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  • davewins
    MVP
    • Sep 2005
    • 1913

    #946
    Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

    yeah I'm not so convinced it's reversed but my OPINION is more based on that it's broken. I have seen comebacks with it turned ON that did seem a little strange but who really knows for sure. However I went back to playing with it OFF just for the hell of it and WOW what a difference. It was ridiculous.

    Just like Brunno I have played with it OFF as well. In fact for the first 100 or so games I played with it OFF by default and never won or lost by more then 4 runs. There should be a blowout somewhere in those 100 games played but not one. My first 2 games with it ON I won by more then 4.

    I don't know what's really going on and I probably never will. All I do know is that there are two options to play with and it's not as complicated as this thread ended up being. What's so hard about playing with it ON vs OFF. We have no other choice if we want to deal with this "comeback issue".

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    • jim416
      Banned
      • Feb 2003
      • 10606

      #947
      Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

      yeah I'm not so convinced it's reversed but my OPINION is more based on that it's broken. I have seen comebacks with it turned ON that did seem a little strange but who really knows for sure. However I went back to playing with it OFF just for the hell of it and WOW what a difference. It was ridiculous.
      For you, ridiculous, for those who have played with it OFF, nothing wrong with the game. You talk of comebacks like they shouldn't happen if you said it was "strange" you saw them with it turned ON. Your opinion that it's broken, the devs say it's not, and many of us here say it's not.

      Somebody shoot this discussion already, lol.
      Last edited by jim416; 04-15-2009, 10:17 AM.

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      • bfindeisen
        Pro
        • Mar 2008
        • 793

        #948
        Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

        The CPU Comeback feature works exactly as it should. It is my opinion that this is fact . This thread is nothing more than a conspiracy theory based on a placebo effect. Someone please lock this up already!

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        • pbz06
          Banned
          • Oct 2008
          • 1504

          #949
          Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

          Originally posted by davewins
          yeah I'm not so convinced it's reversed but my OPINION is more based on that it's broken. I have seen comebacks with it turned ON that did seem a little strange but who really knows for sure. However I went back to playing with it OFF just for the hell of it and WOW what a difference. It was ridiculous.

          Just like Brunno I have played with it OFF as well. In fact for the first 100 or so games I played with it OFF by default and never won or lost by more then 4 runs. There should be a blowout somewhere in those 100 games played but not one. My first 2 games with it ON I won by more then 4.

          I don't know what's really going on and I probably never will. All I do know is that there are two options to play with and it's not as complicated as this thread ended up being. What's so hard about playing with it ON vs OFF. We have no other choice if we want to deal with this "comeback issue".
          Well I, along with many others, have seen blowouts by the CPU....I just lost 12-3 last night, and I also have a couple 10-4 type wins under my belt. Yea, most of my games are within 4 runs, but that's the case in real life too. Check the run differential stats for the MLB.

          I think people are looking for the "comeback". As soon as they get a lead, they either change their approach just waiting for it, and as soon as the CPU scores it's "OMG!!! COMEBACK!!!! THIS IS BULLSH!T!!!", know what I mean? I'm not attacking you or trying to sound like a jerk but that's what I think is happening. When you win nobody crys foul, but as soon as you (not you specifically, just people in general) think something is up. I've had several games where I won 3-1, or 4-2, or 5-1 and didn't detect a single ounce of "comeback". I've also blown some leads too...and you know what, it does suck when it happens and I feel like crap and sometimes disgusted....but I do that when it happens in real life when I follow my team too

          I can give real life examples from every day. Last night the Angels lost 3-2 in extra innings when everything went right for Seattle....leadoff double, sacrifice bunt and BAM an error that cost them the game. Just like that it was all over. Felt cheap, right? Or the game before when they played Boston. Boston scored 2, then the ANgels came right back and scored 3. Then boston scored, and then the Angels scored again before holding off on a dangerous rally in the 9th. Comeback glitch again right? You can look at EVERY boxscore of every game every day in the MLB and you will see numerous situations where one team scores or the leads change...and most games are within 4 runs too.
          Last edited by pbz06; 04-15-2009, 10:49 AM.

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          • brunnoce
            MVP
            • Mar 2005
            • 4133

            #950
            Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

            lock it up
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            Thanx Knight165

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            • pbz06
              Banned
              • Oct 2008
              • 1504

              #951
              Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

              Originally posted by brunnoce
              lock it up

              haha....i'm getting dizzy from all the circles we're doing

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              • brunnoce
                MVP
                • Mar 2005
                • 4133

                #952
                Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                yeh im tired of this too
                play however u like and thats it..enjoy the game
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                PSN: brunnoce
                Thanx Knight165

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                • swaldo
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 1268

                  #953
                  Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                  Originally posted by pbz06
                  Comeback glitch again right? You can look at EVERY boxscore of every game every day in the MLB and you will see numerous situations where one team scores or the leads change...and most games are within 4 runs too.
                  True and I'm glad there are comebacks and fluctuations. However, in the long term MLB pitchers ERA will be around 4.33 when pitching with a lead with a .416 opponent slugging percentage. In this game you're ERA will be at least 2 runs higher and the slugging percentage .600+.

                  That is the difference here. But those are just my numbers, if anyone can do better pitching with a lead God bless.

                  I just wanted to be the last guy to post in here before the lock.

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                  • davewins
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1913

                    #954
                    Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                    Originally posted by pbz06
                    Well I, along with many others, have seen blowouts by the CPU....I just lost 12-3 last night, and I also have a couple 10-4 type wins under my belt. Yea, most of my games are within 4 runs, but that's the case in real life too. Check the run differential stats for the MLB.

                    I think people are looking for the "comeback". As soon as they get a lead, they either change their approach just waiting for it, and as soon as the CPU scores it's "OMG!!! COMEBACK!!!! THIS IS BULLSH!T!!!", know what I mean? I'm not attacking you or trying to sound like a jerk but that's what I think is happening. When you win nobody crys foul, but as soon as you (not you specifically, just people in general) think something is up. I've had several games where I won 3-1, or 4-2, or 5-1 and didn't detect a single ounce of "comeback". I've also blown some leads too...and you know what, it does suck when it happens and I feel like crap and sometimes disgusted....but I do that when it happens in real life when I follow my team too

                    I can give real life examples from every day. Last night the Angels lost 3-2 in extra innings when everything went right for Seattle....leadoff double, sacrifice bunt and BAM an error that cost them the game. Just like that it was all over. Felt cheap, right? Or the game before when they played Boston. Boston scored 2, then the ANgels came right back and scored 3. Then boston scored, and then the Angels scored again before holding off on a dangerous rally in the 9th. Comeback glitch again right? You can look at EVERY boxscore of every game every day in the MLB and you will see numerous situations where one team scores or the leads change...and most games are within 4 runs too.
                    I never had a problem with the cpu coming back and losing games. I had a problem with ME winning games that I felt I shouldn't have won. Everything just felt like it was a close game no matter what. This is why I tryed playing with it ON just to see how much different it would play. I was expecting it to be even that much more obvious but it wasn't in MY findings. It was in fact the opposite and games felt much different.

                    I will say this until I am blue in the face. You can not prove or disprove anything about this. It's all circumstantial. There is no proof of it being broken/reversed or working just fine. The only thing you can do is play with it either ON or OFF. Why the debate of it's broken vs not broken is really stale by now. If you think it plays fine with it OFF then that's your right, same goes for those that play with it ON. There is no wrong way to play. Let's just seriously forget about being right or wrong on this topic and just use it for the option that it is.

                    I feel just as sure about it being broken as others feel about it not being broken. It's just a matter of opinion and mine is no better then any of yours.

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                    • jim416
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 10606

                      #955
                      Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                      I will say this until I am blue in the face. You can not prove or disprove anything about this. It's all circumstantial. There is no proof of it being broken/reversed or working just fine.
                      Well, I'll end my part in this by saying if the developers of this game refute what you've been saying, that's proof. If you want to say the developers don't know what they're talking about til your blue in the face fine. That's your inference after being told different.

                      If you want to say it's up to the individual to determine what's better for them to play on, okay, but to say imply the developers are wrong is wrong.
                      My opinion, later........

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                      • davewins
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 1913

                        #956
                        Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                        Originally posted by jim416
                        Well, I'll end my part in this by saying if the developers of this game refute what you've been saying, that's proof. If you want to say the developers don't know what they're talking about til your blue in the face fine. That's your inference after being told different.

                        If you want to say it's up to the individual to determine what's better for them to play on, okay, but to say imply the developers are wrong is wrong.
                        My opinion, later........
                        It's called business Jim. I wouldn't be surprised if they knew this was a glitch and it was in their best interest to not say anything.

                        I am not calling them out and saying that's what they did but it's a possibility. It's business and I would completley understand where they are coming from. I just think that they THINK that it's not broken/reversed. Just like we THINK what we want to THINK. There is no proof. Enjoying the game with it ON better then OFF is not proof that it's reversed just as playing with it OFF rather then ON isn't proof. It's all circumstantial there is no hard evidence.

                        In the end, it's their opinion vs ours. That's what it comes down to. I have a right to believe what I want to believe. I don't need them to tell me that it's not broken when they can't come up with hard evidence. They are just going by their experiments. 100+ games played with it OFF vs about 65+ games playing with it ON is enough "experiment" for me to personally have my opinion as well.
                        Last edited by davewins; 04-15-2009, 01:42 PM.

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52838

                          #957
                          Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                          [singing]This is the thread that doesn't end.
                          Yes it goes on and on my friend.
                          Some people started posting in it, not knowing what is was,
                          now they'll continue to post in here forever just because...

                          This is the thread that doesn't end.
                          Yes it goes on and on my friend.
                          Some people started posting in it, not knowing what is was,
                          now they'll continue to post in here forever just because...

                          This is the thread that doesn't end.
                          Yes it goes on and on my friend.
                          Some people started posting in it, not knowing what is was,
                          now they'll continue to post in here forever just because...

                          This is the thread that doesn't end.
                          Yes it goes on and on my friend.
                          Some people started posting in it, not knowing what is was,
                          now they'll continue to post in here forever just because...
                          [/singing]

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                          • davewins
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 1913

                            #958
                            Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                            Originally posted by countryboy
                            [singing]This is the thread that doesn't end.
                            Yes it goes on and on my friend.
                            Some people started posting in it, not knowing what is was,
                            now they'll continue to post in here forever just because...

                            This is the thread that doesn't end.
                            Yes it goes on and on my friend.
                            Some people started posting in it, not knowing what is was,
                            now they'll continue to post in here forever just because...

                            This is the thread that doesn't end.
                            Yes it goes on and on my friend.
                            Some people started posting in it, not knowing what is was,
                            now they'll continue to post in here forever just because...

                            This is the thread that doesn't end.
                            Yes it goes on and on my friend.
                            Some people started posting in it, not knowing what is was,
                            now they'll continue to post in here forever just because...[/singing]

                            Amen to that countryboy. I wish this could just end once and for all.

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                            • brunnoce
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 4133

                              #959
                              Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                              Originally posted by jim416
                              Well, I'll end my part in this by saying if the developers of this game refute what you've been saying, that's proof. If you want to say the developers don't know what they're talking about til your blue in the face fine. That's your inference after being told different.

                              If you want to say it's up to the individual to determine what's better for them to play on, okay, but to say imply the developers are wrong is wrong.
                              My opinion, later........
                              dont know if its the case here, but it could as well be
                              business...
                              i know that for a fact...been doing some work for several soccer games i can say for sure that this kind of thing happens a lot.
                              ---------------
                              PSN: brunnoce
                              Thanx Knight165

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                              • Nyrican127
                                Let's Go Mets!!!
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 572

                                #960
                                Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                                i dont know what all the fuss is about
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