2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[G3no_11]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Going strictly by numbers, I agree with Totte as well.

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

For the record, I'm at Game 162 of 2013... not like he's a youngin anymore.

[G3no_11]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I don't have a problem with either of the trade suggestions, but you know that he will develop into an ace/one of the best pitchers in the league. At the end of 2013 that makes him 26? Pitchers don't generally hit their peak until late 20's early 30's wouldn't you say?

[Jtharr86]

The key is if the Angels are in contention, which I don't think he said.

No the Angels are 13.5 games back of the wild card. I really don't want to trade Shark he's been my 2nd best pitcher and is leading the team in K's. I'm mostly looking for power in my lineup. Rizzo is the only one giving me anything, Soriano started on fire and hasn't hit a homerun in 20+ games.

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[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I don't have a problem with either of the trade suggestions, but you know that he will develop into an ace/one of the best pitchers in the league. At the end of 2013 that makes him 26? Pitchers don't generally hit their peak until late 20's early 30's wouldn't you say?

Yeah but this is an interesting case... Is there a precedent for it?

[G3no_11]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Yeah but this is an interesting case... Is there a precedent for it?

One that I thought of:

Zach Greinke in '05?

5-17, 5.80 ERA, .309 AVG, 1.56 WHIP

Greinke did play for the Royals though, and I believe he was only 22 at this time. I thought it was a somewhat similar situation though.

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

No, that's like Henderson Alvarez with the Jays this year... they're still young enough to be prospects. Hellickson is 4 years older than that.

Ricky Romero is a comparable, actually! And I doubt he has much value right now.

[G3no_11]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

No, that's like Henderson Alvarez with the Jays this year... they're still young enough to be prospects. Hellickson is 4 years older than that.

Yea, the age is a pretty big difference.. The reason I thought it was similar is because that was Greinke's 2nd year in the bigs. I think 2013 would be Hellickson's 3rd.
The Rays would probably have more of a "win now" attitude than the Royals (to say the least).

Isn't Romero 3 years older than Hellickson? Romero does have similar stats to the examples though.

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

2 years, but they'd been in the MLB similar amounts of service time, 3-4 years. I think it's a solid comp.

[G3no_11]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Yea it's a solid comparison. I was looking for more of a past example of someone who turned out to very good. Romero could turn out to be very good but you never know.
One thing we do know is Hellickson is going to be a premier SP in a couple of years (in the game).

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Not in MY game.

I think two mid-B's are fine.

[Totte]

I think two mid-B's are fine.

That'll do as long as you fill a need in the Rays system like you always do when trading. I'm thinking a catcher and 2B/OF coming back in the deal. What did you have in mind?

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

That'll do as long as you fill a need in the Rays system like you always do when trading. I'm thinking a catcher and 2B/OF coming back in the deal. What did you have in mind?

I'm not sure... I'm going to see what my draft pick is in terms of potential. Lawrence Marcus? He's a power hitting OF, just what the Rays need, and he's a B, just not sure what kind of B.

[nowitsourtime]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

What was Hellickson like the year before? If he was solid, I doubt the Rays would trade him after one bad year when his value is at its lowest.

If he was terrible the year before as well, I would say Mid B, low B.

I also have a question involving the Rays as well. I'm in the year 2015. Would it be realistic at all for the Rays to trade David Price? They are last in the AL East midway through June. He's in his 3rd year of a 6 year, roughly 70 million dollar deal.

Also, their farm system is bone dry. They have no A's and their only two B's are Tim Beckham and Chris Archer.

If it would be realistic for Price to be traded, what would the price be? I'm thinking at least an A and two Bs

[G3no_11]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

What have Price's stats been lookin like? I would say yes to them trading him if they are dead last.