2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I guess... but why would the Blue Jays do that? Trade a very good player (ace?) for a struggling/over-paid pitcher? Verlander still has a lot of upside at age 30 and with him struggling the Tigers could sign him for a decent price next off-season.
It's a do-able trade but I don't see why it would happen. I think it would be more realistic if you waited until early-mid season to make the trade instead of the Tigers giving up on a former MVP that's only 30-31 years old... just my opinion.

31 on opening day.

We'd do it as taking a chance on someone's potential, like we love to do, all the freaking time.

[Totte]

31 on opening day.

We'd do it as taking a chance on someone's potential, like we love to do, all the freaking time.

31 years old and a lot of mileage on his arm by that point. Agree that Dombrowski would be selling for that package.

And yes, the Crow deal seems to be working out nicely as well. They do love them some Crow out there in Kansas though so make sure it's quality that fits a need going back in return

[G3no_11]

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31 on opening day.

We'd do it as taking a chance on someone's potential, like we love to do, all the freaking time.

31's right in his prime. I feel like the Tigers would give Verlander a shot for the first half of the season... he could break out and have another MVP season and with them in contention anyway there's no reason to force a trade to get rid of someone that's shown signs of being the best in the league.
It's a fair trade... I just don't see the Tigers doing that. They could wait for a few months into the season and see if he turns things around for a possible World Series run, or to get more value out of him.
Even if Verlander had a poor season, I would bet they would still re-sign him just because they could do it for a good price.

Bottom line for me is: they are trading a former MVP, in his prime, at his lowest value... it just doesn't seem like a move they would pull in the off-season.

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

31 years old and a lot of mileage on his arm by that point. Agree that Dombrowski would be selling for that package.

And yes, the Crow deal seems to be working out nicely as well. They do love them some Crow out there in Kansas though so make sure it's quality that fits a need going back in return

I have a soft spot for KC, I'll give 'em something nice.

31's right in his prime. I feel like the Tigers would give Verlander a shot for the first half of the season... he could break out and have another MVP season and with them in contention anyway there's no reason to force a trade to get rid of someone that's shown signs of being the best in the league.
It's a fair trade... I just don't see the Tigers doing that. They could wait for a few months into the season and see if he turns things around for a possible World Series run, or to get more value out of him.
Even if Verlander had a poor season, I would bet they would still re-sign him just because they could do it for a good price.

Bottom line for me is: they are trading a former MVP, in his prime, at his lowest value... it just doesn't seem like a move they would pull in the off-season.

Colby Rasmus also showed signs of being the best in the league... point is he had one good season. He'd be an FA after the year and they'd want to max his value.

The former MVP thing is EXTREMELY SUBJECTIVE (Bitter about JB not winning ).

[survo]

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I'm new to this whole thing. I just created my account and I've been a fan of the rosters for the whole season. I'm courious to as you discuss realistic or fair? I go towards more fare and I've heard rumors the Rangers are trying to get Felix Hernandez.

Felix Hernandez
for
Andrus/ Profar
Moreland
2 mid level prospects.

What all do you think I would have to include to make this fair?

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I'm new to this whole thing. I just created my account and I've been a fan of the rosters for the whole season. I'm courious to as you discuss realistic or fair? I go towards more fare and I've heard rumors the Rangers are trying to get Felix Hernandez.

Felix Hernandez
for
Andrus/ Profar
Moreland
2 mid level prospects.

What all do you think I would have to include to make this fair?

Felix Hernandez will not be traded. Jack Z has literally said, on quote, "I may have to carry around a tape recorder that will play, 'Felix Hernandez isn't available.'"

If you want to be unrealistic, then....

Olt, Andrus, A SP prospect, Hamilton, Holland

[CameRoN0407]

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Felix Hernandez will not be traded. Jack Z has literally said, on quote, "I may have to carry around a tape recorder that will play, 'Felix Hernandez isn't available.'"

If you want to be unrealistic, then....

Olt, Andrus, A SP prospect, Hamilton, Holland

Sad, what a waste of talent...

[fanofikedavis]

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What do you guys feel is a fair deal for Dickey.

In my franchise, Texas has really had some bad starting pitching, so I signed Dickey to a deal in the off season (So it's like his option year IRL) and I'm between these two deals.

Texas Gets:

R.A Dickey

Mets Receive:

Mike Olt
Martin Perez

OR--------------------------------------------------------

Texas Receives:

R.A Dickey
Reese Havens

Mets Receive:

Martin Perez
Elvis Andrus

I wanted to add Havens to the second deal because I feel Andrus has more trade value in that he's had major league success and is still developing. Havens has had a lot of injury problems but could still be a solid player, if he ever makes it. I also want Andrus because a middle infield of Ruben Tejada/Elvis Andrus could be very productive for my Mets.

I retained Wright, so I feel that Mike Olt wouldn't be as valuable in that he'd have to play the outfield, which obviously isn't his natural position, but he could still be very good wiht the bat.

Dickey is making 3 years, 31 million by the way. His stats in my franchise were:

18-7, 2.88 ERA, 212 K's, 1.079 WHIP

[AC]

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Texas won't trade Olt, Andrus, or Profar. You *could* go for an A prospect (straight up), but not more than 1 A and 1 C.

[mpbaseball22]

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Texas won't trade Olt, Andrus, or Profar. You *could* go for an A prospect (straight up), but not more than 1 A and 1 C.

Texas wont trade Profar, but I could see them trading Olt and Andrus pretty easily

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Texas wont trade Profar, but I could see them trading Olt and Andrus pretty easily

They weren't even willing to trade Olt for Dempster, and Texas has actually tried to acquire Andrelton Simmonds and flip him for Justin Upton rather than trade Andrus.

[mpbaseball22]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

They weren't even willing to trade Olt for Dempster, and Texas has actually tried to acquire Andrelton Simmonds and flip him for Justin Upton rather than trade Andrus.

Where'd you hear that? I heard they were actually considering trading Andrus because of there IF being too crowded. And then I heard they were going to move Kinsler to OF. I really wouldn't say Olt and Andrus are untradeable, just really hard to get

[Scott]

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Where'd you hear that? I heard they were actually considering trading Andrus because of there IF being too crowded. And then I heard they were going to move Kinsler to OF. I really wouldn't say Olt and Andrus are untradeable, just really hard to get

MLBTradeRumors.

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Where'd you hear that? I heard they were actually considering trading Andrus because of there IF being too crowded. And then I heard they were going to move Kinsler to OF. I really wouldn't say Olt and Andrus are untradeable, just really hard to get

If they won't trade Andrus/Profar for UPTON, they're not trading him for Dickey.

Loath is a pretty strong word.

This is old but pretty clear.

[AC]

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MLBTradeRumors.

I'd be listening to the resident Rangers fan of OS on this.