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  • bigdaddykraven
    Rookie
    • Jun 2007
    • 300

    #46
    Re: Franchise Problem is Addressed

    Originally posted by BwanaKuu
    Does the 2013 bug appear in Season mode as well?
    You mean single season mode? No the point is that it happens 3 years into the Franchise. Season mode is untouched.

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    • BwanaKuu
      Rookie
      • Dec 2010
      • 236

      #47
      Re: Franchise Problem is Addressed

      Originally posted by bigdaddykraven
      You mean single season mode? No the point is that it happens 3 years into the Franchise. Season mode is untouched.
      I thought season mode was more than one season? That was always my impression at least... Basically Franchise with choices for how many games and none of the extras like pricing/building up the stadium/etc.
      What would Doc do?

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      • EnigmaNemesis
        Animal Liberation
        • Apr 2006
        • 12216

        #48
        Originally posted by BwanaKuu
        I thought season mode was more than one season? That was always my impression at least... Basically Franchise with choices for how many games and none of the extras like pricing/building up the stadium/etc.
        It is more than one season. Minus all the extras in franchise and also no minor league teams. Just a 40 man.
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        • bigdaddykraven
          Rookie
          • Jun 2007
          • 300

          #49
          Re: Franchise Problem is Addressed

          Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
          It is more than one season. Minus all the extras in franchise and also no minor league teams. Just a 40 man.
          Ah, I've never bothered with it because franchise does what I want. Just heard someone say season mode was one year once. Thanks for correcting me.

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          • BwanaKuu
            Rookie
            • Dec 2010
            • 236

            #50
            Re: Franchise Problem is Addressed

            Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
            It is more than one season. Minus all the extras in franchise and also no minor league teams. Just a 40 man.
            Hmmm I think I'll just go with season mode then. I guess I can sim for 5 years and see if the bug appears. I always found that I just set the franchise extras to the default and leave them.
            What would Doc do?

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            • HustlinOwl
              All Star
              • Mar 2004
              • 9713

              #51
              Re: Franchise Problem is Addressed

              about to do some testing, without install 1.08

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              • HustlinOwl
                All Star
                • Mar 2004
                • 9713

                #52
                Re: Franchise Problem is Addressed

                still an issue without 1.08

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                • noe1else
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 55

                  #53
                  Re: Franchise Problem is Addressed

                  Originally posted by CuseGirl
                  I know that this is a FRANCHISE ISSUE, has anyone seen the effects in RTTS?
                  It affects RTTS mode even more so becuase you can't turn off training..

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                  • Two Seamer
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 201

                    #54
                    Re: Franchise Problem is Addressed

                    Yeah it really is kind of a misnomer to call it a/the franchise issue. One of the game's biggest selling points this year was RTTS mode, which suffers from the same problem.

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                    • BwanaKuu
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 236

                      #55
                      Re: Franchise Problem is Addressed

                      Originally posted by Two Seamer
                      Yeah it really is kind of a misnomer to call it a/the franchise issue. One of the game's biggest selling points this year was RTTS mode, which suffers from the same problem.
                      Has this been confirmed through tests? I'm simming through 6 years in RTTS right now but I'd prefer not to if it's been tested before :P

                      This is a bit OT but I'm relatively new to sports games. Are these sort of issues prevalent in franchise modes? Something that eventually "breaks" the franchise? I remember reading that it happens in NCAA football with certain teams just dominating because they get all the A prospects even if they don't need them. Some big name teams would have 3 A QB's, etc.
                      Last edited by BwanaKuu; 03-13-2011, 06:23 PM.
                      What would Doc do?

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                      • BwanaKuu
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 236

                        #56
                        Re: Franchise Problem is Addressed

                        Ok I'm starting to think that this issue may never be fixed because it's just not possible. The reason being that A prospects become A players. Which doesn't happen in real life. Some do but a lot fade away into obscurity. Another thing is that they often keep older players around because of chemistry/leadership/teaching to the younger guys or just plan old loyalty. Those things don't exist in a video game since the CPU acts "rationally." There's no subjectivety in video game AI. Plus it's all based on stats there's not that whole shock of going to The Show and how they might not be able to handle all the pressure.

                        I guess one fix would be to just limit the number of A prospects which is I believe what they did last year to delay the problem. Maybe they need to limit it more? Or completely redo the potential system. Maybe have a growth stat as well? Some people like Buster Posey or Strasburg can come up as young guys and dominate but how many of those are there every year? And at times you get players who are very late bloomers. Our former Jayson Werth is an example. He was ready to quit MLB alltogether then he joined the Phils as a utility player, fought with Jenkins for the everyday job and then got it. Now he's making $127 million. In MLB 11 he would not have been an A prospect.

                        I think there may just be too many intangibles that can't be simulated and we may never see this issue fixed only delayed...

                        BTW this is just me thinking I really know very little but just thinking of possible reasons. If I'm wrong anywhere I'd enjoy the correction.
                        What would Doc do?

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                        • Bat
                          what
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 1630

                          #57
                          Re: Franchise Problem is Addressed

                          How do players progress with training off? For example guys with A potential like Heyward, Stanton, Upton or first round picks?

                          Thanks
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                          • Gagnon39
                            Windy City Sports Fan
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 8544

                            #58
                            Re: Franchise Problem is Addressed

                            Isn't this all fixed by controlling all 30 teams? I'm just going to sign free agent start to teams that I think would do it. I know its not the best solution but its better than letting them sit in free agency forever.
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                            • BwanaKuu
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 236

                              #59
                              Re: Franchise Problem is Addressed

                              Originally posted by Gagnon39
                              Isn't this all fixed by controlling all 30 teams? I'm just going to sign free agent start to teams that I think would do it. I know its not the best solution but its better than letting them sit in free agency forever.
                              It sort of is but it still needs to be fixed with a patch. Does anyone know how many A/B potential players are "injected" into the game every season? Like how many A potential players are there in the draft? I'm thinking that maybe that roster change last year helped delay it but the subsequent draft groups had too many A potential players? Thus the same thing was happening just a year or two later...
                              What would Doc do?

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                              • Gagnon39
                                Windy City Sports Fan
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 8544

                                #60
                                Re: Franchise Problem is Addressed

                                Originally posted by BwanaKuu
                                It sort of is but it still needs to be fixed with a patch. Does anyone know how many A/B potential players are "injected" into the game every season? Like how many A potential players are there in the draft? I'm thinking that maybe that roster change last year helped delay it but the subsequent draft groups had too many A potential players? Thus the same thing was happening just a year or two later...
                                What do you mean sort of? Are there still issues? I figured if I simply signed the big-name players with the big-name teams like it usually happens I would be good to go. Is this not the case?
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