**All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

[cardsfan2222]

Re: **All Trades Discussion Thread** 2011 Edition

Heading towards the end of May, I'm starting to think of what I need to stay in first place. I don't have that many needs, but a few areas could use an upgrade. I could use another solid righty in the bullpen. I'm afraid to use Boggs as anything more than long relief, and I don't have a viable bullpen guy in the minors. I'd like someone who could give me 2 or 3 innings, but also be effective enough to pitch in close games. I may try to get Miguel Batista, although he's been one of the best relievers in the league so I may not be able to pry him away. I'm open to suggestions.

My bench is heavy on left handers, so I could use a good right handed bat for the bench. The always rebuilding Pirates have Berkman, so I may see what it would take to get him, and move Mather back to the bench. I have plenty of young starters in the minors, so I think I could get him.

Players I'm considering trading are Ludwick and Kotsay. Kotsay has been great for me, but as a 5th outfielder it's hard to find anything more than pinch hit roles for him. If I trade him I will probably call Josh Bell back up, giving me a switch hitter on the bench. If I end up with Berkman, I might trade Ludwick. He has 1 home run so far, and has not been effective at driving in runs behind Pujols. I just signed him to a 3 year deal so I'm not sure who or what to trade him for, unless I send him to Pittsburgh in a deal for Berkman.

[MarkVI]

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Dodgers offer me:

Dee Gordon (A pot SS)
Kenley Jansen (A pot RP)

for

Luke Scott (.288 15HR 55RBI through mid-June) to fill their hole in LF

Gordon is struggling in the minors, but I still think I might be getting too much in return. Might throw in a B pot pitcher (Bergesen or Michael Kirkman) or I may sub out Dee Gordon for someone else (since I have Manny Machado waiting in the wings at SS)

[Mike3207]

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I had a weird trade. I had 100% interest in a Orioles-Reds trade where they got SS C overall Paul Janish and C potential Chris Valaika for A prospect SS Manny Machodo. I had trades on Manual, so I don't know if they would have accepted it otherwise.After the trade, they DFA'd both! I later signed both players out of FA for the Orioles and released some D overall players. It just seems wrong for them not to get anything back for the trade.

[MarkVI]

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I had a weird trade. I had 100% interest in a Orioles-Reds trade where they got SS C overall Paul Janish and C potential Chris Valaika for A prospect SS Manny Machodo. I had trades on Manual, so I don't know if they would have accepted it otherwise.After the trade, they DFA'd both! I later signed both players out of FA for the Orioles and released some D overall players. It just seems wrong for them not to get anything back for the trade.

Man. I'd be very unhappy in real life haha. What a weird scenario. The logic is improved for sure, but things like this seem to come up too. I, too, did a trade where as soon as I made the trade, the person I sent out was DFA'd by that club.

[cardsleadtheway]

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Heading towards the end of May, I'm starting to think of what I need to stay in first place. I don't have that many needs, but a few areas could use an upgrade. I could use another solid righty in the bullpen. I'm afraid to use Boggs as anything more than long relief, and I don't have a viable bullpen guy in the minors. I'd like someone who could give me 2 or 3 innings, but also be effective enough to pitch in close games. I may try to get Miguel Batista, although he's been one of the best relievers in the league so I may not be able to pry him away. I'm open to suggestions.

My bench is heavy on left handers, so I could use a good right handed bat for the bench. The always rebuilding Pirates have Berkman, so I may see what it would take to get him, and move Mather back to the bench. I have plenty of young starters in the minors, so I think I could get him.

Players I'm considering trading are Ludwick and Kotsay. Kotsay has been great for me, but as a 5th outfielder it's hard to find anything more than pinch hit roles for him. If I trade him I will probably call Josh Bell back up, giving me a switch hitter on the bench. If I end up with Berkman, I might trade Ludwick. He has 1 home run so far, and has not been effective at driving in runs behind Pujols. I just signed him to a 3 year deal so I'm not sure who or what to trade him for, unless I send him to Pittsburgh in a deal for Berkman.

Henry Rodriguez is a lot like Motte in 09. He throws very hard, but can have location problems. Probably not what you are looking for in long relief, but he can help out a lot in the pen and is effective against both lefties and righties, as he has a decent 2 seam that reaches 97. He is really cheap for some reason; maybe because he is a little older than a prospect but not a seasoned vet. I don't know what your AAA system looks like, but the A's are stocked with a ton of A and B potential starters that would work really well for long relievers. Tyson Ross comes to mind.

I like the Berkman idea. As good as he is in real life, I think he is even better in the game. Or at least his stats would say he is. I am not sure if the Pirates would take Ludwick for him, as they would most likely want prospects if they are out of the race, but if they will then you get to kill two birds with one stone. If not, try to dump him off on a playoff push team. I did that with Church to the Reds and got a good and young pitching prospect out of it.

[cardsfan2222]

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Henry Rodriguez is a lot like Motte in 09. He throws very hard, but can have location problems. Probably not what you are looking for in long relief, but he can help out a lot in the pen and is effective against both lefties and righties, as he has a decent 2 seam that reaches 97. He is really cheap for some reason; maybe because he is a little older than a prospect but not a seasoned vet. I don't know what your AAA system looks like, but the A's are stocked with a ton of A and B potential starters that would work really well for long relievers. Tyson Ross comes to mind.

I like the Berkman idea. As good as he is in real life, I think he is even better in the game. Or at least his stats would say he is. I am not sure if the Pirates would take Ludwick for him, as they would most likely want prospects if they are out of the race, but if they will then you get to kill two birds with one stone. If not, try to dump him off on a playoff push team. I did that with Church to the Reds and got a good and young pitching prospect out of it.

I'll have to look into Rodriguez. I can get by without a long reliever if I have someone I trust to get outs. I have several A potential starters in the minors, but they're all D overall right now, and still at least a year away from being ready. Berkman was doing great in Pittsburgh the last I checked. I'm sure they could use some of the starting pitchers I have in AAA. I don't know how well he would do in the OF on the game though. I haven't checked to see if he has that as a secondary position.

[cardsleadtheway]

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I'll have to look into Rodriguez. I can get by without a long reliever if I have someone I trust to get outs. I have several A potential starters in the minors, but they're all D overall right now, and still at least a year away from being ready. Berkman was doing great in Pittsburgh the last I checked. I'm sure they could use some of the starting pitchers I have in AAA. I don't know how well he would do in the OF on the game though. I haven't checked to see if he has that as a secondary position.

I am pretty sure Berkman's secondary position is outfield. And in 10, you can play David Ortiz out there and not suffer that much, as long as you don't sim. The CPU will replace anyone without a secondary position every time. I would give HRod a serious look. He has done well for me, and I would have kept him, but I had to get something for Church. Getting a pitching prospect is exactly what I needed. Anderson has a $10 mil option I will most likely exercise and he and Gio will both be free agents the year after that. As will Halladay if he doesn't retire first, so I need to have someone lined up just in case.

Another guy I picked up for next to nothing was Matt Capps. I needed another closer for AAA, so I figured I would give him a $30K offer, and now he is a middle reliever in my bull pen for the second straight season. He has a great fastball and better than average change and slider, but is D potential so you might be able to get him for next to nothing. And finally, I picked up Jeremy Bonderman midseason off the free agent roll a couple seasons ago and he pitched really well, and was very cheap because he was an F potential. He could be your long reliever.

[ClarkWGrizwold]

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i'm a few weeks into my Mets chise and we suck so i'm looking to start trading players. I already traded Beltran and Fossum to the Padres for Venable, Poreda and another RP. Next to go is Krod and possibly Pelfrey any toughts

[Mike3207]

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I got a fairly rich haul from the A's for trading 3B Scott Rolen-SP Brandon McCarthy, LF Chris Carter, and SS Green, all A potential prospects. Promoted Todd Frazier from AAA and sent Francisco down to AAA. Moved Machado to 2B and Green to SS at AAA,and sent Fred Lewis to Single-A. On the A's side, Rolen is now their starting 3B and Kousmanoff on the bench. Rolen was hot at the time and Kousmanoff cold, so that may have been a factor.

[cardsleadtheway]

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I got a fairly rich haul from the A's for trading 3B Scott Rolen-SP Brandon McCarthy, LF Chris Carter, and SS Green, all A potential prospects. Promoted Todd Frazier from AAA and sent Francisco down to AAA. Moved Machado to 2B and Green to SS at AAA,and sent Fred Lewis to Single-A. On the A's side, Rolen is now their starting 3B and Kousmanoff on the bench. Rolen was hot at the time and Kousmanoff cold, so that may have been a factor.

I would hate to see this trade in real life, but I could see it happening. A's have not been able to fill that hole at third since Eric Chavez. They might leap at the chance to finally get someone of value there. I didn't think they would trade away CarGo, Haren, or Swisher, but they did so anything is possible. Keep me posted on how Carter does for you. I like to think that he will turn into the next Frank Thomas, at least on the game.

[cardsfan2222]

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Rodriguez is a rule 5 guy on the Rangers, who are in 3rd place but only .5 out of first. I may be able to pick him up closer to the deadline if they're still competing. The Pirates are currently .500, 4 games behind me, so they have no interest in trading Berkman. Hopefully they will reconsider when they start their annual free fall down the standings.

[slim14]

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Hey guys i am in mets franchise now 9-8 is my record but just lost jose jose jose for 2 months so i picked up guzman via freeagent... But looking to unload beltran.... Thinking about trading wit yankees for gardner n joba? What you think?

[bbking26]

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Hey guys i am in mets franchise now 9-8 is my record but just lost jose jose jose for 2 months so i picked up guzman via freeagent... But looking to unload beltran.... Thinking about trading wit yankees for gardner n joba? What you think?

I would do trade

[cardsleadtheway]

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Rodriguez is a rule 5 guy on the Rangers, who are in 3rd place but only .5 out of first. I may be able to pick him up closer to the deadline if they're still competing. The Pirates are currently .500, 4 games behind me, so they have no interest in trading Berkman. Hopefully they will reconsider when they start their annual free fall down the standings.

Really? I haven't seen anyone of value get drafted by rule 5 yet, unlike in 09. I like that there is an actual eligibility variable now. I think Wladimir Balentien is the best pick I have seen so far. I figure this year's rule 5 will be a much better class since every prospect that I started the game with will now be eligible.

[jeremym480]

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Gardner is certainly too expensive and he is now on the Royals. Plus he still wears a Yankee hat and I don't want any of those guys on my team lol.

So I did some fishing and here is what I have come up with. Unless specified, all players are making less than a million:

RF Willie Harris - 35 years old on the Royals
LF Wilkin Ramirez - 28 Tigers
CF Nyjer Morgan - 33 Indians, making $1.8mil
CF Xavier Paul - 29 White Sox, making $1.1 mil
RF Fernando Perez - 30 Rays
RF Willy Tavaris - 32 Brewers making $2.5 mil
LF Michael Saunders - 27 Astros
LF Tyler Colvin - 28 Cubs
CF Cameron Maybin - 26 Marlins $1.8 mil
CF Rajai Davis - 33 Marlins
LF Brandon Jones - 30 Pirates
LF Scott Podsednick - 37-38? Free Agent wants 2 year at about $800K per

So I am looking at this deal right now:
A's get Brandon Jones and C Jason Kendall, Pirates get SP Clayton Richard and 1B Eric Hosmer

The Pirates and Royals are the only rebuilding teams. I need a speedy outfielder with good defense and a backup catcher that could start if I can't re-sign Suzuki. Pirates could use pitching and a good 1B Prospect. I had hopes of Hosmer taking over 1B for Pena, but that could be awhile, plus I have Dunn and Carter that can fill the role if Pena retires. With Hosmer, I can pretty much get any player on that list, but I want to keep the salary under a mil considering the role. Jones is not quite young, but he could fill in for Quentin in another year if I don't re-sign Quentin. And then there is Podsednick, which won't cost me anything other than DFAing someone to make room. What do you think?

I know I'm too late on this.. I haven't been playing too much since the tornadoes last week and haven't be keeping up with this thread as closely. Anyway, I probably would have just snatched up Podsednick since you basically just need a role player and he wouldn't cost you that much. However, the deal that you took wasn't bad either. Good luck!

Moving Harper to left seems to have helped. The Nationals have taken him off the trade block in my franchise half way through May so so far so good.

I'm going to have to try that. I'm playing with 30 team control on and every time I see Harper on the block, I take him off. They've also offered him to me in a trade before. Of course, I declined. I'd feel dirty ripping them off like that. Thanks for the tip though. I'll give it a try and report back.

Hey guys i am in mets franchise now 9-8 is my record but just lost jose jose jose for 2 months so i picked up guzman via freeagent... But looking to unload beltran.... Thinking about trading wit yankees for gardner n joba? What you think?

For the game this probably isn't a bad trade. I don't know about real life though :wink: