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    Fear The Spear
    • Apr 2011
    • 10346

    #4711
    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by ehamme08
    I don't know! I threw that trade offer at them thinking I'd have to lower my expectations, but they were in favor of it. Montgomery is one of my top pitching prospects, and Butler and Francouer are highly rated (I should note Francouer is hitting .310, just no power).

    Curious if others had a hard time getting Bautista or if they've seen a difference in a team being "in the hunt" or out of it.
    realistically speaking, u'd have to give up 2 additional A POT prospects+ Montgomery (if he's even an A) to pry Bautista away
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    • AC
      Win the East
      • Sep 2010
      • 14951

      #4712
      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by ehamme08
      I'm the Kansas City Royals and i'm currently 2 games out of 1st (32-30) and I have NO power in my lineup. Billy Butler and Jeff Francouer have a combined 5 home runs through 60 games...seriously. Mous and Hosmer are carrying the load with 24 between them, but I need a right handed power bat.

      I signed Jorge Soler to start the season (he was a FA) EDIT: And Wil Myers isn't performing well enough to call him up yet

      Is this trade fair:

      Butler
      Francouer
      M. Mongomery (A)

      for

      Bautista
      Romero
      Not even close. Seriously, this is about as far away you can get from a trade.

      Originally posted by ehamme08
      Take Romero out and are we getting closer? Jays are 20 games out of 1st (worst record in the AL) so i'm looking at it from that perspective. They accepted the deal (or it showed they were in favor of it) but it felt to me like it was too one sided in my favor...
      Yeah, just a little bit one sided. Still not close, sorry.

      Originally posted by ehamme08
      I don't know! I threw that trade offer at them thinking I'd have to lower my expectations, but they were in favor of it. Montgomery is one of my top pitching prospects, and Butler and Francouer are highly rated (I should note Francouer is hitting .310, just no power).

      Curious if others had a hard time getting Bautista or if they've seen a difference in a team being "in the hunt" or out of it.
      If you don't know why they'd accept it, why are you doing it? I'm sorry, but Bautista isn't getting traded.
      "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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      • 37
        Fear The Spear
        • Apr 2011
        • 10346

        #4713
        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        pretty sure he wasn't going for realism...just a failed attempt at fairness....and how did i KNOW u was gunna pop up Milan? lol
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        • billyboy316
          Pro
          • Apr 2009
          • 710

          #4714
          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by ACMilan1999
          Both are extremely unrealistic, Cubs get ripped off in both.

          Really? Well I guess it's better that I am getting screwed as the Cubs instead of screwing the computer. Ok so what about this trade?

          Castro and Samardzija/ Garza for Storen and J. Zimmermann?

          I have also been thinking about Zimmermann and Harper for Castro, Samardzija and Brett Jackson.

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          • AC
            Win the East
            • Sep 2010
            • 14951

            #4715
            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
            pretty sure he wasn't going for realism...just a failed attempt at fairness....and how did i KNOW u was gunna pop up Milan? lol
            Because I am always here. Lurking in the darkness, the depths of OS. Waiting, watching. And I will never leave.

            You know, until Scott's rosters come out.

            Yeah, it wasn't fair, either. Has there ever been an instance of someone fairly trading for two legitimate A rated MLBers? Like, trading for.... Trying to think of two A's on the Athletics.... Cespedes and... Erm..... Wow, that kinda sucks.
            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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            • 37
              Fear The Spear
              • Apr 2011
              • 10346

              #4716
              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by ACMilan1999
              Because I am always here. Lurking in the darkness, the depths of OS. Waiting, watching. And I will never leave.

              You know, until Scott's rosters come out.

              Yeah, it wasn't fair, either. Has there ever been an instance of someone fairly trading for two legitimate A rated MLBers? Like, trading for.... Trying to think of two A's on the Athletics.... Cespedes and... Erm..... Wow, that kinda sucks.
              nice low blow Milan....i been good towards your guys Cecil and Mathis lately
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              • AC
                Win the East
                • Sep 2010
                • 14951

                #4717
                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by billyboy316
                Really? Well I guess it's better that I am getting screwed as the Cubs instead of screwing the computer. Ok so what about this trade?

                Castro and Samardzija/ Garza for Storen and J. Zimmermann?

                I have also been thinking about Zimmermann and Harper for Castro, Samardzija and Brett Jackson.
                Don't trade Jackson, man. Him, Rizzo, and Baez are keepers. I'm a big Cubbies fan (#2 team), and they need to keep them.

                Closers aren't worth much, so that's basically Castro and Samar-not even gonna/Garza for Zimmerman.

                Why do you want to trade Castro?
                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                • billyboy316
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 710

                  #4718
                  Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                  Don't trade Jackson, man. Him, Rizzo, and Baez are keepers. I'm a big Cubbies fan (#2 team), and they need to keep them.

                  Closers aren't worth much, so that's basically Castro and Samar-not even gonna/Garza for Zimmerman.

                  Why do you want to trade Castro?
                  I feel closers and relievers are undervalued especially in this game. I can't tell you how many times I have had the lead and my crappy closer has blown the save. That is why I was wanting a stud closer like Storen.

                  I want to trade Castro because he isn't producing like he has in real life (hitting about .246 late July). I love him as a player in real life just not in this game.

                  I ended up traded Castro, Jackson, and Garza for Harper and J. Zimmermann.

                  I know not realistic but I don't think its an unfair trade. Nationals give up 2 A's for 2 A's and a B.

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                  • bugle987
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1289

                    #4719
                    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by billyboy316
                    I feel closers and relievers are undervalued especially in this game. I can't tell you how many times I have had the lead and my crappy closer has blown the save. That is why I was wanting a stud closer like Storen.

                    I want to trade Castro because he isn't producing like he has in real life (hitting about .246 late July). I love him as a player in real life just not in this game.

                    I ended up traded Castro, Jackson, and Garza for Harper and J. Zimmermann.

                    I know not realistic but I don't think its an unfair trade. Nationals give up 2 A's for 2 A's and a B.
                    Trade is pretty fair per say but I don't see the Nationals needing SS

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                    • AC
                      Win the East
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 14951

                      #4720
                      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by billyboy316
                      I feel closers and relievers are undervalued especially in this game. I can't tell you how many times I have had the lead and my crappy closer has blown the save. That is why I was wanting a stud closer like Storen.

                      I want to trade Castro because he isn't producing like he has in real life (hitting about .246 late July). I love him as a player in real life just not in this game.

                      I ended up traded Castro, Jackson, and Garza for Harper and J. Zimmermann.

                      I know not realistic but I don't think its an unfair trade. Nationals give up 2 A's for 2 A's and a B.
                      Actually, any trade for Harper is pretty unfair.... ESPECIALLY when one of those players isn't producing, and the other is still in AAA.

                      There are SO MANY WAYS to prove that closers are useless.

                      NFG, we knew it was only a matter of time until someone traded for Harper. Thoughts?
                      "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                      • 37
                        Fear The Spear
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10346

                        #4721
                        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                        Actually, any trade for Harper is pretty unfair.... ESPECIALLY when one of those players isn't producing, and the other is still in AAA.

                        There are SO MANY WAYS to prove that closers are useless.

                        NFG, we knew it was only a matter of time until someone traded for Harper. Thoughts?
                        of course we knew somebody was gunna trade for Harper....wont be the last to do so either....i dont like it either....especially considering the Nats have a glaring hole in CF (and an overpaid and overrated RF)and where would Castro play on the Nats?....but to each their own
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                        • billyboy316
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 710

                          #4722
                          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                          Actually, any trade for Harper is pretty unfair.... ESPECIALLY when one of those players isn't producing, and the other is still in AAA.

                          There are SO MANY WAYS to prove that closers are useless.

                          NFG, we knew it was only a matter of time until someone traded for Harper. Thoughts?
                          Ok let me paint a clearer picture for you guys. At the time of the trade Castro was hitting the .246. Jackson was tearing it up in AAA hitting over .320 with 16 home runs. Garza was pitching pretty well with a 3-4 record and a sub 3.00 ERA.

                          Harper was hitting around a .230 with only 10 home runs and Zimmermann was 2-6 with a low 4.00 ERA.

                          Castro could play 2nd and Jackson will take over CF. Like I said not realistic (not going for complete realism) but it's not an unfair trade.

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                          • AC
                            Win the East
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 14951

                            #4723
                            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by billyboy316
                            Ok let me paint a clearer picture for you guys. At the time of the trade Castro was hitting the .246. Jackson was tearing it up in AAA hitting over .320 with 16 home runs. Garza was pitching pretty well with a 3-4 record and a sub 3.00 ERA.

                            Harper was hitting around a .230 with only 10 home runs and Zimmermann was 2-6 with a low 4.00 ERA.

                            Castro could play 2nd and Jackson will take over CF. Like I said not realistic (not going for complete realism) but it's not an unfair trade.
                            It's somewhat fair. Not amazing though. By the way, to make this more fair, if you're 30-team controlling it (which I really hope you are), go change Castro's position to 2B.
                            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                            • sink4ever
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 1153

                              #4724
                              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Just shy of the All-Star break, Pirates are out of it of course and I'm looking to build for future seasons. Was thinking about taking this into the Arbitration Panel to see what the Rockies or Orioles reps think.

                              Looking to maybe package Erik Bedard (8-6, 106 IP, 3.22 ERA, 105 H, 102 K, 24 BB) and Casey McGehee (.286, 10 2B, 3 3B, 8 HR in 238 AB) to a contender. Would I be entirely out of line in looking for a low- to mid-B? Would a selection of C's be more fair? Thanks!

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                              • AC
                                Win the East
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 14951

                                #4725
                                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by sink4ever
                                Just shy of the All-Star break, Pirates are out of it of course and I'm looking to build for future seasons. Was thinking about taking this into the Arbitration Panel to see what the Rockies or Orioles reps think.

                                Looking to maybe package Erik Bedard (8-6, 106 IP, 3.22 ERA, 105 H, 102 K, 24 BB) and Casey McGehee (.286, 10 2B, 3 3B, 8 HR in 238 AB) to a contender. Would I be entirely out of line in looking for a low- to mid-B? Would a selection of C's be more fair? Thanks!
                                One low B, or two C's would be just fine.
                                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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