so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

[phillyfan23]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Because you can take my exact post and switch a couple words and the exact same thing applies to the "other side", lol.

Just a very ironic post, that is all

no not really PBZ...that was a cop out of a response and you know it. Don't try to make it like it's one group vs the other....I have an issue with YOUR post, not with people who disagree with the OP.

A lot of people here have disagreed with the OP but they don't have an agenda like you to prove the op wrong or mistaken over and over again.

I have no problems with people that don't see things the same way, but you have this holier than thou attitude with the words definite. That's total BS , definite....you can't prove it so don't ever say that.

pot kettle black give me a break man, why don't you answer my question instead of pulling the classic dodge after getting called out on your post.

[pbz06]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

no not really PBZ...that was a cop out of a response and you know it. Don't try to make it like it's one group vs the other....I have an issue with YOUR post, not with people who disagree with the OP.

A lot of people here have disagreed with the OP but they don't have an agenda like you to prove the op wrong or mistaken over and over again.

I have no problems with people that don't see things the same way, but you have this holier than thou attitude with the words definite. That's total BS , definite....you can't prove it so don't ever say that.

pot kettle black give me a break man, why don't you answer my question instead of pulling the classic dodge after getting called out on your post.

lawlz

gold post right there

[phillyfan23]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

lawlz

gold post right there

hehe...no backbone

[pbz06]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

hehe...no backbone

teehee

you know the Blob from Monsters vs. Aliens? Yea that's me

great post

[ARMORALLL]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

wow this thread is pretty epic now! can we all agree that by turning AI comback to ON that its actually turning it OFF? did one of the sony guys conferm this?

[bcruise]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

wow this thread is pretty epic now! can we all agree that by turning AI comback to ON that its actually turning it OFF?

No (and we probably never will, seeing as opinions are the very nature of this whole thread)

did one of the sony guys conferm this?

They confirmed the opposite - that it is working as intended (on means on, off means off). Not just Russell, but Brian Ma as well.

[buttsakk]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Great post man. This is really what I mean by how nobody can prove or disprove this and the same goes for me. I can't prove that playing with it ON plays better because it only does for me.

That's why this whole thing is so puzzling and that's why this thread is 80+ pages long. Because there is no definite answer. There are plenty of opinions though.

Thanks Dave!

You know you're the reason I did turn this on.

And look what you started, 90+ pages worth of allegations going back and forth

Just goes to show you, everyone has a different experience. Even for videogames.

[davewins]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Thanks Dave!

You know you're the reason I did turn this on.

And look what you started, 90+ pages worth of allegations going back and forth

Just goes to show you, everyone has a different experience. Even for videogames.

lol you got that right for sure man.

[Millennium]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

This thread has one last chance to become mature. The next time it's getting locked.

[brunnoce]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

imho it has already served its purpose...
from now on it will be just a lot of yadda yadda and people getting over each other.
the only reason i see in keeping this open is to avoid other "look a like" threads from poping up every day

[davewins]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

This thread has one last chance to become mature. The next time it's getting locked.

Where did it get immature??

[davewins]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

imho it has already served its purpose...
from now on it will be just a lot of yadda yadda and people getting over each other.
the only reason i see in keeping this open is to avoid other "look a like" threads from poping up every day

i agree 100%

[tribefanisu2003]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

It is funny to come back every day, just to see if there were any more posts in this thread, and see about 5 pages' worth!

Count me in with Dave, I believe this game plays differently with comeback on. I have played around 100 games and about 30 with the comeback on and the occurrence of bullpen blowups have decreased significantly. It is also easier to strikeout the CPU, and the amount of close games have also decreased. It surprises me how many people see a different result with this feature, its almost like there are two different disks??

I completely agree here. Now, in NO WAY am I saying "Yes, the option is reversed, the devs are lying, etc...". However, what I will say is I 100% see a difference in HOW THE GAME PLAYS from beginning to end, with the option turned on. In back to back games, I beat the Angels 10-2 in game 1, then won 12-11 in 10 innings in game 2. In that second game, I was up 4 runs going in to the bottom of the 9th. Had Rafael Soriano in to close (needed to give Wood a rest). Needless to say, a solo shot by Hunter (who always kills me, just like he always kills the Tribe in real life!) and a 3 run shot by Mike Jacobs later, it's tied at 11. So, there's the evidence that with it on, the computer does indeed receive some boosts.

HOWEVER, I just feel like with the option ON, for whatever reason, it just feels like it plays more realistically. I believe they DO get boosts (as evidenced above), but it also seems that they just watch some closer pitches more than before I got the lead, and the balls they do hit (even the outs) are much harder hit, etc. However, it does seem easier to make the right pitch and stop the rallies before they get out of hand, with the option turned ON. That's just what I BELIEVE, nothing more. And if you want some sort of substantial reason for this, here it is: In 84 games, mostly on vet, with it OFF, I was 4 games above .500. In 24 games, on vet, with it ON, I'm 20-4. I'm sorry, I just can't see that my play style would have gotten THAT much better THAT quickly. I simply don't think it's coincidental that since turning it on, I've fared SO much better than before.

Again, not saying it's reversed or anything, as I have seen them comeback like before with the option ON. All I'm saying, is I feel like it's playing better, from inning 1 to inning 9, with the option ON.

[davewins]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

It is funny to come back every day, just to see if there were any more posts in this thread, and see about 5 pages' worth!



I completely agree here. Now, in NO WAY am I saying "Yes, the option is reversed, the devs are lying, etc...". However, what I will say is I 100% see a difference in HOW THE GAME PLAYS from beginning to end, with the option turned on. In back to back games, I beat the Angels 10-2 in game 1, then won 12-11 in 10 innings in game 2. In that second game, I was up 4 runs going in to the bottom of the 9th. Had Rafael Soriano in to close (needed to give Wood a rest). Needless to say, a solo shot by Hunter (who always kills me, just like he always kills the Tribe in real life!) and a 3 run shot by Mike Jacobs later, it's tied at 11. So, there's the evidence that with it on, the computer does indeed receive some boosts.

HOWEVER, I just feel like with the option ON, for whatever reason, it just feels like it plays more realistically. I believe they DO get boosts (as evidenced above), but it also seems that they just watch some closer pitches more than before I got the lead, and the balls they do hit (even the outs) are much harder hit, etc. However, it does seem easier to make the right pitch and stop the rallies before they get out of hand, with the option turned ON. That's just what I BELIEVE, nothing more. And if you want some sort of substantial reason for this, here it is: In 84 games, mostly on vet, with it OFF, I was 4 games above .500. In 24 games, on vet, with it ON, I'm 20-4. I'm sorry, I just can't see that my play style would have gotten THAT much better THAT quickly. I simply don't think it's coincidental that since turning it on, I've fared SO much better than before.

Again, not saying it's reversed or anything, as I have seen them comeback like before with the option ON. All I'm saying, is I feel like it's playing better, from inning 1 to inning 9, with the option ON.

I pretty much see things exactly the same as you. Of course it's just our opinion and certainly not facts or evidence by any means. It's just too hard to prove if the CPU is coming back becasue of slight attribute bonuses or because of bad pitching. The only thing that I see and feel for sure is how the CPU behaves at the plate. They do take more pitches and also swing at more pitches out of the zone. This again is by no means a fact but it's just my personal opinion on exactly what I see.

I have no idea if it's reversed or not and will never know that because there is no evidence here. Like I said before with other options that have been broken there were visual aids such as the field marker option. That's seen with the naked eye. It's either on or off. With this, it's a matter of opinion if the CPU is coming back legitimately or not. This isn't something we can just open our eyes and see right away like visual aid options being on or off.

With that said the only thing we can remain to do is play with the options that are in the game either OFF or ON.

[phillyfan23]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

I pretty much see things exactly the same as you. Of course it's just our opinion and certainly not facts or evidence by any means. It's just too hard to prove if the CPU is coming back becasue of slight attribute bonuses or because of bad pitching. The only thing that I see and feel for sure is how the CPU behaves at the plate. They do take more pitches and also swing at more pitches out of the zone. This again is by no means a fact but it's just my personal opinion on exactly what I see.

I have no idea if it's reversed or not and will never know that because there is no evidence here. Like I said before with other options that have been broken there were visual aids such as the field marker option. That's seen with the naked eye. It's either on or off. With this, it's a matter of opinion if the CPU is coming back legitimately or not. This isn't something we can just open our eyes and see right away like visual aid options being on or off.

With that said the only thing we can remain to do is play with the options that are in the game either OFF or ON.

good post dave...

that's just it...people will just need to pick which they prefer. Nothing less , nothing more. You like it OFF...go ahead and enjoy....u like it ON? go ahead and do the same thing.