
                        You must be one unhappy dude, revealed by your need to be a jerk.

                        Posts like this serve one purpose only.

                        Every time I see an ignorant post like yours, it makes me feel more pity for the mods here. No wonder they sometimes get a little crabby.

                        Do the mods and the rest of the mature people here a favor... go find a different forum group, one more suited to your tastes, ... or should I say... lack of

                        stop making sense man!

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                        • steez3
                          Pro
                          • May 2007
                          • 614

                          #927
                          Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                          I realize some people want this thread to die and that everything that can be said has been said but this game, this GREAT overall game is crazy....I cant decide ON or OFF. Just played a game with it OFF in my restarted season, Yanks at Baltimore and I rip up Rich Hill in the first and score 3 runs, shut down the O's with burnett in the bottom half...add 2 more runs in the 2nd so im up 5 nothing now....Shut down the O's once again in the 2nd...then 3 and 4 innings nothing happens, they get runners to 2nd a few times but thats as far as they get.....Burnett is pitching amazing at this point, so after my at bat in the 5th, which my hitters got completely cold eventho Im still getting either perfect or slightly early contact on the same exact pitches I was hammering in the firt 2 innings. so bottom of the 5th....2 quick outs on grounders to jeter and ransom..........then all of a sudden Burnett loses all control and starts leaving pitches right over the plate so ofcourse the O's turn into the greatest team in the bigs and score 4 runs on two 2 run homers so now its 5-4, start warming up my bullpen....I do nothing in the top of the 6th....bottom of the 6th starts and burnett has his control back and I start painting corners with ease for the first 2 outs....then a base hit, then IZTURIS hits a 405 foot blast to left on a 2-2 changeup low and away..so that makes it 6-5 baltimore.......nothing happens in the 7th so move ahead to the 8th, I all of a sudden get my bats back and start getting a few singles then a double in the gap by Cano that plates both the runners and now am up 7-6...I immediately start warming up Rivera for a 6 out save because I really want this game and dont trust Marte to hold onto a one run lead.....bottom of the 8th I get the first 2 outs very easy with a grounder back to Mariano and a foul popout behind the plate...then Scott gets a bloop single on a 7 pitch battle, then ofcourse Huff takes a low cut fastball that was well below the strike zone and golf swings it out of the park to deep center...tied game!

                          I eventually end up winning in 14 innings only becuase Brett Gardner makes a amazing diving grab robbing them of a 2 out double that woulda cleared the bases.......I know people are gonna say that I was pitching wrong and try to blame the user but I honestly feel like I couldnt do anything to stop these 2 out rallies that the AI was putting together, I even bring in Riviera early knowing that its coming but arguably the best closer ever cant get 3 outs against a mediocre O's team? Sorry for the long post but I just needed to vent!

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                          • jim416
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 10606

                            #928
                            Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                            I am going to defend this thread when people come in and ask for it to die already. I just do not understand the intentions for that.
                            Well, I think I understand him. This thread has some long, long, long posts that have nothing really to do with what the fix does and I'm absolutely sure people aren't going to read through all this stuff as a lot of it isn't even related to the problem. Sticky it, close it and let the people read through 80 pages rather than 180?

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                            • slthree
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 2529

                              #929
                              Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                              Originally posted by jim416
                              Well, I think I understand him. This thread has some long, long, long posts that have nothing really to do with what the fix does and I'm absolutely sure people aren't going to read through all this stuff as a lot of it isn't even related to the problem. Sticky it, close it and let the people read through 80 pages rather than 180?
                              I second this. Well said, Jim.

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                              • steelcurtain311
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 2087

                                #930
                                Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                                SCEA honestly needs to do some sort of tweaking to the pitching system, that is the problem here. The AI comes back because the user's pitchers completely DIE by the time they throw like 70-80 pitches, and regardless of how you time the meter and place the ball, it still hangs them out over the middle of the plate.

                                You can somewhat fix this by screwing with the sliders, but nothing fixes it completely. The "Glitch" lies in the pitching and the fielding "errors", it isn't that the AI's offense steps it up to ridiculous standards. I've had times where they might get a few on base, but I'll get them to ground into what should be a DP and end the inning, only the ball magically goes through my defender.

                                This is the stuff that can ruin the game for you at times.

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