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  • jd369
    Banned
    • Sep 2008
    • 1341

    #91
    Re: I spent a lot of time with The Show 11 and Russell at CES, impressions inside.

    Originally posted by FreezeTime
    Such a minor thing to be nitpicking at don't you think jd?

    Thanks again Russell for taking the time to show me all the new features in the game. I think I've been pretty accurate so far in answering everyone's questions.
    It doesnt really matter if its major or minor to you or not. some peoples major is another person minor and vice versa. I wouldnt come on here talking crap to you for something you wanted to know about if I thought it was a minor thing. everyone wants what they want.

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    • aces01
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      • Feb 2010
      • 209

      #92
      Re: I spent a lot of time with The Show 11 and Russell at CES, impressions inside.

      I can see where JD is coming from, it's nothing that would stop me from buying the game, but it would just add to the realism like all of the other things they add. Can't bash the guy for asking. One thing I'd like to see in the future regarding this issue is just being able to choose what web for a glove you want, not every infielder uses a closed web like it is now in the game, and not every outfielder has an "I" web or something similar.

      With all of the new additions, it's not something that is a groundbreaking issue. These guys do a great job year in and year out, it's going to be a long wait. Thanks to everyone giving impressions as well.

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      • AtlBraves09
        Rookie
        • Dec 2010
        • 127

        #93
        Re: I spent a lot of time with The Show 11 and Russell at CES, impressions inside.

        Originally posted by jd369
        It doesnt really matter if its major or minor to you or not. some peoples major is another person minor and vice versa. I wouldnt come on here talking crap to you for something you wanted to know about if I thought it was a minor thing. everyone wants what they want.
        - In those games, Nike, Reebok, and Under Armour Make the uniforms as well. They are able to knock out equipment and uni's with one deal. With Baseball, Majestic makes the unis, Rawlings makes the gloves and bats. Most Pro's use the Rawlings line of gloves and Bats. they have the Majestic and Rawlings logos in the game. Other names would get just too expensive. And I may be wrong, but I don't think you can re-create something in the game that you don't have a license for. For instance, I don't think they can model a cleat or glove after nike but put another name on it calling it generic. There is a lot of copy right issues that go into things like this. Just my thoughts on the issue

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        • ripwalk
          Pro
          • May 2009
          • 531

          #94
          Re: I spent a lot of time with The Show 11 and Russell at CES, impressions inside.

          A 20 per cent rating hit for playing in your secondary position seems pretty high, especially for a good utility infielder who is equally proficient at multiple positions - doesn't it?

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          • jd369
            Banned
            • Sep 2008
            • 1341

            #95
            Re: I spent a lot of time with The Show 11 and Russell at CES, impressions inside.

            Originally posted by AtlBraves09
            - In those games, Nike, Reebok, and Under Armour Make the uniforms as well. They are able to knock out equipment and uni's with one deal. With Baseball, Majestic makes the unis, Rawlings makes the gloves and bats. Most Pro's use the Rawlings line of gloves and Bats. they have the Majestic and Rawlings logos in the game. Other names would get just too expensive. And I may be wrong, but I don't think you can re-create something in the game that you don't have a license for. For instance, I don't think they can model a cleat or glove after nike but put another name on it calling it generic. There is a lot of copy right issues that go into things like this. Just my thoughts on the issue
            The rawlings logo is not in the game its replaced with "the show" on somethings and an "S" on others. And you can absolutely re-create a likeness as long as you dont use the copyrighted logo. It is done in television all the time, the most prominent one is a coke can that says "cola" instead of "coke", same red can, same writing and everything. coke can only copyright the name brand coke, not a red can and certainly not a font. Also "most pros" is a pretty general term, if you took inventory of any teams equipment it would be a safe bet that rawlings would not be the majority.

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            • aces01
              Banned
              • Feb 2010
              • 209

              #96
              Re: I spent a lot of time with The Show 11 and Russell at CES, impressions inside.

              Originally posted by AtlBraves09
              - In those games, Nike, Reebok, and Under Armour Make the uniforms as well. They are able to knock out equipment and uni's with one deal. With Baseball, Majestic makes the unis, Rawlings makes the gloves and bats. Most Pro's use the Rawlings line of gloves and Bats. they have the Majestic and Rawlings logos in the game. Other names would get just too expensive. And I may be wrong, but I don't think you can re-create something in the game that you don't have a license for. For instance, I don't think they can model a cleat or glove after nike but put another name on it calling it generic. There is a lot of copy right issues that go into things like this. Just my thoughts on the issue
              I see what you mean here. I agree that it would get expensive getting all of those licenses, but other than majestic making the jerseys, baseball is pretty diverse in its other equipment. Adidas, Nike, Mizuno, Wilson, Louisville Slugger (TPX), Franklin, and even Spalding all make the other things you see such as cleats, gloves, batting gloves, etc.

              I have no problem with them just getting a license from Rawlings because getting all of those would be ridiculous. Rawlings does make almost every style of glove you can imagine though so they can replicate everything imaginable as far as gloves go. The only thing I could see them improving is just choosing what type of web you want for each player. Like I said before, if you have every type of web, the only difference between that and the MLB, is that the logo would always be Rawlings in the Show.

              As far as cleats and batting gloves go, I'm not too sure what they could do. They could probably make different styles of cleats (low tops, mid, and high tops), but I'm not sure how close they can get to resembling actual cleats out there. Batting gloves to me is just a color issue. Sure there are different styles out there, but I'm ok with just matching the actual colors worn in real life.

              Just something to look into for the future, it is minor, but so is adding a grounds crew after the third inning. That's just what separates this game from others.

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              • AtlBraves09
                Rookie
                • Dec 2010
                • 127

                #97
                Re: I spent a lot of time with The Show 11 and Russell at CES, impressions inside.

                Originally posted by jd369
                The rawlings logo is not in the game its replaced with "the show" on somethings and an "S" on others. And you can absolutely re-create a likeness as long as you dont use the copyrighted logo. It is done in television all the time, the most prominent one is a coke can that says "cola" instead of "coke", same red can, same writing and everything. coke can only copyright the name brand coke, not a red can and certainly not a font. Also "most pros" is a pretty general term, if you took inventory of any teams equipment it would be a safe bet that rawlings would not be the majority.
                - Well, judging by the argumenative nature of your replies, I can understand why people have avoided answering your question... Good luck

                - I have also heard from multiple manufacturers that the Rawlings Pro-Preferred series and the Heart of the hide series are among the two most purchased baseball gloves by professional baseball players.

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                • aces01
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 209

                  #98
                  Re: I spent a lot of time with The Show 11 and Russell at CES, impressions inside.

                  Yea you're definitely right, Rawlings is up there in sales for Major League gloves, I just don't think they dominate it. There are a decent amount of pitchers that use Nike (Halladay, C.C, Rivera), and a lot of infielders and outfielders like the A2000 series made from Wilson.

                  Sure, it would be cool to get all of that into a video game, but it's not a deal breaker. It's all up to the player's preference, there's no way of getting all of it into a video game. I'm happy with all of the other great things they have added.

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                  • jd369
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1341

                    #99
                    Re: I spent a lot of time with The Show 11 and Russell at CES, impressions inside.

                    Originally posted by AtlBraves09
                    - Well, judging by the argumenative nature of your replies, I can understand why people have avoided answering your question... Good luck

                    - I have also heard from multiple manufacturers that the Rawlings Pro-Preferred series and the Heart of the hide series are among the two most purchased baseball gloves by professional baseball players.

                    It's not argumentative when it is the truth. You are trying to tell me something is fact when it is not. Rawlings does sell a ton of baseball gloves I am sure but we are not talking just baseball gloves, we are talking eqiupment as a whole. the question is why are we not getting a variety, which should be a pretty easy thing to answer. GO BRAVES LOL

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                    • AtlBraves09
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 127

                      #100
                      Re: I spent a lot of time with The Show 11 and Russell at CES, impressions inside.

                      Originally posted by jd369
                      It's not argumentative when it is the truth. You are trying to tell me something is fact when it is not. Rawlings does sell a ton of baseball gloves I am sure but we are not talking just baseball gloves, we are talking eqiupment as a whole. the question is why are we not getting a variety, which should be a pretty easy thing to answer. GO BRAVES LOL
                      - haha, Absolutely! Go Braves!

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                      • JayD
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 5457

                        #101
                        Re: I spent a lot of time with The Show 11 and Russell at CES, impressions inside.

                        Freeze, I saw that you use the Brewers so my question is are stadiums with retractable roofs always open during franchise or are they closed when the weather is cold, hot, or raining?

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                        • kt-od
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 2354

                          #102
                          Re: I spent a lot of time with The Show 11 and Russell at CES, impressions inside.

                          Originally posted by JayD
                          Freeze, I saw that you use the Brewers so my question is are stadiums with retractable roofs always open during franchise or are they closed when the weather is cold, hot, or raining?
                          It was confirmed in the other thread. The roofs, again, are always open. EnigmaNemesis also stated that he played a game where it was raining in Miller Park.
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                          • EnigmaNemesis
                            Animal Liberation
                            • Apr 2006
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                            #103
                            Originally posted by kt-od
                            It was confirmed in the other thread. The roofs, again, are always open. EnigmaNemesis also stated that he played a game where it was raining in Miller Park.
                            And it looked damn good raining there too
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                            • Jeffster
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 160

                              #104
                              Re: I spent a lot of time with The Show 11 and Russell at CES, impressions inside.

                              Originally posted by FreezeTime
                              Karros adds a lot of incite
                              So EK is inciting people, eh? That's nothing new.
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                              • jemens
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                                • Oct 2009
                                • 270

                                #105
                                Re: I spent a lot of time with The Show 11 and Russell at CES, impressions inside.

                                Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                                And it looked damn good raining there too
                                Originally posted by kt-od
                                It was confirmed in the other thread. The roofs, again, are always open. EnigmaNemesis also stated that he played a game where it was raining in Miller Park.
                                maybe rain looks good in Toronto and Milwaukee but seriously we have to admit SCEA implemented something halfway on this.

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